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Were The Founders Authoritarians? A Resounding Yes. - Marcus H Johnson
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Outside of my role as a PhD student, I haven’t done much writing during the pandemic. There’s been a lot going on in the world, obviously, and I spent just as much time as everyone else watching in horror as COVID-19 spread around the world. This has been, perhaps, the unique post second world war global crisis in which the entire world is impacted at once. This event has shaken a number of societies to their core. That the pandemic coincided with the political defeat of Donald Trump will make it that much more interesting for the historians. By now, most objective observers agree that Trump is an authoritarian, or at least aspires to be some version of the word. His rallies have largely been about the prosecution of his political opponents. His demonization of large segments of the non-white population is part of his core political appeal. He allegedly asked US generals to shoot anti-racism protesters in the streets. And of course, he played a key role in fomenting an attempted coup against the United States government on January 6th, with the explicit goal of illegally retaining power indefinitely. In Trump’s ideal version of America, non-whites are pushed to the margins in all metrics. Conservative whites would be free to wield power to their own ends, with the backing of coercive force. This is a man who wished to abolish birthright citizenship, after all. Trump is often viewed as a crass, craven figure who is against the core tenets of the American political project. But this is a self-serving view for those who believe in the founding myth and the American ethos. In reality, the founders were themselves authoritarians, and the political system they initially created is one Trump and his movement wish to return to.

When you claim that the founders were authoritarians, you typically get a few common rebuttals:

  1. The founders were political geniuses for creating a nation that has lasted hundreds of years.
  2. The founders were enlightened for their time.
  3. That some of the founders did not like slavery and did not hold slaves.
  4. That you’re wrong, and the founders actually did set up a democracy.
The first point can be dispelled easily enough, since there have been countless empires which have existed continuously for several hundred years, in one shape or another. The United States has not technically existed continuously for all of this time, given the failure of the Articles of Confederation and the necessity of the Civil War to bring back the seceding pro-slavery states. None of these things make the United States unique or special among nations. The second point is a moral argument. “Sure they did some bad things, but they were good people and those things were legal then. They did what they had to do to build this country.” Proponents of this angle essentially argue that we cannot render moral judgement given the political environment or social context of the time. This is an absurd argument, of course. If we can agree that slavery is a moral wrong, if we can agree that a political system based on its propagation is unjust, it doesn’t matter what time period the actions took place in. This third point is factually correct, there was a percentage of founders who did not own slaves. However, this group was still willing to form a political union with the slave owning class, and even provide them with additional political representation for owning people who themselves could not vote. This point is not a bonus in favor of the upstanding ethics of a faction of the founders, it is rather evidence of how little the issue of ending bondage mattered to them. Here is Benjamin Franklin, a man who is often written about as an early anti-slavery figure:

“Why increase the sons of  Africa, by planting them in  America, where we have so fair an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawnys, of increasing the lovely white and red?”

Another Franklin quote from the same document reads:

“Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased.”

I find it clear that Franklin was not interested in the kind of multiracial democracy America aspires to be today. To the fourth point, some people will still claim that the founders actually DID set up a democratic state. How do we define democracy? Political scientists such as Dahl would say it is about open voting systems, along with guarantees of civil rights and political competitiveness. On the other hand, authoritarian regimes are defined as being closed, where only few favored classes have political or economic rights. The founders set up a political system where Black people were to be enslaved, where Native Americans were to be moved off of their lands, where women could not participate. If we were to look at such a system today, it would unquestionably be labeled authoritarian. At best, we could call what the founders established a hybrid regime, where some level of electoral contestation is allowed within narrow bounds, but where mass political repression and exclusion remains systemic. The founders did not intend on having a democracy, where all people living under their rule would have an opportunity to participate and contest power. No, the founders created a system where some people were illegitimate political actors simply by nature of their birth.

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It was not the founders that created the modern American democracy. They created a system to reward the white elite at the expense of others. The legacy of the founders remains today–whites have disproportionate political representation (in the Senate especially, thanks to a rural bias) and disproportionate economic power and representation on corporate boards in relation to their population size. And yet this is still progress, because the past was much more unequal. The founders of modern American democracy are abolitionists, suffragists, and civil rights leaders. John Brown, in all his radicalism, is more of a founder of modern America than many of the men at the Constitutional Convention. These are the groups that slowly transitioned America away from being a system where only white male elites could contest power. That transition has come with much bloodshed. It took the Civil War, the Second World War, and the Civil Rights Movement. Understanding America’s founding as closed or hybrid authoritarianism rather than open democracy helps explain much of American history. Many of this country’s major political and socioeconomic disputes (slavery, industrialization, reconstruction, the creation of the welfare state, mass incineration) are merely about debates about how much power should others have relative to white elites.

History is written by the victors. After all, if American history books were authored by enslaved Black people, or by Native Americans, would they read that the United States initially set up a democracy? The myth of America’s founding was created by those in power to establish their legitimacy. To ensure that marginalized people do not question the political order, or think too deeply about how things came to be. It is a myth designed to stifle social change and prevent Americans from considering the truth: that the founding fathers were not democrats, but authoritarians who only opened their political system in the aftermath of war.

