Did NY hip hop ever make you want to be part of the 5%er's?
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Durrbrowski
Durrbrowski
okay i'll be nice. basically.
NGE = I AM A GOD. Peace Gawd Moors etc etc religious rhetoric to reinforce my superiority. I was born to be great.
Objectivism = I'm a human being who lives on earth and breathes oxygen. and also (if im lucky) I have 5 senses to take in my surroundings. I have 4 limbs for movement, and also they come in hand when I want to obtain food that the earth around me provides when i am hungry. I am very interested in (whatever desire,or field of work,study) and will use the tools around me to obtain this goal.
..no similarity in beliefs on the individual breh.
NGE = I AM A GOD. Peace Gawd Moors etc etc religious rhetoric to reinforce my superiority. I was born to be great.
Objectivism = I'm a human being who lives on earth and breathes oxygen. and also (if im lucky) I have 5 senses to take in my surroundings. I have 4 limbs for movement, and also they come in hand when I want to obtain food that the earth around me provides when i am hungry. I am very interested in (whatever desire,or field of work,study) and will use the tools around me to obtain this goal.
..no similarity in beliefs on the individual breh.
Durrbrowski
Durrbrowski
c00ns gonna c00n
You also left out the belief that the individual's desires are always correct in Objectivism but you don't see the similarity in those statements? One is secular of course and not wrapped in a nice ribbon is all
Ayn Rand's audience was more educated and White. All the narrative stuff is based on the audience you're trying to please. Pump up the Black man with tales of their long lost empires and how a food source they they relied on during slavery is vile. It enthralls them and makes them apt to learn the lessons. All religions do this but with something like 5% as opposed to say Christianity is that it alllows for the individual to dictate and not some person in the sky.
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Elle Driver
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I grew up around the Nation of Gods and Earths, I liked what they were about so much so that they influenced me to seek knowledge in other religions. I never wanted to be apart of them though, hip hop did kind of make them more well known (RZA).
Durrbrowski
Durrbrowski
the more educated and white excuse is in essence, objective. This was not her goal. She spoke about race as a limiting factor and a man made distraction from one reaching his final goal of obtaining perfection. this among other things. I personally don't care about her rhetoric in the beginning.though I empathize with a lot of her beliefs. And I find it funny that she is always linked to the Right side of our government and conservatism/libertarianism. It's an oxymoron. But politics in relation to this belief is a whole different topic. Comparing Objectivist to 5%er's is like comparing apples and oranges. Take religion out of the picture. The name says it all. Objectivist don't recognize groups such as a "Nation". And NGE members see the idea of a Nation (not in the natural boundary sense, but the human similarity sense) and collective thought and belief as the center of who they are. They then preach a belief in being a God and the original man (which is the individualism idea that you are trying to connect.).but It contradicts itself in the eyes of the Objectivist, which doesn't suffer from this same backward thinking. So Like repeated before. You are wrong. There is nothing similar about Objectivism and the 5% nation. but good attempt. you're getting better.You also left out the belief that the individual's desires are always correct in Objectivism but you don't see the similarity in those statements? One is secular of course and not wrapped in a nice ribbon is all
Ayn Rand's audience was more educated and White. All the narrative stuff is based on the audience you're trying to please. Pump up the Black man with tales of their long lost empires and how a food source they they relied on during slavery is vile. It enthralls them and makes them apt to learn the lessons. All religions do this but with something like 5% as opposed to say Christianity is that it alllows for the individual to dictate and not some person in the sky.
Durrbrowski
Durrbrowski
and also the individual does not dictate how he lives in the 5% nation. their core set of beliefs do. this doesn't exist for a person like me. So.. 
. not similar breh
. not similar breh
this is sloppy rhetoric. You actually compared a dietary belief to being a prisoner Thats way off....A prisoner is someone with physical limitations. Lord Jamar at any point right now can physically go to a store and order a ham sandwhich if he choses to do so and eat that ham sandwhich if he choses to do so. You failed to acknowledge that Objetcivism also recognizes that in the pursuit of happiness one is also to be held responsible for his own actions. This is the foundation of discipline...A dietary discipline wether it be religious or self perscribed is in no way the same as being a prisoner.
But I do agree with you that the 5% beliefs and Objectivism are totally different. Ayn Rand wouldn't co sign the concept of whitemen being created by an evil scientist on an Island.
Dude...Just stop. I've watch you stretch your bad comparison for to long. The Supreme Wisdom which was given to Elijah Muhammad was an attempt to reverse the thinking placed on the psyche of American Blacks by telling them that they are not inferior but that they are actually superior and that their hsitory is divine and not just slavery. The Supreme Wisdom was a 'Black thing".....Ayn Rand wasn't championing for Blacks only.... Elijah Muhammad also promoted the HolyQuran which stresses to submit ones will to Allah. Ayn Rand promoted the embracing of ones ego. You cant embrace your ego and submit to Allah at the same time...
I'm not talking about the Nation of Islam.
SMH...Thats the wrong answer....The more you talk the more you expose what you don't know. The Supreme Wisdom that is used by the Nation Of Gods And Earths was given to Elijah Muhammad. This is info that you should know already but u obviously don't. This is why in a physical conversation those who aren't A Alike wouldn't be allowed in the cypher. But the internet has changed things and here you are.
today math is wisdom knowledge all being Born to Understanding.PEACE.
You just repeated yourself. Ok Elijiah Muhammad was given The Supreme Wisdom but what does "Elijah Muhammad also promoted the HolyQuran which stresses to submit ones will to Allah" have to do with what we are talking about, if in fact Clarence 13X did have differences with The Nation? You seem to be implying that the teachings in NOI and 5%er are 1:1? If so, why the need to separate into a different group?
No disrespect but I could honestly care less about being allowed in the cypher. As I said earlier, 5% philosophy is for a certain group of people who may need those teachings to reach their full potential here on Earth. I'm not one of those people.
BlackDroog
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I like the way they speak and their general ideals of righteousness and self worth. I never wanted to join. I would love to read a good 5% book or watch a documentary. Any suggestions?
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Mike Muhammad knight the white gonzo journalist did research and put out two books, 5 percenters and why I a, a fivepercenter, he built and gave his trust to some elders then recently he started to criticize jamaar and wrote few things in an article..he cannot step anywhere near the allah school or he will get clapped.
Mike Muhammad knight the white gonzo journalist did research and put out two books, 5 percenters and why I a, a fivepercenter, he built and gave his trust to some elders then recently he started to criticize jamaar and wrote few things in an article..he cannot step anywhere near the allah school or he will get clapped.