Did Rick Ross Actually Win His Beef With 50 Cent in Hindsight, or Are We Witnessing More Revisionist History?

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Ross won a couple of battles but ultimately 50 won the war
Ross made BMF a hot song 50 made it a hot TV series
These guys not even competing on the same plane so it's kind of silly to limit the war to who did better musically when it's clear 50 was transitioning to bigger and better things. 50 had just got millions from Vitamin water while Ross was trying keep MMG afloat, survive assassination attempts in his own backyard, and recoup from his strokes and health issues :dead:
He gets money no doubt but this perception that Ross is doing better than 50 in 2023 is wild
THIS
....i just can't support or give props to a CO...i just can't lol

And Ross has NEVER in his life made a song that had substance. Not once. At least I can say 50 has multiple times...
AND THIS
50 is the highest selling artist with an MMG chain. His tour he on is the highest selling by an artist who owns an MMG chain. What can Ross say to beat that?
AND THIS :mjlol:
 

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No one in here forgot the Big Mel situation, and how you defended that CAC using the N word. :ufdup:

You defending a crab in a barrel 50 Cent, calling him "Real Hip Hop" and the 4 pillars while you claiming to be a Civil Rights fighter is telling where your mindstate at.

What can 50 do to make mainstream black music better in 2024 and beyond when Puff, Jimmy Iovine, and Doug Morris are out the paint? :jbhmm:
More skimming.


I guess I have to dispel.

this false narrative like the last fake ass goofie.
who said shyt outta turn about this subject and failed to read.
Now.

Say some more bullshyt.
so I can up the response and clown you even more.


To show you do not even read and make up a false narrative. For sensationalism to cover up.
Your lack of any knowledge on the subject.


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This battle is a tricky one and most ppl are gonna pull out valid points that support who they like the most

To be honest, Ross started the fake beef with 50 around the time 50’s music had already declined… but ppl will swear that his music started declining during the Ross feud if they like Ross more

If anything, I’d say Ross survived.. it’s hard to say if either of them won. Ross throws more random jabs out there overtime but overall, 50 and his team have done more disrespectful shyt. When it comes to the online antics, we don’t even have to go into detail on 50 already one upped him in that category.

The best diss record out of this feud came from Lloyd Banks so you can’t credit that to Ross or 50. I remember Ross said he had a crazy diss record called Schindlers List but it never dropped.

50 could still pull Gunplay’s MMG chain out if he wanted to but I think 50 would rather continue to dissect Diddy. This is the first time I’ve seen 50 give Ross any attention in over a year and Ross baits 50 every 1-2 months

Some ppl like to credit Ross as the victor because musically he was reaching his prime in terms of album making… but idk what that has to do with the feud itself

Imo.
Ross had this beef orchestrated.
To cover up Ross failed. To ramp Trina up in the recording of magic stick.
Where the Trina takes for candy shop were called wack.


That is where I think this beef Ross lost and orchestrated came from.


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No one in here forgot the Big Mel situation, and how you defended that CAC using the N word. :ufdup:

You defending a crab in a barrel 50 Cent, calling him "Real Hip Hop" and the 4 pillars while you claiming to be a Civil Rights fighter is telling where your mindstate at.

What can 50 do to make mainstream black music better in 2024 and beyond when Puff, Jimmy Iovine, and Doug Morris are out the paint? :jbhmm:
Why don't you have the same energy for Kanye?



here he is feeding a white man, yet you only seem to have energy for fif?
 

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Reading through other replies further validates my previous points

If you like Ross more, you’ll bring up reasons why he won.. if you like 50 more, vice versa

One thing I don’t factor into their feud that others seem to be doing quite a bit is the quality of music that had NOTHING to do with the feud. 50’s music declined well before Ross baited him but ppl like saying Ross won because he was making great albums.

I just don’t understand how when ppl judge a feud like Kiss vs Beans, they judge it off the material they put out directly against each other but when it comes to 50 vs Ross, ppl judge it based off who has more money and the music they put out that had nothing to do with the feud

If we bein honest, ppl say 50 beat Ja based off what he threw at him.. but Ja still had a few hits during that feud…. Why judge Ross vs 50 differently?

The winner of a rap feud normally boils down to who blemished who the most or put out the better disses…. Its unrealistic to think Ross wasn’t going anywhere musically with uprising Drake, prime Wayne, Jay Z and Khaled features in his backpocket while 50 was also semi feuding with 3 of the 4 I just mentioned
 

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Why don't you have the same energy for Kanye?



here he is feeding a white man, yet you only seem to have energy for fif?


Kanye been a c00n since 2016 and him worshipping Trump, but I can never recall him going after other black men and ruining their careers on some KKK shyt.
 

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Even when Kanye became a c00n, he helped more black people than 50 ever will. You hate that fact that Curtis has been a net negative for black musicians like what @3rdWorld said
Breh, ya trying to hard now. I worked for G Unit as a sound engineer before my current role at TMWRK, I was a 17 year old who just needed a shot, 50 gave me one, via the shadyville nikkas, youtube G classics the 50 tape, my first project. Then tell me again how 50 ain't helping black people again. You won't, doesn't fit ya lies, you get dap from the clown who claims Footlocker is the best sneaker spot in bk and is a known racist.
 

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Yes, Ross won musically. 50 was dropping trash ass songs. 50 did a lot of outside of music shyt but it wasn’t really affecting Ross momentum. Ross was dropping heaters during that time period.
 

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Yes, Ross won musically. 50 was dropping trash ass songs. 50 did a lot of outside of music shyt but it wasn’t really affecting Ross momentum. Ross was dropping heaters during that time period.

50s biggest problem with Ross, was Ross wasnt afraid of him despite him having been a c.o.
The bully persona tactic 50 relies on didn't stick with Ross, and threw him off because Ross showed him he had zero respect for him and it could go all the way.
Ask the Dogg Pound about beef with unassuming Florida rappers :pachaha:
Musically, there was a period Ross series of tapes ruled and were of far higher quality than 50s official albums. :snoop:
 

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Y'all nikkas saying Ross won is crazy. Not only did he put the beats on Gunplay, he went to Khaled's mother's job with French filming, he was around his son and exposed his baby mother. Even exposed him as a damn C.O. who lied about his raps. Cmon y'all, Ross just wasn't a factor enough for people to care but that would have ended most rappers. He was able to fly by the radar because he was mid tier and rap was changing, less about authenticity.

Ross never seen the heights of TI and Jeezy and if he did his moment was much shorter than theirs.
 

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50s biggest problem with Ross, was Ross wasnt afraid of him despite him having been a c.o.
The bully persona tactic 50 relies on didn't stick with Ross, and threw him off because Ross showed him he had zero respect for him and it could go all the way.
Ask the Dogg Pound about beef with unassuming Florida rappers :pachaha:
Musically, there was a period Ross series of tapes ruled and were of far higher quality than 50s official albums. :snoop:

He was actually doing the Pimping Curly skits on Ross. He was embarrassing him with a lot of the outside music stuff. Ross did a great job managing his response though. But, if 50 music match what he was doing outside of the record then it would’ve been bad for Ross.
 
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