Did yall have to show ID to vote? I’m in Chicago and they didn’t ask for ID… 🤔 👀

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no ID needed here in Lewiston, Maine; Just verified my address with the registrar
 

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:mjlol: :mjlol: This cum kissin ass nikka used zero intellect and made claims about not understanding voter verification when nothing was fukking verified. other coli brehs in others states have said some of their booths required IDs and some didn’t.

What would stop me from claiming to be my neighbor when they didn’t ask for ID?

Do us a favor and don’t reproduce and commit that
Incompetent ass nikka starts every post off with a Homoerotic fantasy :mjlol: like it's second nature to this damn buffoon...

No wonder the fakkit doesn't know how elections work and needs other grown men to explain it to him on an internet chat board like a child....

get your stupid ass back to being taught the fundamentals of voting you fatherless moron.... It's a shame your daddy didn't take your advice...would have spared us all one less dumbass
 

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State and drivers license are racist :troll:

yes adding costs to things tend to prohibit and reduce who is allowed to participate, this has been a known tactic of racists since jim crow.

getting ID isn't cheap at all especially if you're missing a bunch of important documents, it can be very time-consuming as well. so consider all the back and forth you got to do during business hours which literally cost people money cause they have to miss work and most americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
 

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:mjlol: :mjlol: This cum kissin ass nikka used zero intellect and made claims about not understanding voter verification when nothing was fukking verified. other coli brehs in others states have said some of their booths required IDs and some didn’t.

What would stop me from claiming to be my neighbor when they didn’t ask for ID?

Do us a favor and don’t reproduce and commit that

you signature would have to match your neighbors signature which they last used to vote and you're assuming your neighbor is registered to vote in the first place.
 

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When I voted in Georgia I needed an ID, but here in NY, no ID.
I don't know if it's required or not but i gave my ID for the first time here in NYS. I think they used it to quickly find my address, name, etc. rather than it being required. If I didn't give them my ID that gave them my info they prob would have just asked me for it but that means they have to look it up rather than having it served up.

Shout out to people who don't have photo ID because they can't afford it. I was living that life for more years than I care to admit when I was young head.
 

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yes adding costs to things tend to prohibit and reduce who is allowed to participate, this has been a known tactic of racists since jim crow.

getting ID isn't cheap at all especially if you're missing a bunch of important documents, it can be very time-consuming as well. so consider all the back and forth you got to do during business hours which literally cost people money cause they have to miss work and most americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
It's almost like not everyone has the same resources or circumstances.


The cost of a Florida state ID card is $25, plus a $6.25 service fee charged by most local tax collector offices




So you mean to tell me since I had my state ID since 16 to my age now mid 30s, that there's a mf'er that ain't got $31 fukking dollars to get the same state ID for nearly two decades?????:mjlol:
 

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yeah its required where i live. (tulsa ok)

i lived on the north side but i moved to the suburbs and never updated my voter registration. i noticed on the rolls i had to sign that there were asterisks by my name asking to verify my id. since my drivers license expired on halloween i had a temporary one. thank god i had the old one, because the older lady (black) was checking EVERYTHING and the poll watcher (fat mario looking redneck cac) was all over her shoulder verifying it. i got an indian name too and i swear his eyeballs were playing pong with the back and forth :mjpls:

lady was nice about it. i did my thing for kamala, retained the court judges/comms so governor shytt cant appoint his racist jesus buddies, and voted for monroe nichols. race is between two dems but nichols will be the first black mayor.

they didnt have any "i voted" stickers, though :why:
 

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The cost of a Florida state ID card is $25, plus a $6.25 service fee charged by most local tax collector offices

:mjlol:
i always thought someone should write a bill waiving that fee for people on assistance programs. since theyre required by law to have them, they ought to be provided.
 

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The cost of a Florida state ID card is $25, plus a $6.25 service fee charged by most local tax collector offices




So you mean to tell me since I was 16 to my age now mid 30s, a mf'er ain't got $31 fukking dollars in two decades?????:mjlol:

not everybody have those documents and obtaining them ain't free.

What to Bring​

U.S. Citizen​


U.S. citizens renewing, replacing, or applying for a new driver license or ID card in-person must submit the following documents before a REAL-ID compliant driver license or ID card can be issued. Please note that the name assigned to the Social Security Number (SSN) must match the name that will appear on the Florida driver license or ID card. Customers who have recently changed their name should update their records with the Social Security Administration, before applying for a driver license or ID card.


