DMX Breaks Down When His Son Checks Him! + Iyanla: Fix My Life Starring DMX (Full)

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lol at x telling his son lets go pick up some girls from the mall :dead:

i know he was trying to test his son if he was a homo at that moment, i'll probs do the same with my son :myman:
 

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That's the only thing that does work. If you check any addiction program, the most important thing for an addict is to have a good support system. People that are not only there to catch them when they slip, but also there to hold them accountable for their actions. You leave an addict to his own vices he will continue to be an addict.

And at the second bolded why not? He didn't give his kid an ultimatum in order to earn his love, so why is it ok for his kid to do it to him?

It was actually his son and ole girl with the "sneak bully move" if he is really working on himself like he says he is, then it's all kinds of sheisty for them to trick him and corner him like this and get him all emotional opening up his feelings just to give him an ultimatum.

yeah but even your advice isnt unconditional love, you yourself are saying the person has to agree to seek treatment

its not ok for X to ask for unconditional love because X has caused the son harm by his actions, the son has not harmed X, the son is the victim, a victimizer doesnt have the right to demand unconditional love, the only thing X has the right to ask for is for forgiveness

and yeah i agree it was bit sneaky what the son did and i agree that if the lady hadnt been there, the son would have broken down and given x "unconditional love", but so what? X is the drug use that has harmed his own family, he deserves to get bullied
 

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have you EVER been to a therapist before? :snoop: you obviously haven't.

a therapist job is to help you help yourself because you don't know how. not all the time a therapist is going to be right BUT i see what she was getting at. dmx doesn't want to HELP himself. he knows what he has to do BUT he doesn't want to. it's easy for him to give up and blame. i can relate to x on having a mental issue. you have to learn how to live with it as fukked up as it is. at the end of the day, it's HIS responsibility to take care of himself and it's NOBODY's responsibility to do that. stop pushing this stupid idea on him giving up on himself being the fault of the people around him and the therapist. that's why his ass is in the situation that he is in right now. he is rejecting help and is like "i don't give a fukk. this is who i am." and he knows that it's not which is why his ass is running on shows begging for help.
Again, you must have missed the part with him talking quoting the drugs and trying to do better. Not once did he act like the drugs weren't a problem or that he wants to keep taking them. He very clearly has some deep rooted issues that go beyond drugs.

I swear you are just seeing what you want to see. In both posts you attributed things to me I didn't say, and you attributed things to him he didn't say. Why don't you try to concentrate on the information that's presented to you, instead of responding to your own thoughts? Where did he say "I don't give a fukk, this is who I am" and where did I blame the therapist or his kid for his problems?

it's hard to take responsibility and it's even harder when you have serious issues such as drug addiction and mental illness BUT @ the end of the day, nobody but HIM is suffering. what's sad is that people such as yourself don't understand that this persona that he's running with dark man x is also killing him.
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It is not a persona. That is who that man is. He has issues and his son knows it. If he wanted to help him he would, but his son seems more concerned with showcasing his guitar skills and getting some sympathy for his (rough) 2 parent rich childhood.
 

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And what is that reason?

DMX is in need of some help. If he can't get that from his own son then who does he turn to?

Wat reasons? :mindblown:

X is a lifelong crackhead with over 50 arrests. X is/was emotionally abusive to his family and has consistently chosen drugs, women and bullshyt over his family. At some point people are like "fucc it" Do u think that his son has tried to be there for his pops, only to be disapointed over & over
 

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Sad shyt right here. And smh at some of yall trying to blame his son for this. Dude is 20 something years old, we have no idea the shyt that hes seen or the amount of effort hes put in to having a healthy relationship with his father. It gets to a point where u get tired of trying especially when u realize ur own father chooses drugs over a relationship with u. U cant love a crackhead unconditionally until they commit to getting help. X is too busy trying to rationalize why drug addiction doesnt affect parenting ability. U can tell dude has had alot of enablers in his life.

I hope dude gets it together. Its painful to watch a brother get dismissed by his own father for drugs. His son is right, X needs to admit and except his wrong doings instead of trying to rationlize it.
 

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yeah but even your advice isnt unconditional love, you yourself are saying the person has to agree to seek treatment
I said nothing about agreeing to seek treatment. I said the son should have agreed to help him in any way he can. Now internally the sons goal could be to get him in rehab. But you don't tell an addict that you won't be there for them unless they sign up for rehab.

its not ok for X to ask for unconditional love because X has caused the son harm by his actions, the son has not harmed X, the son is the victim, a victimizer doesnt have the right to demand unconditional love, the only thing X has the right to ask for is for forgiveness
I disagree, not when it comes to family. His son could have hurt him growing up, would it be cool for X to tell him. "Nah you hurt me, so we can only have a realationship if you do___________" that's not how families are supposed to work. Or at least not the way I was raised.

and yeah i agree it was bit sneaky what the son did and i agree that if the lady hadnt been there, the son would have broken down and given x "unconditional love", but so what? X is the drug use that has harmed his own family, he deserves to get bullied
2 wrongs don't make a right. He's made mistakes, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be mislead and exploited. And I think this is more a case of his son being confused and manipulated then him wanting to harm his dad. The way she was in his ear with the cameras rolling, you know she coached him beforehand.
 

