Disney not very happy with FOX flopping at movie theaters

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I really hope they don't try to make Deadpool a PG13 rated franchise in order to make it fit the universe. It would ruin the character.
 

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Terrible movies make bank all the time when they are part of successful franchieses. Look at Lion King - everyone agrees that movie is worthless and it still made tons of money. Do you believe it's false that Disney laid off the marketing team? That they were focused on controlling costs at the premier?

Either way, the reason that Dark Phoenix flopped isn't particularly important, because Disney is going to keep making lots of movies EXACTLY like Dark Phoenix. You really think they're going to stop making big budget superhero sequels? We can all see the real issue coming from a mile away - they're cynically using Dark Phoenix's flop to cut off funding for any risky and interesting movies coming through the pipeline.

I'm saying the same people saying :damn: "but Disney laid off the marketing team!" wouldn't even know that if not for this article because again....there was a full press tour, multiple trailers, TV spots, interviews leading up to "Dark Phoenix".

As far as the rest of the movies....I guarantee 99.99% of the people in this thread complaining about all this never seen "Stuber". Cats are acting like Fox handed Disney cinematic gold or something.

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EA gets more shyt for their predatory practices than what happened to ME. When gamers went off on the ending of ME 3 they went after Bioware not EA. The complaint to the FTC, BBB (and others) and even the petition to have the ending changed was all directed to Bioware :justwhy:.

:unimpressed:

The BBB, FTC shyt happened after Bioware writer Patrick Weekes revealed that Casey Hudson ruined the end of 3. Prior to that everyone assumed it was EA being EA.

C'mon man. I'm an OG "Mass Effect" stan from SOHH.

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I'm saying the same people saying :damn: "but Disney laid off the marketing team!" wouldn't even know that if not for this article because again....there was a full press tour, multiple trailers, TV spots, interviews leading up to "Dark Phoenix".

As far as the rest of the movies....I guarantee 99.99% of the people in this thread complaining about all this never seen "Stuber". Cats are acting like Fox handed Disney cinematic gold or something.

Fred.

For me, it’s less about the movies they cited as unferperformers and more about their entire philosophy as a studio at this point. No risk, nothing new, just going to the well with what’s worked before and playing everything very safe. Movie making by computer
 

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For me, it’s less about the movies they cited as unferperformers and more about their entire philosophy as a studio at this point. No risk, nothing new, just going to the well with what’s worked before and playing everything very safe. Movie making by computer

This is why I compared it to the EA/Bioware shyt. The point you're trying to make is 100% accurate and I'd fully agree with it but :damn: "they cut the marketing for 'Stuber'!" is not the route to go here. Cats did not give a single solitary fukk about any of the movies listed including "Dark Phoenix".

Fred.
 

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This is why I compared it to the EA/Bioware shyt. The point you're trying to make is 100% accurate and I'd fully agree with it but :damn: "they cut the marketing for 'Stuber'!" is not the route to go here. Cats did not give a single solitary fukk about any of the movies listed including "Dark Phoenix".

Fred.

Yeah that’s stupid. Now if you saw Stuber and fukked with it, be mad about that. But you’re missing the forest for the trees if you’re cherry picking movies from this article or any article on the subject. Tears will not be shed for Dark Phoenix or stuber but should be for the larger implications
 

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I haven't seen Dark Phoenix but the X-Men franchise was a hit under FOX for the most part. X-Men Days of Future Past did over $700M at the box office. Logan did exceptionally well, it was nominated for an Oscar in writing. The Deadpool movies cost nothing to make and ended up making well over $700M at the box office as well.

Deadpool is actually one of the more profitable franchises around because the movies have a very low budget.

I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that FOX ruined that franchise, they clearly did not. They did have some shytty movies in there but the hits were big hits.

Man you gotta be trolling with all this. Either that or you never really gave a fukk about the X-Men.

Fox 100% ran that franchise into the ground.

Made Cyclops, the actual leader of the X-Men, into Wolverine's bytch.

