Did NY hip hop ever make you want to be part of the 5%er's?

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this is sloppy rhetoric. You actually compared a dietary belief to being a prisoner Thats way off....A prisoner is someone with physical limitations. Lord Jamar at any point right now can physically go to a store and order a ham sandwhich if he choses to do so and eat that ham sandwhich if he choses to do so. You failed to acknowledge that Objetcivism also recognizes that in the pursuit of happiness one is also to be held responsible for his own actions. This is the foundation of discipline...A dietary discipline wether it be religious or self perscribed is in no way the same as being a prisoner.









But I do agree with you that the 5% beliefs and Objectivism are totally different. Ayn Rand wouldn't co sign the concept of whitemen being created by an evil scientist on an Island.
wrong. I simply explained my point based on the gentleman's level of understanding. Dietary...mental...sexual prison. whichever you wish to choose. Is woven into the fabric of religion. It is not present in the idea of objectivism. And while i'm guessing you read somewhere that the objectivist realizes that when pursuing ones own happiness they are to be held responsible for their actions....I must again correct you. Your happiness comes from the action itself. The action is the joy. The two are not separate. That's why the idea of discipline is objective. you state it as such because it is relative to the way the masses think and act and view ideas such as mental and physical discipline. The purely conscious objective observer makes no resignation for their ability or lack of ability or for doing what they feel like doing. I never stated that the 5%er doesn't have the ability to eat the bacon sandwhich. The fact is that the 5%er feels guilt for eating the swine. This is not present in the mind of the objectivist.
 

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But I do agree with you that the 5% beliefs and Objectivism are totally different. Ayn Rand wouldn't co sign the concept of whitemen being created by an evil scientist on an Island.


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AYN RAND just like yourself haven't a clue as to what the "120 lessons" was trying to convey...

the 120 lessons were an ALLEGORY ...everything and I do mean everything is SYMBOLIC..as it states .."TAKE NOTHING ON FACE VALUE"

The evil big headed scientist was named YAKUB..the big head represented EGO......The island was patmos a place of ISOLATION and exile meaning that EVIL is so far removed from your ORIGINAL state..that to DEVIATE from your ORIGINAL STATE would make one a DEVIL...

YAKUB which is Arabic for JACOB was the perfect CHARACTER for this "story" because his characteristics were evil..he was known as a SUPPLANTER who stole ESAU's BIRTHRIGHT..which was symbolic to European society basically stealing and exploting the culture of the Blackman.

Western Society along with Capitilisim and those subscribing to the 4 devils (lust, greed, envy, hate) were DEVILS.........

all this is ESOTERIC LANGUAGE that you fail to comprehend......the LITERAL were the RELIGIOUS and were just being swindiled into thinking that......

that's always been the general rule of ESOTERIC CATECHISMs within the nation, the craft of masonry and other schools of thought to SEPERATE the LITERAL (PROFANE) blind FOLLOWERES from the ENLIGHTENGED ESOTERIC BENEATH THE SURFACE THINKERS (the WORTHY 5%)

" even in the 5% nation their is a 5%"- Kofi Allah
 

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AYN RAND just like yourself haven't a clue as to what the "120 lessons" was trying to convey...

the 120 lessons were an ALLEGORY ...everything and I do mean everything is SYMBOLIC..as it states .."TAKE NOTHING ON FACE VALUE"

The evil big headed scientist was named YAKUB..the big head represented EGO......The island was patmos a place of ISOLATION and exile meaning that EVIL is so far removed from your ORIGINAL state..that to DEVIATE from your ORIGINAL STATE would make one a DEVIL...

YAKUB which is Arabic for JACOB was the perfect CHARACTER for this "story" because his characteristics were evil..he was known as a SUPPLANTER who stole ESAU's BIRTHRIGHT..which was symbolic to European society basically stealing and exploting the culture of the Blackman.

Western Society along with Capitilisim and those subscribing to the 4 devils (lust, greed, envy, hate) were DEVILS.........

all this is ESOTERIC LANGUAGE that you fail to comprehend......the LITERAL were the RELIGIOUS and were just being swindiled into thinking that......

that's always been the general rule of ESOTERIC CATECHISMs within the nation, the craft of masonry and other schools of thought to SEPERATE the LITERAL (PROFANE) blind FOLLOWERES from the ENLIGHTENGED ESOTERIC BENEATH THE SURFACE THINKERS (the WORTHY 5%)

