DMX Breaks Down When His Son Checks Him! + Iyanla: Fix My Life Starring DMX (Full)

[Art Barr]

First off,....
For Ronda to be black and treat dmx.
Like he was some white cat with a drug problem.
all because he was trying to chase fitting into some type of status was complete bullshyt.
Not to mention,...
Her to just ignore dmx's personal history.
When real talk, dmx is a level headed passionate real actualized experienced dude.
who had just experienced to much for a guy like that with that type of spirit to bear.
It is obvious, he came to meet with her because she came with a rep for being an aid.
Yet, her help by numbers and template approach could never help dmx.
Dmx is one of the few black men.
You would have to listen and craft an exact personalized plan to aid him.
For her to try her standard help template and graft it onto dmx was completely unprofessional.
Plus, a violation of ethics.


Art Barr

 

[Piff Perkins]

He's done brehs. That was painful to watch. He had this chance to change, with his son begging for him to do it, and refused. It's over.

 

[theworldismine13]

Go read anything about addiction. Be it food, alcohol, or drugs. A strong support system is one of if not THE most important thing for recovery.

sure you need a strong support system, but that is different than unconditional love, im not an expert but i use to watch dr drew on mtv and i know he would never say some shyt like giving unconditional love to a drug addict is key, dr drew emphasized drawing lines in your life, you cant let people bring you down even if its a loved one

He does have that right, and he should have just said that. What he did was hide behind the guise of trying to help his dad when all be really wanted to do was vent and scold his dad.

i dont think that is what happened but even if it did, so what?

i think he just wanted to live a positive life and didnt want a negative influence in his life

what dmx was trying to say is not correct, love is not gonna heal all wounds, maybe time will, it might be better to separate for a time and go their separate ways

I'm not going for this "victim" stuff. The boy was obviously well taken care of. All parents make mistakes, but he never abandond his kid and you can tell the boy knows he loves him. Problem is that love came with all of X's personal demons. None of us really know what happened in that boys life. Did he make some mistakes and hurt the boy yes. But I can't say he was a "victim" and even so as a "victim" if your not willing to let go of the past hurt then there is no reason to even address it. That's why I said he really wasn't trying to help him. He was just trying to tell him off and the therapist gave him the strength to do that.

im buying the victim stuff, if your parent is a drug addict you are a victim

He exorcised his right and probably made his dad worse off because of it. I think it was selfish of him to exorcise that right using someone who obviously needs a lot of help.

yeah it could make it worse or maybe dmx will one day realize his son is more important than drugs, who knows, but at least the son has drawn the line in his life and he can move on

 

[theworldismine13]

First off,....
For Ronda to be black and treat dmx.
Like he was some white cat with a drug problem.
all because he was trying to chase fitting into some type of status was complete bullshyt.
Not to mention,...
Her to just ignore dmx's personal history.
When real talk, dmx is a level headed passionate real actualized experienced dude.
who had just experienced to much for a guy like that with that type of spirit to bear.
It is obvious, he came to meet with her because she came with a rep for being an aid.
Yet, her help by numbers and template approach could never help dmx.
Dmx is one of the few black men.
You would have to listen and craft an exact personalized plan to aid him.
For her to try her standard help template and graft it onto dmx was completely unprofessional.
Plus, a violation of ethics.


Art Barr

i agree this lady was not the best person, i think the son didnt have the strength to confront his father so he needed her

but im pretty sure any other professional would have said the same things she was saying

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Something's got to give
It's got to change cause now I got a son
I've got to do the right thing for shorty
And that means no more getting high drinking forties

-DMX (Slippin)


How did this thread go 184 posts without these lyrics being quoted is beyond me.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

sure you need a strong support system, but that is different than unconditional love, im not an expert but i use to watch dr drew on mtv and i know he would never say some shyt like giving unconditional love to a drug addict is key, dr drew emphasized drawing lines in your life, you cant let people bring you down even if its a loved one

If you are making the decision to help someone with a drug addiction it will take sacrifices and it will "bring you down" sometimes. But that's the point. You are that persons strength because they don't have enough on their own.

