"DESTINY" 2014-15 Chicago Bulls Season Thread

[wild100sboy]

Say the coach with second best win% in the league's bad qualities outweigh his good ones brehs.

Only look at numbers brehs. What about that playoff record though

 

[The G.O.D II]

You could say that for every single coach that's never won a championship, before they win one.

And to be perfectly honest, you could argue his 'style' had just as much influence on the Celtics winning that '08 ship as Doc's did.

No. Name me a coach that has won with basically a 6 man rotation in the playoffs? Name a coach that has players on the floor with negative PER for extended minutes win chips? You are right about Boston. He had an influence. He didnt have the authority. And to be honest he would be better off as an assistant

 

[Brozay]

If the Bulls FO went out and signed a proven wing player, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. That means he's lucky to be on the team.


I'm glad he's going, hopefully he ends up in the NO or on a franchise that actually gives him proper talent.

Hopefully he learns from his mistakes. Ill be rooting for him if he heads to the Western Conference

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The entire Snell discussion started because I said he should have been in for defensive purposes instead of Niko. Now you're going to act like I'm 'campaigning' for Snell like he's the savior for this teams woes. Stop it. For months Bulls fans who've watched this team have been calling for more Snell/Moore and less Kirk. For MONTHS. So you keep skipping directly to "personnel" being the problem and ignoring the fact that Thibs is playing a guy ahead of 2 guys who arguably would help the team more. You're skipping the fact that developing players also ties into team personnel. Should we go back and look in this thread at how many of us questioned why Thibs continuously gave Kirk minutes all season long?

Like I said this is a contender, Thibs shouldn't be expected to develop Snell into whatever player he might become. They don't have time to see whether he pans out or not. No coach in the league is expected to do this shyt. All three of those players shouldn't be on the team - playing one more than the others would still lead to the same result. I couldn't give a fukk if he should be in there instead of Niko for defensive purposes (I already stated how many buckets that Niko was responsible for and that Snell wouldn't have made a difference), this is a circular point to deflect away from the real issue.

You can't keep giving coaches projects to develop when there's a hundred better players out there to chose from who can make an immediate and lasting difference.

You already admitted that you agree, Snell would be a better option to defend CLE when they go small. You're shytting on Snell, but nothing was said about Hinrich until I brought the hypocrisy to your attention. I'm not lying about anything. I'm harping on Thibs not making common sense adjustments according to what the other team is doing. Leaving Niko in the game to defend Shumpert was stupid, not utilizing Snell for his defense when Jimmy had 2 fouls in the 1st half was stupid, playing Noah and Kirk for too long together is stupid.

Hypocrisy? I've been saying for the last few seasons that Kirk should be nowhere near this squad.

You have a problem with the way a coach manages lineups/minutes - get used to it - you'll be criticizing the next coach that comes after him, and the one after that and that one after that and so on and so forth until this franchise ceases to exit. Great coaches like great players are hard to come by, if one happens to come your way - you surround them with the best possible supporting cast you can assemble and hope for the best. That's all you can ever do in this league.

 

[Populair]

You dudes STILL talking about Thibs when we have a game to win tonight ?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Only look at numbers brehs. What about that playoff record though

What's that got to do with anything?

9 times out of 10 you'll always have a worse playoff record than regular season record. And is it any surprise that Thibs has a below .500 playoff record when there's been lineups like this for the last two postseasons -

Robinson/Hinrich
Belinelli
Butler (role player version) / Deng (only five games)
Boozer/Gibson
Noah


Hinrich/Augustin
Butler (role player version)
Dunleavy
Boozer/Gibson
Noah

with role players like Nazr, Radmanovic, Rip, Teague and Cook.

How many coaches would be able to win shyt with those lineups in the playoffs?

 

[Lootpack]

The NBA wants a Game 7, so we'll win tonight.

 

[360dagod]

The NBA wants a Game 7, so we'll win tonight.

If you guys lose this series, is it time for a rebuilding process?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

No. Name me a coach that has won with basically a 6 man rotation in the playoffs?

He had a 8-9 man rotation with the OG Bench Mob during that ECF run. Give him players that can contribute and he'll play them. Plenty of teams have won with limited rotations. Most of those Lakers 3-peat teams were built that way.

Name a coach that has players on the floor with negative PER for extended minutes win chips?

Name me a coach that has been expected to go deep in the playoffs with the level of talent that Thibs has been given?

 

[Brozay]

He had a 8-9 man rotation with the OG Bench Mob during that ECF run. Give him players that can contribute and he'll play them. Plenty of teams have won with limited rotations. Most of those Lakers 3-peat teams were built that way.

Name me a coach that has been expected to go deep in the playoffs with the level of talent that Thibs has been given?

the team has enough talent this year to make the Finals, period

we've talked ad nasuem in years past about not having enough backcourt talent, then Jimmy emerged

youre preaching to the choir, but this year, there arent any excuses

 

[Lootpack]

If you guys lose this series, is it time for a rebuilding process?

Thibs will be gone and Noah will most likely be traded, so yes.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

the team has enough talent this year to make the Finals, period

we've talked ad nasuem in years past about not having enough backcourt talent, then Jimmy emerged

youre preaching to the choir, but this year, there arent any excuses

I wasn't specifically talking about this season - but in the last few seasons - in regards to the team's talent he's had to lead.

I agree that a healthy Gasol, healthy Noah, healthy Rose and Butler is enough but that's also predicated on the other players showing up (which really doesn't have anything to do with Thibs). You've got Gibson that's regressed, a 6th man who can only provide so much impact and bunch of limited role players who're not quite at a level to give what's needed.

Let me ask you this, if Gasol was healthy for every game and Noah was playing like he was last season would this series already be over?

 

[3Rivers]

Let's get this win

 

[Brozay]

I wasn't specifically talking about this season - but in the last few seasons - in regards to the team's talent he's had to lead.

I agree that a healthy Gasol, healthy Noah, healthy Rose and Butler is enough but that's also predicated on the other players showing up (which really doesn't have anything to do with Thibs). You've got Gibson that's regressed, a 6th man who can only provide so much impact and bunch of limited role players who're not quite at a level to give what's needed.

Let me ask you this, if Gasol was healthy for every game and Noah was playing like he was last season would this series already be over?

Yes, definitely over

and we have talked about the failures of the front office to provide championship talent here, but they did it this year. I think Bulls fans know the Thibs era is over, and this is an easier way to cope with it. He certainly does have flaws in managing a rotation, making adjustments, and providing creativity on offense. That doesnt mean he isnt a great coach, its just the the issues have compounded these playoffs, and the writings already on the wall.

I think its safe to say most Bulls fans would like to keep Thibs here

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Let's just get to 7 brehs...