" even in the 5% nation their is a 5%"- Kofi Allah


Dude...don;t give me that symbolic bullsh*t....I'm actually defending a position I really don't believe in and here you come...... Did you ever even go to the School Of Allah? There's one on 127th and 7th and one in the Medina section of Brooklyn not to far from the Junius St stop on the 3 train....Did you actually physically go to the school and was given the 1 - 10's and told to go home and memorize them and come back and recite what you remember???You know why I ask that? Because I remember in 94 and 95 going to the school and actually seeing things for myself. Do you remember how dirty they used to keep it in there?? LOL....You're gonna make me go in.....I'm to stuck in reality to be verbally swindled by bullsh*t....I'm quick to defend the 5% Nation and the NOI for the sake of Black history but if any of their fanatics ever try to side swipe me in any way then I'll start telling the truth....I can tell you about brothers leaving after the 2 o clock meetings to go smoke blunts. I can tell you about the hypocracy I saw with my own eyes...Dont come in my direction with 'esoteric' bullsh*t when you see me defending something I dont even believe in. I mean we could go there if you want...
I've heard with my own ears elders speaking on how Clearance 13 X had them kids jumping people.....Do you really wanan go there?
 

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Dude...don;t give me that symbolic bullsh*t....I'm actually defending a position I really don't believe in and here you come...... Did you ever even go to the School Of Allah? There's one on 127th and 7th and one in the Medina section of Brooklyn not to far from the Junius St stop on the 3 train....Did you actually physically go to the school and was given the 1 - 10's and told to go home and memorize them and come back and recite what you remember???You know why I ask that? Because I remember in 94 and 95 going to the school and actually seeing things for myself. Do you remember how dirty they used to keep it in there?? LOL....You're gonna make me go in.....I'm to stuck in reality to be verbally swindled by bullsh*t....I'm quick to defend the 5% Nation and the NOI for the sake of Black history but if any of their fanatics ever try to side swipe me in any way then I'll start telling the truth....I can tell you about brothers leaving after the 2 o clock meetings to go smoke blunts. I can tell you about the hypocracy I saw with my own eyes...Dont come in my direction with 'esoteric' bullsh*t when you see me defending something I dont even believe in. I mean we could go there if you want...
I've heard with my own ears elders speaking on how Clearance 13 X had them kids jumping people.....Do you really wanan go there?


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Dude...don;t give me that symbolic bullsh*t....I'm actually defending a position I really don't believe in and here you come...... Did you ever even go to the School Of Allah? There's one on 127th and 7th and one in the Medina section of Brooklyn not to far from the Junius St stop on the 3 train....Did you actually physically go to the school and was given the 1 - 10's and told to go home and memorize them and come back and recite what you remember???You know why I ask that? Because I remember in 94 and 95 going to the school and actually seeing things for myself. Do you remember how dirty they used to keep it in there?? LOL....You're gonna make me go in.....I'm to stuck in reality to be verbally swindled by bullsh*t....I'm quick to defend the 5% Nation and the NOI for the sake of Black history but if any of their fanatics ever try to side swipe me in any way then I'll start telling the truth....I can tell you about brothers leaving after the 2 o clock meetings to go smoke blunts. I can tell you about the hypocracy I saw with my own eyes...Dont come in my direction with 'esoteric' bullsh*t when you see me defending something I dont even believe in. I mean we could go there if you want...
I've heard with my own ears ers speaking on how Clearance 13 X had them kids jumping people.....Do you really wanan go there?

we all know the father snorted coke and smoked dope and drank..
we all know fights outside the allah school, shyt I saw plenty and witnessed white folks getting shytted on and shoved on the pavement, those who wanted to seek advice from the down trodden angel of death AZRL. do u have any relatives or close a-alikes over there?
I will tell u something G, was you there when the battle happened with the nuwaubians in 95? it went on for a good few months.
If you was there around 95..u know Shamir J Allah??
 

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Dude...don;t give me that symbolic bullsh*t....I'm actually defending a position I really don't believe in and here you come...... Did you ever even go to the School Of Allah? There's one on 127th and 7th and one in the Medina section of Brooklyn not to far from the Junius St stop on the 3 train....Did you actually physically go to the school and was given the 1 - 10's and told to go home and memorize them and come back and recite what you remember???You know why I ask that? Because I remember in 94 and 95 going to the school and actually seeing things for myself. Do you remember how dirty they used to keep it in there?? LOL....You're gonna make me go in.....I'm to stuck in reality to be verbally swindled by bullsh*t....I'm quick to defend the 5% Nation and the NOI for the sake of Black history but if any of their fanatics ever try to side swipe me in any way then I'll start telling the truth....I can tell you about brothers leaving after the 2 o clock meetings to go smoke blunts. I can tell you about the hypocracy I saw with my own eyes...Dont come in my direction with 'esoteric' bullsh*t when you see me defending something I dont even believe in. I mean we could go there if you want...
I've heard with my own ears elders speaking on how Clearance 13 X had them kids jumping people.....Do you really wanan go there?