i dont think that is what happened but even if it did, so what?

i think he just wanted to live a positive life and didnt want a negative influence in his life

That's fine and he had already removed the negative influence from his life. They already don't have a relationship. The point of bringing him on the show was supposedly to help him, and obviously helping DMX wasn't either the son or ole girls true intentions. I'll chalk it up to the son being confused and not really understanding what he wanted but the "therapist" knew exactly what she was doing.

what dmx was trying to say is not correct, love is not gonna heal all wounds, maybe time will, it might be better to separate for a time and go their separate ways

Then there was absolutely no reason to do the show. The son could have drew lines and set ultimatums over the phone.

im buying the victim stuff, if your parent is a drug addict you are a victim

If that's the case then most people are victims

yeah it could make it worse or maybe dmx will one day realize his son is more important than drugs, who knows, but at least the son has drawn the line in his life and he can move on

Addiction doesn't work like that. It's not a decision that people are making. People decide to get right for their families all the time and still fail. People are faced with their own death and can't kick addictions. Once people become addicted to drugs they need them, it's like food. Doesn't matter how you feel about it or how much you want to quit, you are gonna eat when your body tells you to.

 

[fase]

How do you think the crack cocaine starts? You think the average crack, meth, heroin addict just upped and tried the shyt at 13,14,15? Chances are they didn't. It started with weed and the occasional drink. You weedheads are some of the worst, most ignorant and selfish phaggots on the planet.

 

[backbreaker65]

How many of you believe or think its possible that DMX, did the unspeakable to acquire crack? We all know the downward spiral.

1. Addiction
2. Run through your money
3. Borrow money and don't payback and no will lend it too you
4. Stealing/robbery
5. Steal and Rob your family
6. Less than Zero
7. I'll suck yo dikk man(Menace to Society Reference).

 

[theworldismine13]

If you are making the decision to help someone with a drug addiction it will take sacrifices and it will "bring you down" sometimes. But that's the point. You are that persons strength because they don't have enough on their own.

and you can put up with the sacrifices under the condition that the person is working on themselves, unconditional love says there is a bottomless pit, its unhealthy to make yourself a bottomless pit and accepting sacrifice without demanding the other person sacrifice

i want to see a source orlink that gives this advice that you are suggesting, from what i understand you have to draw lines

That's fine and he had already removed the negative influence from his life. They already don't have a relationship. The point of bringing him on the show was supposedly to help him, and obviously helping DMX wasn't either the son or ole girls true intentions. I'll chalk it up to the son being confused and not really understanding what he wanted but the "therapist" knew exactly what she was doing.

and? so what? i think the son's true intention was just to have a positive force in his life and not dealing with the negativity of reading about his dad in TMZ, i would actually agree that there was some selfishness in his son, but i think thats a healthy selfishness and i dont think he was asking for too much

Then there was absolutely no reason to do the show. The son could have drew lines and set ultimatums over the phone.

yeah i agree, that is true of 90 percent of reality shows, there is no reason for them except for our entertainment

If that's the case then most people are victims

if most people's parents use drugs then yeah most people are victims

Addiction doesn't work like that. It's not a decision that people are making. People decide to get right for their families all the time and still fail. People are faced with their own death and can't kick addictions. Once people become addicted to drugs they need them, it's like food. Doesn't matter how you feel about it or how much you want to quit, you are gonna eat when your body tells you to.