1. Primary Identification


An original of one of the following documents with complete name:


  • U.S. birth certificate, including some U.S. territories and District of Columbia (birth certificates from Puerto Rico must have an issue date after July 1, 2010); or
  • Valid U.S. passport or passport card; or
  • Consular Report of Birth Abroad; or
  • Certificate of Naturalization, form N-550 or form N-570; or
  • Certificate of Citizenship, form N-560 or form N-561.

NOTES


  • Only a birth certificate issued by a county health department or the CDC Bureau of Vital Statistics will be accepted. Hospital birth certificates are not considered a certified document and will not be accepted.
  • Please come prepared to present one of the above listed identification documents as proof of citizenship or legal presence.
  • When applicable, marriage certificates, court orders or divorce decrees must be provided to link the name on the primary identification to the name on the driver license or ID card.
  • If a valid U.S. passport has the customer’s current name, they are not required to present additional name change documents.

2. Proof of Social Security


An original of one of the following documents with complete name and complete SSN:


  • Social Security card (with the customer’s current name);
  • W-2 form (not handwritten); or
  • Pay check/stub; or
  • SSA-1099; or
  • Any 1099 (not handwritten).

Customers without an SSN can find assistance on our What To Bring FAQ page.


3. Proof of Residential Address


Customers may not use their current driver license or ID card as proof of residential address.


Customers must submit two different documents with their Florida residential address (printouts or faxes of these documents are acceptable).
We will no longer accept out-of-state or U.S. territory addresses for applicants obtaining a Florida Class E license or identification card.


Residential address documents include, but are not limited to:


  • Household information documents – Deed, mortgage, monthly mortgage statement, or residential rental/lease agreement; or
  • Florida voter registration card; or
  • Valid Florida vehicle registration or title; or
  • Utility bill – (Ex. water, gas, electricity, cell phone, cable) (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Automobile payment booklet (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Selective service card (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Medical or health card and/or medical bill (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Homeowner and/or automobile insurance policy or bill (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Employer documentation (W-2 form or 1099 form, paycheck stub
  • A letter from a homeless shelter, transitional service provider or a half-way house verifying the customer resides at the shelter address. (must be dated within the last 30 days); or
  • Financial statements (bank, credit cards or investment accounts) (must be dated within the last 30 days)
  • Mail/documents used by Federal, State, County or City government agencies (including cities and county agencies) (must be dated within the last 30 days)
  • Sexual Offender/Sexual Predator/Career Offender: (must be dated within the last 30 days) Certification of Address, section A, and the FDLE Registration form completed by the local sheriff’s department.

Customers who do not have any of the above documents in their name may have the person they reside with complete a Certification of Address form along with two proof of address documents listed on that form. The person the customer lives with must be present at the issuance office or must sign a Certification of Address form in the presence of a notary.


In accordance with the REAL ID Act, customers are not required to present these documents for subsequent renewals unless their information changes (e.g., name, address). However, if the customer is applying for a Commercial Learner’s Permit (CLP) or Commercial Driver License (CDL), they must present proof of residence documents as outlined below.


Proof of Residential Address for CLP and CDL Holders


All CLP or CDL applicants must present two proofs of Florida residential address in their name. Applicants can present two proofs from List A or one proof from List A and one proof from List B.


LIST A for CLP / CDL – item presented must be in the applicant’s name.


  1. A recent lease or rental agreement for the residence with a term of 6 months or greater in the name of the driver; or
  2. Current Florida voter registration card; or
  3. Florida vehicle or vessel registration or title; or
  4. Current homeowner’s insurance policy or bill; or
  5. Current utility bill (water, gas, electricity, cell phone, cable) must be dated within the last 30-days; or
  6. Recent cellular or landline telephone bill (must be dated within the last 30 to 60 days); or
  7. Recent internet service provider bill (must be dated within the last 30 to 60 days); or
  8. Latest property tax bill;
  9. Mortgage deed for property in Florida

LIST B for CLP / CDL – item presented must be in the applicant’s name.


  1. Latest W-2 form or 1099 form; or
  2. Recent bank statement (must be dated within the last 60 days); or
  3. Recent credit card statement (must be dated within the last 60 days); or
  4. Latest military orders; or
  5. Recent pay stub (must be dated within the last 60 days); or
  6. Recent official government documents (must be dated within the last 60 days)

CLP or CDL applicants unable to provide a proof of residential address from list A, must provide a Declaration of Domicile filed with the Clerk of the Circuit Court pursuant to Florida Statutes section 222.17 and one proof of residential address document from list B.


CLP & CDL applicants cannot use a Certification of Address (HSMV-71120) for licensure.