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Wat reasons? :mindblown:

X is a lifelong crackhead with over 50 arrests. X is/was emotionally abusive to his family and has consistently chosen drugs, women and bullshyt over his family. At some point people are like "fucc it" Do u think that his son has tried to be there for his pops, only to be disapointed over & over

You or I don't know this to be true. It seems like their problems came about when he fell out with the wife. If you pay attention to the conversation. When X said "what about those fourteen years when I cared for you nonstop" his son had nothing to say about that because it was true. Also when he was saying "I never spoke to you that way" the son also agreed. His family is/was well taken care of so it's not fair to say he "chose bullshyt over his family" He is a very flawed man, but as he said he tried his best. And his son should get over that childish "you hurt me" shyt and actually try to help his dad. Dude seems smart, and has a decent life and opportunities he should applaud his dad for that much. If he had some stuff to get off his chest fine, but this was the total wrong way to do it. My dad did some fukked up shyt growing up too, but I could never do him like they did X on this show.
 

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if yall cant see that iyanla was the catalyst in blowing this chit out of proportion, then i dont know what to tell you.

you cant be mad at dmx for reacting the way he did.

this was a str8 up smear-piece.
 

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I said nothing about agreeing to seek treatment. I said the son should have agreed to help him in any way he can. Now internally the sons goal could be to get him in rehab. But you don't tell an addict that you won't be there for them unless they sign up for rehab.

i dont see why you cant tell an addict that, and i dont know where you are getting that information that unconditional love is what works, do you have link or source for that assertion?

I disagree, not when it comes to family. His son could have hurt him growing up, would it be cool for X to tell him. "Nah you hurt me, so we can only have a realationship if you do___________" that's not how families are supposed to work. Or at least not the way I was raised.

well we agree to disagree, but i dont even think its about that, as a human being, you have the right to remove negativity from your life and he exercised that right and that is the end of that

2 wrongs don't make a right. He's made mistakes, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be mislead and exploited. And I think this is more a case of his son being confused and manipulated then him wanting to harm his dad. The way she was in his ear with the cameras rolling, you know she coached him beforehand.

well you asked me why X doesn't have the right to demand unconditional love and i answered the question, once you have harmed someone you can only ask for forgiveness and the victim has the right to make conditions, that is really a personal decision that the victim has to make

i will respect whatever decision the victim makes either way

and like i said i agree the son would have done it differently without the lady, he probably would have hugged it out at the end, but it was his decision to bring in the lady to help him

but i think the son did the right thing and it was his right, its the same situation with absent fathers that try to come back for example, its up to the victim to decide and the world to respect the decision
 

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Real talk,....

fukk Ronda for taking away the full televised origin of dmx by dmx.
For her to straight say dmx's issues come from only drugs.
Not what drove him to drugs, for ratings.
Was the most underhanded bullshyt I have ever seen.
Dmx, tried to give her why and what his issues were.
This bytch,...just goes 180 over his own factual account of why and what his issues were.
Then proceeds to blame it all on his drug use.
When it is obvious,...
Anyone who knows a tad bit about dmx.
Knows he lived as rough a child hood for anyone person in the history of the world.
For her to do that when he openly came to try to be aided.
Was despicable, and an act that lacked good faith.



Art Barr
 

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i dont see why you cant tell an addict that, and i dont know where you are getting that information that unconditional love is what works, do you have link or source for that assertion?
Go read anything about addiction. Be it food, alcohol, or drugs. A strong support system is one of if not THE most important thing for recovery.

well we agree to disagree, but i dont even think its about that, as a human being, you have the right to remove negativity from your life and he exercised that right and that is the end of that
He does have that right, and he should have just said that. What he did was hide behind the guise of trying to help his dad when all be really wanted to do was vent and scold his dad.

well you asked me why X doesn't have the right to demand unconditional love and i answered the question, once you have harmed someone you can only ask for forgiveness and the victim has the right to make conditions, that is really a personal decision that the victim has to make

i will respect whatever decision the victim makes either way
I'm not going for this "victim" stuff. The boy was obviously well taken care of. All parents make mistakes, but he never abandond his kid and you can tell the boy knows he loves him. Problem is that love came with all of X's personal demons. None of us really know what happened in that boys life. Did he make some mistakes and hurt the boy yes. But I can't say he was a "victim" and even so as a "victim" if your not willing to let go of the past hurt then there is no reason to even address it. That's why I said he really wasn't trying to help him. He was just trying to tell him off and the therapist gave him the strength to do that.

and like i said i agree the son would have done it differently without the lady, he probably would have hugged it out at the end, but it was his decision to bring in the lady to help him

but i think the son did the right thing and it was his right, its the same situation with absent fathers that try to come back for example, its up to the victim to decide and the world to respect the decision
He exercise his right and probably made his dad worse off because of it. I think it was selfish of him to exercised that right using someone who obviously needs a lot of help.
 
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