DMX is a man, that is DMX's problems, that is not his son's problem

 

[mortuus est]

-DMX (Slippin)


How did this thread go 184 posts without these lyrics being quoted is beyond me.

cause god said you would do it, now their is no god but he said you would do it

 

[MeachTheMonster]

and you can put up with the sacrifices under the condition that the person is working on themselves, unconditional love says there is a bottomless pit, its unhealthy to make yourself a bottomless pit and accepting sacrifice without demanding the other person sacrifice

i want to see a source orlink that gives this advice that you are suggesting, from what i understand you have to draw lines

For a drug addict one moment without drugs is a sacrifice. There are plenty of differnt methods, but the one thing that's consistent is that the support system needs to be there. Unconditional love is no bottomless pit, in fact it's the opposite. You have to love the person unconditionally in order to draw lines. If you don't love them unconditionally it's easy to say just accept what they do. But if you love that person you will set lines and goals, and see to it that they are followed, and enforce whatever concequences you've agreed on. You don't say "quit smoking" or I'm not gonna help you. All addicts quit smoking a bunch of times. The support is there to help them not go back to the drugs. And being a helper you should understand that they will relapse, and that's when you are needed most. Not when you should turn your back on them.

DMX is a man, that is DMX's problems, that is not his son's problem

Well he should have just left him alone then. Should DMX have told his son "your hunger is your problem?

I guess we will disagree here too, because my parents problems are my problem. Just like they have tried to solve any problem that I have, I will stand for them unconditionally.

 

[theworldismine13]

For a drug addict one moment without drugs is a sacrifice. There are plenty of differnt methods, but the one thing that's consistent is that the support system needs to be there. Unconditional love is no bottomless pit, in fact it's the opposite. You have to love the person unconditionally in order to draw lines. If you don't love them unconditionally it's easy to say just accept what they do. But if you love that person you will set lines and goals, and see to it that they are followed, and enforce whatever concequences you've agreed on. You don't say "quit smoking" or I'm not gonna help you. All addicts quit smoking a bunch of times. The support is there to help them not go back to the drugs. And being a helper you should understand that they will relapse, and that's when you are needed most. Not when you should turn your back on them.

are you even reading what your wrote? the son set lines and goals and set consequences, you spent a whole page criticizing him for that and now you are saying that is what needs to be done?

Well he should have just left him alone then. Should DMX have told his son "your hunger is your problem?

I guess we will disagree here too, because my parents problems are my problem. Just like they have tried to solve any problem that I have, I will stand for them unconditionally.

i think you are speaking in platitudes that dont really mean anything, every parent sets rules and regulations for their kids

and when kids are grown those rules and regulations change and sometimes the parent has to adapt to the rules that their kid makes for himself, apparently his son decided to make a rule

i would only have beef with what the son did if the request had been ridiculous, but asking your pops to stop using drugs is not a ridiculous request

 

[TheDarceKnight]

man, i had a hard time watching that shyt wit taraji pic in the background

i can't imagine what this nikkka x will be like in 10 years if he still alive, son look bad.

I've spent a lot of time around addicts man, I used to be one. If X keeps going at this rate I don't think he'll be here in 10 years. That said, if he is...yeah you're right, he will look horrible.

Unfortunately, everyone I've seen this far gone usually doesn't get better. I don't see X turning it around. Really hope he does. This shyt is hard as fukk to watch.

 

[Pop123]

how you under 45 years of age and never heard of Google?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

are you even reading what your wrote? the son set lines and goals and set consequences, you spent a whole page criticizing him for that and now you are saying that is what needs to be done?

That's not the same as saying stop or else. His son didn't say "hey dad I'm gonna work with you and help you stop so we can have a healthy relationship" and the lines would be don't call me or come get me when your high. That's setting lines setting goals and still offering support.

he said "dad you leave this interview and go get clean, then we can talk" that's not about helping or conditional love. He was just scolding his dad.

i think you are speaking in platitudes that dont really mean anything, every parent sets rules and regulations for their kids

and when kids are grown those rules and regulations change and sometimes the parent has to adapt to the rules that their kid makes for himself, apparently his son decided to make a rule

i would only have beef with what the son did if the request had been ridiculous, but asking your pops to stop using drugs is not a ridiculous request

that's ironic coming from you.

I'm sure he's asked him to stop before. My problem isn't with him asking his dad to stop or setting ultimatums. My gripe is with him taking his dad on TV to showcase his demons in order to do those things, under the guise of "helping" him. He could have told him off and gave him an ultimatum without misleading him and attacking him in front of the whole world.