Made Mystique the leader of the X-Men based solely on Jennifer's Lawrence's stardom.

Ruined not one....but two of the greatest X-Men arcs in history (Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix).

fukked up the continuity so bad they had to reboot it 2-3 times.

Had the entire X-Men and it's expanded universe for two decades and focused on the same 10-15 characters. To the point that people are tired of Magneto. Which is insane when you think about it.

There is some gems in there but Fox had tarnished the brand so bad prior to "Dark Phoenix" that a god damned Antman movie made more money than "Apocalypse".

Fred.
 

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Yeah that’s stupid. Now if you saw Stuber and fukked with it, be mad about that. But you’re missing the forest for the trees if you’re cherry picking movies from this article or any article on the subject. Tears will not be shed for Dark Phoenix or stuber but should be for the larger implications
I legit was entertained by Stuber but if it flopped then :bugsshrug:
Not like I was desperately looking for a sequel.
 

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I honestly saw like maybe 2 trailers for Stuber and didn't even know that shyt dropped.

I've been on a kids movie roll this summer. :francis:Taking the kids to all the flicks. Haven't seen lion king tho.
 
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Man you gotta be trolling with all this. Either that or you never really gave a fukk about the X-Men.

Fox 100% ran that franchise into the ground.

Made Cyclops, the actual leader of the X-Men, into Wolverine's bytch.

Made Mystique the leader of the X-Men based solely on Jennifer's Lawrence's stardom.

Ruined not one....but two of the greatest X-Men arcs in history (Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix).

fukked up the continuity so bad they had to reboot it 2-3 times.

Had the entire X-Men and it's expanded universe for two decades and focused on the same 10-15 characters. To the point that people are tired of Magneto. Which is insane when you think about it.

There is some gems in there but Fox had tarnished the brand so bad prior to "Dark Phoenix" that a god damned Antman movie made more money than "Apocalypse".

Fred.


What? lol... I'm saying they put out hits. I'm not saying I liked all of it or it was true to the characters. X-Men, X2, X-Men The Last Stand (even tho it sucked), X-Men First Class, X-Men Days of Future Past, Logan, Deadpool and Deadpool 2 all made money...

Deadpool and Deadpool 2 and Logan were very successful because again they didn't cost much to produce at all...

There is no denying those facts.

Yeah, Dark Phoenix lost a bunch of money, if you go through the whole catalog that's the only movie from FOX during this whole 19-year run that lost money. Most of them made money and some of them were VERY successful.

Your post had nothing to do with what I said. :manny:
 

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Well damn...

Disney barely got back what FOX put into Dark Phoenix from the box office.

Tbh, though I wouldn't be mad if they canned New Mutants altogether or put that shyt on Netflix. I'm glad Marvel has taken X-Men & Fantastic 4 away from FOX after what they did to those last 3 movies. Deadpool might have to get put on the back burner.

lmaoooo look at this disney man child.

fukk creativity and yaaay monopoly cause now Wolverine can play paaty cake with Spiderman lmaoooo.. fuccin fakkits
 

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:ehh: Surprised that Devon Franklin movie made a huge profit. I didn’t see any promotion at all for it.


It looks like maybe Disney will make Deadpool a show like Daredevil.

The black christian community been supporting dude.

He got that formula. Appeal to his target audience and keep the budget low.
 

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lmaoooo look at this disney man child.

fukk creativity and yaaay monopoly cause now Wolverine can play paaty cake with Spiderman lmaoooo.. fuccin fakkits

You come off like a real fukkin clown. I said what I said b/c FOX never gave a shyt about following and using the actual source material from the comics. The actual point of creating a COMIC BOOK movie! You smart fukk!
 

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lmaoooo look at this disney man child.

fukk creativity and yaaay monopoly cause now Wolverine can play paaty cake with Spiderman lmaoooo.. fuccin fakkits

They want $30 movie tickets

But have you seen my thread on Disney underpaying their employees? Up that for me please.
 
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