Did Rick Ross Actually Win His Beef With 50 Cent in Hindsight, or Are We Witnessing More Revisionist History?

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There was no war. When people say, "well, he won the war", they are essentially conceding that he took an L. Anything outside of the music is irrelevant and is gossip, blog worthy topics. The music is the bread and butter. You brought up vitamin water and strokes. LOL.
Lol what “war” did 50 win? Ross had him scared to drop an album for half a decade then promptly outsold TWICE in 2015 when 50 thought the coast was clear. Gimme a break.
 

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Ross is respected in his hometown his whip got shot up in and crashed?
Didn't 50 have to bullet proof his cars & wasn't able to go to his own hood for hella yrs what does any this have to do with anything

Ross the fake gangsta & ex CO been smashing & shyttin on all these so-called realest nikkas in hip hop even nikkas from his city since the early 2000s & nothing never happened no fingers laid on, no jewels took, no stories anywhere lol

50 didnt do anything but use what was available (which was a alot) no real research just weak diss records, extra jokes, funny cartoons & videos but he won the war lol
 

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Lol what “war” did 50 win? Ross had him scared to drop an album for half a decade then promptly outsold TWICE in 2015 when 50 thought the coast was clear. Gimme a break.
What war did Ross win? his man got handled, Ross tried to deflect and said lets keep it on wax then ducked Banks when G unit took it to wax. 50 has an MMG chain, Ross has what?
 

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Didn't 50 have to bullet proof his cars & wasn't able to go to his own hood for hella yrs what does any this have to do with anything

Ross the fake gangsta & ex CO been smashing & shyttin on all these so-called realest nikkas in hip hop even nikkas from his city since the early 2000s & nothing never happened no fingers laid on, no jewels took, no stories anywhere lol

50 didnt do anything but use what was available (which was a alot) no real research just weak diss records, extra jokes, funny cartoons & videos but he won the battle lol
No Jewels took? Ain't there an MMG chain in a gunit music video? Knox took that chain on tour. Maybe Ross should have bulletproofed the whip, he got shot up, tried to flee and crashed. The GDs were openly taunting him in videos with crossbows and rpgs, then Ross had to cancel his tour coz he was scared
 

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He def did not and went to weird lengths to fukk with Ross by fukking and making a sextape with his BM. Did he ever pay the money from the lawsuit?
 

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nikka this is deflection.

Again.

You know so much about hiphop.
What chu write.

Oh I thought so.
Just stop the fake posturing like you actualized and know facts about the subject. When you do not.
If you knew so much about hiphop and a revolutionary.
Why is it you do not know the black guy who beat eminem.


So stop the bullshyt.
Yousa Rick Ross stan and a gateway aftermath pop fan. who got sent off and no real credible cultural anything.
to stand on as far as real life cultural anything.

How dare you not know any of the subject matter. Yet try to keep up this fake ass front. flaug'n like you know hiphop. When you do not.

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No one in here forgot the Big Mel situation, and how you defended that CAC using the N word. :ufdup:

You defending a crab in a barrel 50 Cent, calling him "Real Hip Hop" and the 4 pillars while you claiming to be a Civil Rights fighter is telling where your mindstate at.

What can 50 do to make mainstream black music better in 2024 and beyond when Puff, Jimmy Iovine, and Doug Morris are out the paint? :jbhmm:
 

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People(especially on this site) equate ross surviving and thriving after everything as him "beating" 50 even tho we can go down a list of disrespectful shyt 50 did to him but cant say what exactly ross did within the actual beef that hurt 50, and I say this as somebody who thinks the swaggerless munkey rants were hilarious but it wasnt moving the needle like that.. and the baby mama suing happened years after the fact

even from a diss track perspective 50 got him, mafia music was a great song but only 1 bar out of that whole 4 minute song addressed 50 but nikkas on here act like it was "hit em up"

its like saying drake beat pusha because drake continued to succeed and pusha isnt doing anything noteworthy even tho pusha bodied him

its simply the fact that after all the Ls 50 handed him he managed to not go under and actually elevated through making successful commercial records while 50 personally struggled to maintain musical relevance, thats the only reason nikkas run with the "ross won" narrative
The problem with comparing this to Drake and Push is that both those artists maintained the exact same standing they already had. Drake simply got dressed down on wax and his lack of response proved he was too corporate in both strategy and creative process to be considered a true heavyweight, which some already felt after Quentin Miller.