This is not to be pessimistic. Things with terrible origins can be transformed into something greater. We need to understand the brutality and horrors of America’s origin story if we are to transform it into a true, multicultural democracy. One where racial characteristics alone do not determine political and economic outcomes. Where the upper class is not singularly white, and the lower classes disproportionately non white. Where women can rule. This new vision of America is antithetical to what the founders intended. Modern conservatives are correct when they say that modern America is turning away from the founders’ vision and ideals. America’s history has been a long struggle away from the authoritarian system initially set up by the founders, with marginalized groups fighting to make it more just and equal. Which brings us back to Donald Trump. The movement that Trump represents seeks to overthrow a regime which has steadily moved away from white dominance and towards fuller democratization. It seeks to return to a system more similar to what the founders established. I’ve seen people write that the founders would be ashamed of Trump. But I think if you could revive them, the founders would probably have on red MAGA hats.
 
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Opinion | George Washington Feared for America and Other Truths About the Founders We’ve Frozen in Time
Jamelle Bouie
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Jamelle Bouie

July 27, 2021

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It is old hat to note that Americans have deified their “founding fathers” as saints — secular or otherwise. What is a little less obvious is how that deification has frozen them in time.

We hail the Thomas Jefferson of 1776, not the one of 1806; the James Madison of 1787 rather than the one of 1827. We remember George Washington the triumphant military leader of 1783 more than George Washington the reluctant president of 1793.

The extent to which the founders are frozen in time is most apparent in how they’re used for present-day political purposes. Truth of the matter aside, when speakers say, “This is what the founders intended,” they tend to mean, “This is what the founders intended at the Philadelphia Convention.”

The problem is that the men we call the founders did not stop thinking or writing or acting in politics with ratification of the Constitution. Nor did they stop after serving in office. Even when retired from public life, they continued to comment on current affairs, to express their highest hopes and aspirations as well as their deepest fears and apprehensions.

Those fears and apprehensions are the subject of a recent book by Dennis C. Rasmussen, a political scientist at Syracuse University. In “Fears of a Setting Sun: The Disillusionment of America’s Founders,” Rasmussen walks readers through the later-in-life correspondence of Jefferson, Washington, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams, all of whom feared for the fate of the American republic following their service in the government they created. And for good reason.

“There were few precedents or fixed poles to guide the nation’s lawmakers,” Rasmussen writes, “and the very fate of republican liberty seemed to them to hinge on their every decision.” A “sense of crisis pervaded the era,” and the founders’ correspondence was “littered with predictions of imminent collapse.”

Washington, Rasmussen notes, was consumed with fear of “faction” — political parties and their consequences for the future of the republic. “Until within the last year or two,” he told Jefferson in a July 1796 letter, “I had no conception that Parties Would, or even could go, the length I have been Witness to.”

Over the previous year, Washington had been embroiled in a swirling political storm over the Jay Treaty. Negotiated by John Jay, then the chief justice of the United States, the treaty attempted to resolve a number of issues still outstanding after the end of the Revolutionary War. Attacked as a brazen giveaway to Britain, the treaty inspired furious reaction from Washington’s Republican opposition, which emerged in his second term under the leadership of Jefferson and Madison. “The backlash against the treaty,” Rasmussen writes, “was like nothing” Washington “had experienced before.”

The Republican press turned its sights squarely on the once-untouchable president, using every term of abuse it could muster and leveling every charge it could concoct, no matter how implausible. Washington was senile; he was a blasphemer; he was a womanizer; he had embezzled public funds; he was a tool of the British crown or desired a crown of his own; Hamilton not only controlled him behind the scenes but was somehow also his illegitimate son; Washington had been a secret British agent during the Revolutionary War, and his efforts to betray the patriotic cause were foiled by Benedict Arnold beating him to the punch.

Washington’s famous farewell address — in which he warned against faction — was as much about the circumstances of his own administration as it was a warning to future Americans. In his final year, however, Washington seemed to surrender to the reality of parties and factionalism. Asked to consider a third term for president, he told the governor of Connecticut, Jonathan Trumbull, that he was “thoroughly convinced I should not draw a single vote from the Anti-federal side” and that character was irrelevant to the outcomes of elections. “Let that party set up a broomstick, and call it a true son of Liberty, a Democrat, or give it any other epithet that will suit their purpose, and it will command their votes in toto!”

John Adams, who devoted his life to the republic and the revolutionary cause, feared the consequences of peace and prosperity for the moral fiber of the American people. Writing to his son, John Quincy, in October 1814, he remarked that

human Nature cannot bear Prosperity. It invariably intoxicates Individuals and Nations. Adversity is the great Reformer. Affliction is the purifying furnace. Prosperity has thrown our dear America into an easy trance for 30 years. The dear delights of Riches and Luxury have drowned all her intellectual and physical Energies.