Proof of Florida Residency for CLP and CDL Applicants


All customers applying for an original CDL or Commercial Learner’s Permit (CLP) must present one of the documents listed below to establish Florida residency:


  • A current Florida Class E Driver License or Florida Identification card held for a period of more than six (6) consecutive months.
  • A lease agreement, in the customer’s name, that has been in place for a period of more than six (6) consecutive months.
  • A current residential mortgage, in the customer’s name, signed more than six (6) months ago.
  • A current residential deed, in the customer’s name, signed more than six (6) months ago.
  • A Florida Voter Registration Card.
  • A statement of domicile pursuant to section 222.17, F.S.
  • A homestead tax exemption filing on property in this state.

Name Changes


Customers who have legally changed their name by marriage, divorce or court order must submit the original or a certified marriage certificate, divorce decree or court order. Photocopies are not accepted. Marriage certificates must be recognized by the state of Florida. Generally, marriage certificates issued in Florida or another state in accordance with the respective laws of those states are recognized by the State of Florida. Church-issued marriage certificates are not accepted.


Note:
Please allow 24 to 48 hours after changing your name with Social Security Administration before applying to change it with the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. Your name must verify with the Social Security electronic system to obtain a Florida driver license or identification card.


Certified copies of marriage certificates or divorce decrees may be obtained at the clerk of court in the county where it was originally filed.
 

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i always thought someone should write a bill waiving that fee for people on assistance programs. since theyre required by law to have them, they ought to be provided.
Nah fukk that if should be waived for minors and senior citizens only, I'm tired of babying grown ass able bodied adults that already get free shyt :camby:
 

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not everybody have those documents and obtaining them ain't free.
Sooo you're a grown ass adult with no mail showing your address, no SSN card, no birth certificate, no check stub, no W2? And then not even the $31 to pay for the fee

Bruh you got wayyyy more pressing issues then voting.

You mfers in here would have people believe there's a large percentage of Black Americans living like newly released slaves during the Reconstruction era :mjlol:
 

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Breh! I voted for the first time in Chicago on Sunday and not showing ID threw me off too. Georgia requires IDs.

So I'm assuming there’s nothing stopping a rando from using your name and address to cast a vote for you :yeshrug:
 

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Sooo you're a grown ass adult with no mail showing your address, no SSN card, no birth certificate, no check stub, no W2? And then not even the $31 to pay for the fee

Bruh you got wayyyy more pressing issues then voting.

You mfers in here would have people believe there's a large percentage of Black Americans living like newly released slaves during the Reconstruction era :mjlol:



Why Do Many Minorities Lack ID?​


Investigating one of the big factors in the debate over those new voter-ID laws.​

BY FORREST WICKMAN

AUG 21, 20126:40 PM

Identification in wallet.

The most common voter ID is a driver’s license, and minorities are less likely to drive

Photograph by Medioimages/Photodisc.

The Justice Department notified the commonwealth of Virginia on Monday night that it would not object to its new voter ID law. The Virginia requirement is just the latest such law at the center of a heated debate leading up to the 2012 election, with Republicans generally supporting the laws as a means to prevent voter fraud, while Democrats allege that the laws will disenfranchise minorities, who less often have valid IDs. Why do minorities have fewer IDs?

Because a lot of minorities don’t have much use for them. The most common voter ID is a driver’s license, and minorities are less likely to drive. A 2007 study found that in California, New Mexico, and Washington, whites were more likely to have driver’s licenses than nonwhites. In Orange County, Calif., about 92 percent of white voters had driver’s licenses, compared with only 84 percent of Latino voters and 81 percent of “other” voters. A 2005 study of Wisconsin similarly found that while about 80 percent of white residents had licenses, only about half of African-American and Hispanic residents had licenses.

Minorities are less likely to have driver’s licenses because they are more likely to be poor and to live in urban areas. If you can’t afford a car, or if you don’t need one because you take the bus or subway, you are less likely to have a driver’s license. Students are less likely to have driver’s licenses for the same reasons (plus the fact that they can sometimes rely on student IDs, and may just have not gotten around to getting a driver’s license yet). Moreover, minorities may be more likely to have lost their driver’s licenses: The Wisconsin study found that an estimated 8 percent of Hispanic adults and 17 percent of African-American adults had no current license but had a recent suspension or revocation. Almost half of suspended driver’s licenses were due to failure to pay outstanding fines, which may explain why poor people are less likely to have licenses.