I see that you were HURT and somewhat DISGRUNTLED over what you witnessed

but rest assured. blaming others for your lack of understanding wont get u anywhere

if u focused on SELF as it is taught you wouldnt have gone astray

i dwelled amongst. THE TRUE AND LIVING

not with the ROGUE ELEMENTS. OF THE NATION

so i can't relate

My experiences at the school was quite pleasant :blessed:


For it is MAN WOMAN AND CHILD...that's the TRUE NATION OF GODS AND EARTH

which is ones OWN FAMILY

but you dont wanna hear that SYMBOLIC SH1T you rather focus on the blunts and other SENSATIONAL aspects THAT YOU SOUGHT FOR YOUR OWN INTREST

so perhaps the problem is not the nation but Y.O.U (YOUR OWN UNIVERSE) :ohhh:
 

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I see that you were HURT and somewhat DISGRUNTLED over what you witnessed

but rest assured. blaming others for your lack of understanding wont get u anywhere

if u focused on SELF as it is taught you wouldnt have gone astray

i dwelled amongst. THE TRUE AND LIVING

not with the ROGUE ELEMENTS. OF THE NATION

so i can't relate

My experiences at the school was quite pleasant :blessed:


For it is MAN WOMAN AND CHILD...that's the TRUE NATION OF GODS AND EARTH

which is ones OWN FAMILY

but you dont wanna hear that SYMBOLIC SH1T you rather focus on the blunts and other SENSATIONAL aspects THAT YOU SOUGHT FOR YOUR OWN INTREST

so perhaps the problem is not the nation but Y.O.U (YOUR OWN UNIVERSE) :ohhh:

to call a man that see's blind, while you're covering your eyes is foolish. The teachings are fairy tales just like the bible etc. we all know this. :sitdown:






but the shyt is entertaining :pachaha:
 

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to call a man that see's blind, while you're covering your eyes is foolish. The teachings are fairy tales just like the bible etc. we all know this. :sitdown:






but the shyt is entertaining :pachaha:

well if your DUMB ENOUGH to actually take the BIBLE, QURAN, 120 lessons...101 keys and TORAH litearly then the JOKE IS ON YOU :russ:

first of all learn to comprehend the term ALLEGORY before making such a idiotic statement...

King James was a master mason raised in the same lodge as dramatic prose writer Francis Bacon

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/james_vi/james_vi.html

Fard Muhammad and Elijah were masonic travelers and actually Fard was a muslim son (shriner) of the Asiatic Brethren rank prior to his initiation into the Moorish Science system....

so they were well verse in making the characters such as Yakub....H.I.R.A.M and TUBAL CAIN (Two Balls and a Cane) convey a double meaning in spite of the fact they were NOT literal figures....

I can't convice you of that..and i'm not here for IDEOLOGY ..the NATION never force or prostylized to anyone...people SEEK the nation out...

but regardless OUR contribution to HIP HOP golden era cannot be denied..and that's ONE ISSUE YOUR BLACK A$$ cannot deny


P.E.A.C.E
 

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well if your DUMB ENOUGH to actually take the BIBLE, QURAN, 120 lessons...101 keys and TORAH litearly then the JOKE IS ON YOU :russ:

first of all learn to comprehend the term ALLEGORY before making such a idiotic statement...

King James was a master mason raised in the same lodge as dramatic prose writer Francis Bacon

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/james_vi/james_vi.html

Fard Muhammad and Elijah were masonic travelers and actually Fard was a muslim son (shriner) of the Asiatic Brethren rank prior to his initiation into the Moorish Science system....

so they were well verse in making the characters such as Yakub....H.I.R.A.M and TUBAL CAIN (Two Balls and a Cane) convey a double meaning in spite of the fact they were NOT literal figures....

I can't convice you of that..and i'm not here for IDEOLOGY ..the NATION never force or prostylized to anyone...people SEEK the nation out...

but regardless OUR contribution to HIP HOP golden era cannot be denied..and that's ONE ISSUE YOUR BLACK A$$ cannot deny


P.E.A.C.E
:beli: man..fukk all that mumbo jumbo breh. 5% zulu nation shyt is for the bushes. Didn't Bambata rape mad lil boys?

fukk from round me with that. And I give two shyts about any of that shyt you just named. Peep earlier in the thread. Long story short. I don't want to join a fake religion because of music.
 
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