But this was in the midst of the second war with Britain, and the nation’s willingness to fight had made Adams cautiously optimistic that “the Germ of Virtue” was not destroyed and that “The Root of the matter is Still in us, and alive.”

For the remainder of his years, Rasmussen notes, Adams would oscillate between a kind of optimism and a disillusionment with the American experiment: “I fear there will be greater difficulties to preserve our Union, than You and I, our Fathers Brothers Friends Disciples and Sons have had to form it,” Adams wrote to Jefferson in 1816. During the administration of James Monroe, Adams wrote on an even darker note to John Quincy, “If there is any Thing Serious in this World, the Selfishness of our Countrymen is not only Serious but melancholy, foreboding ravages of Ambition and Avarice which never were exceeded on this Selfish Globe.”

The “distemper in our Nation is so general,” he concluded, “and so certainly incurable.”

Whereas Washington was worried about the politics of the nation, and Adams the character of its people, Hamilton was worried about its institutions. He feared the national government would be too weak — too weak to stand as an equal on the international stage and too weak to rebuff greedy and self-interested state governments. With the decline of John Adams and the Federalists — who favored a powerful executive and strong federal authority — and the ascension of Thomas Jefferson and the Republican Party, Hamilton became convinced that the republic’s days were numbered.

Here’s Rasmussen:

Because of the underlying weaknesses of the political order, even the greatest successes of the Federalists had proven fleeting: “What will signify a vibration of power, if it cannot be used with confidence or energy, & must be again quickly restored to hands which will prostrate much faster than we shall be able to rear under so frail a system?”

To Rufus King, Hamilton wrote that “the prospects of our Country are not brilliant. The mass is far from sound.”

Jefferson was practically defined by his optimism about and enthusiasm for the American experiment. But he too saw dark tidings as he came to the end of his life, spurred on by the nation’s mounting conflict over slavery. “The source of Jefferson’s frustration and despondency,” Rasmussen writes, “was not the continued failure of the South to finally put slavery on the road to extinction, but rather the North’s opposition to its expansion.”

That opposition flared during the Missouri statehood crisis of 1820. The white majority in Missouri had approved of slavery in its constitution when it applied for statehood. If Congress admitted Missouri into the union with slavery intact, it would break the sectional balance in favor of the South. Northern lawmakers tried to stop this outcome with an amendment to the statehood bill that would have forced a system of gradual emancipation on existing slaveholders in the state.

Jefferson, who backed the South’s position, saw the conflict in apocalyptic terms. Here’s Rasmussen again:

If Congress could impose a gradual emancipation scheme on Missouri as a condition of statehood, [Jefferson] reasoned, then it “may, and probably will next declare that the condition of all men within the U.S. shall be that of freedom, in which case all the whites South of the Patomak and Ohio must evacuate their states; and most fortunate those who can do it first.”

After Congress passed its compromise on the issue — admitting Missouri as a slave state, admitting Maine as a free state and prohibiting slavery in the remaining territories of the Louisiana Purchase north of the 36°30′ parallel — Jefferson expressed his belief that the divide, represented by that line, would prove intractable:

“A geographical line, coinciding with a marked principle, moral and political, once conceived and held up to the angry passions of men, will never be obliterated; and every new irritation will mark it deeper and deeper,” he wrote in an April 1820 letter to John Holmes, a Republican from Maine.

Jefferson went on:

I am now to die in the belief that the useless sacrifice of themselves, by the generation of ’76, to acquire self-government and happiness to their country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be that I live not to weep over it.


If there was a counterpoint to all of this pessimism, Rasmussen points out, it came from James Madison, who outlived his peers to see the union survive political crisis, partisan rancor and social transformation. “I have never despaired,” he said in his final public speech, nine months into the presidency of Andrew Jackson, “notwithstanding all the threatening appearances we have passed through. I have now more than a hope, a consoling confidence that we shall at last find that our labors have not been in vain.”

Madison was no Pollyanna. What he had was a strong sense of the possible and a willingness to live with imperfections. “No Government of human device, & human administration can be perfect; that that which is the least imperfect is therefore the best government,” he wrote in 1834. Or, as Rasmussen puts it, “Long experience had persuaded Madison beyond a doubt that the American form of government was preferable to the alternatives.”

Millions of Americans are, at this moment, fearful for the future of their democracy. Millions more are deeply dissatisfied with the nation’s institutions and skeptical of its ability to tackle the challenges ahead of us. It is clarifying to confront both facts knowing that the founders themselves were as pessimistic about their future as we are about ours. It is nice to have perspective.

The American republic survived against their expectations, but that does not mean their pessimism was unwarranted. Jefferson’s fear of disunion, in particular, was prophetic.

What, then, is there to take from the founders, knowing what we know now about their fear and disillusionment? Perhaps we can take some of that despair and channel it toward critique rather than defeat. And perhaps, from Madison, we can take the faith that American democracy still holds the resources to revitalize itself — and us along with it.

Jamelle Bouie became a New York Times Opinion columnist in 2019. Before that he was the chief political correspondent for Slate magazine. He is based in Charlottesville, Va., and Washington. @jbouie
 
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