Driver’s licenses are not the only accepted forms of identification, but minorities may face extra challenges in securing other legally valid IDs. Passports, military IDs, and other government-issued photo ID are generally accepted, and some states accept student ID cards from state universities. Texas accepts concealed-weapons licenses, but New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice points out that African-Americans are also less likely to have these concealed-gun permits. For voters who need to secure a valid ID, tracking down the necessary documents—such as a birth certificate and social security card—can take time and money, and the Brennan Center additionally reports that many voting centers are far away from minority voters and are rarely open. Minorities also move from state to state more frequently, which makes meeting varying requirements for documentation more difficult, and Hispanics often use different naming customs, which can make for additional confusion at the DMV or voting booth. Additionally, the Brennan Center suggests that minority voters are more likely to be carded at the polls.

Of course, minority voters aren’t the only group likely to be disenfranchised. Seniors, for example, are also less likely to drive. Academic studies suggest that voter ID laws do probably reduce turnout, both among Democrats and Republicans, but not by more than about 2 percent.

Got a question about today’s news? Ask the Explainer.

Explainer thanks Charles S. Bullock III of the University of Georgia, Gabriel Sanchez of the University of New Mexico, Carol M. Swain of Vanderbilt University, and David C. Wilson of the University of Delaware.





APRIL 14, 2023

Editors' notes

Report shows young people, people of color less likely to have valid photo identification​

by University of Maryland


Millions of voting-age Americans lack a current government-issued photo ID, even as a growing number of states enact new or stricter voter ID requirements, according to an analysis released today by University of Maryland researchers and a leading voting rights organization.

The report from UMD's Center for Democracy and Civic Engagement (CDCE) and VoteRiders, which focuses on ID education and assistance, analyzed data from the American National Election Studies' 2020 Time-Series Study, a survey of voting-age Americans' political attitudes and behaviors. Researchers zeroed in on responses about possession of a non-expired driver's license, U.S. passport or other form of valid, government-issued photo ID, and found deep disparities.

"With the demographics most likely to lack valid voter ID being among the fastest-growing demographic groups in the country—including young people, people of color and particularly young people of color—the potential for voter ID laws to keep more eligible citizens from casting a ballot is likely to rise as well as we head toward the 2024 elections and beyond," said Michael Hanmer, CDCE director, professor of government and politics and a co-author of the analysis.

Overall, 36 states have a law that requires or requests voters to show a form of ID before they cast their ballots. Since the 2020 elections, 16 states have enacted new ID laws or added restrictions to their existing ID laws. Voter ID laws passed after the 2020 elections in North Carolina and Montana are also currently being litigated in their respective state supreme courts.

"This data reinforces how the shifting landscape of state-level voter ID laws creates confusion and challenges for millions of Americans seeking to make their voices heard in our democracy, something our staff working on the ground across the country see firsthand every day," said Lauren Kunis, CEO and executive director of VoteRiders. "As states rapidly pass new and stricter voter ID laws, ensuring that voters are informed about these changes and have help accessing the IDs they need to cast their ballots has never been more important."

Key findings include:

  • Nearly 29 million voting-age U.S. citizens lacked a valid driver's license and more than 7 million had no other form of non-expired government-issued photo identification.
  • In states with strict photo identification laws in 2020, more than 3 million voting-age U.S. citizens did not have a current driver's license, and more than 1 million did not have a non-expired government-issued photo identification.
  • More than 11 million people ages 18–29 did not have a current driver's license, and more than 3 million did not have any unexpired government issued photo ID.
  • Members of underrepresented racial and ethnic groups were less likely to have a current driver's license or other government-issued photo ID. An estimated 1.86 million Black non-Hispanic Americans (6.2%) and 1.86 million Hispanic Americans (6.1%) lack a photo ID, as do 4.5% of those who identify as Native American, Native Alaskan or another race. This compares to just 2.3% of White non-Hispanic Americans and 1.6% of Asian, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander Americans.
  • Individuals with a high school degree or less were the least likely of people of all educational levels to have a current driver's license or any photo ID. More than 18.5 million people who did not complete high school or whose highest level of education is a high school degree did not have a driver's license.
  • The analysis found a strong relationship between income and lack of a driver's license, with adult Americans who earn less than $30,000 lacking a driver's license at a rate about five times greater than the highest income category of $100,000 or more.
  • Those who were not registered and those who did not vote in 2020 were far more likely to lack a current driver's license and any photo ID. Adult Americans who were not registered to vote were three times more likely to lack a driver's license (30%) than those who were registered (11%). The results were similar when comparing 2020 non-voters to 2020 voters, demonstrating the disproportionate barrier that voter ID laws may create for non-voters or infrequent voters, as well as new or first-time voters.
Provided by University of Maryland


 
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