Meanwhile, as you said, 50 struggled and ultimately lost musical relevance, while Ross ascended lyrically, musically, and by extension culturally. It's hard to say the man who ascended lost the war to the man who fell off. If 50 and Ross were both consistent gold/platinum artists before and after 2010, I'd agree with you.
 

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No Jewels took? Ain't there an MMG chain in a gunit music video? Knox took that chain on tour. Maybe Ross should have bulletproofed the whip, he got shot up, tried to flee and crashed. The GDs were openly taunting him in videos with crossbows and rpgs, then Ross had to cancel his tour coz he was scared
Dude gunplay got jumped in a weird ass situation 50 didn't run down on him & at least he got some licks in & his chain was gonna fall off regardless

It was nothing ross or gunplay could do about that situation but do what most rappers do look broke & try to get the chain back somehow but we all know 50 was gonna keep it

Gunplay would've looked weak had he gotten the chain back anyway

Mike Knox just picked up the chain dudes a bum hopefully 50 let him pawn it

If them GDs really wanted to make a statement they would've ran up on him like they do them other rappers but they rather post dumb ass videos, promoting their weak music while snitching on themselves

Of course they canceled the shows why would any concert promoters see those videos & not be concerned

And I'm talking about ross himself being touched not this internet mess all these tough guy rapper's getting ran up own, getting stripped & stumped or getting punked but no smoke for the fake ex cop lol
 
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The problem with comparing this to Drake and Push is that both those artists maintained the exact same standing they already had. Drake simply got dressed down on wax and his lack of response proved he was too corporate in both strategy and creative process to be considered a true heavyweight, which some already felt after Quentin Miller.

Meanwhile, as you said, 50 struggled and ultimately lost musical relevance, while Ross ascended lyrically, musically, and by extension culturally. It's hard to say the man who ascended lost the war to the man who fell off. If 50 and Ross were both consistent gold/platinum artists before and after 2010, I'd agree with you.
50s musical relevance had nothing to do with the ross beef though, he was trending downwards after losing to kanye and wouldve done the numbers he did on bisd whether he beefed with ross or not, "get up" and "I get it in" flopped before the ross beef, the problem is people try to attribute him losing musical relevance to ross and make it seem like ross did that damage to him when we all know thats not true

u can say ross won the war simply by surviving and thriving but from a battle/beef standpoint when it was actually going on he really did nothing significant to 50 for anybody to say "he bodied 50 and ended him!"
 

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50s musical relevance had nothing to do with the ross beef though, he was trending downwards after losing to kanye and wouldve done the numbers he did on bisd whether he beefed with ross or not, "get up" and "I get it in" flopped before the ross beef, the problem is people try to attribute him losing musical relevance to ross and make it seem like ross did that damage to him when we all know thats not true

u can say ross won the war simply by surviving and thriving but from a battle/beef standpoint when it was actually going on he really did nothing significant to 50 for anybody to say "he bodied 50 and ended him!"
I didn't say 50 falling was about the beef. It wasn't, and I don't believe Ross "bodied" 50, but it was at best a stalemate. It's hard to give you the W on the decline while the niqqa you pressing keeps elevating. Especially when you developed a reputation as a bully and career-ender.
 

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This battle is a tricky one and most ppl are gonna pull out valid points that support who they like the most

To be honest, Ross started the fake beef with 50 around the time 50’s music had already declined… but ppl will swear that his music started declining during the Ross feud if they like Ross more

If anything, I’d say Ross survived.. it’s hard to say if either of them won. Ross throws more random jabs out there overtime but overall, 50 and his team have done more disrespectful shyt. When it comes to the online antics, we don’t even have to go into detail on 50 already one upped him in that category.

The best diss record out of this feud came from Lloyd Banks so you can’t credit that to Ross or 50. I remember Ross said he had a crazy diss record called Schindlers List but it never dropped.

50 could still pull Gunplay’s MMG chain out if he wanted to but I think 50 would rather continue to dissect Diddy. This is the first time I’ve seen 50 give Ross any attention in over a year and Ross baits 50 every 1-2 months

Some ppl like to credit Ross as the victor because musically he was reaching his prime in terms of album making… but idk what that has to do with the feud itself
 

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fif lost on the music side & he will never get back

but he's just waiting for fat.boi to take some losses in life to double back & attack

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