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@42 Monks @Tha Gawd Amen at least give bunige until the first two DLC maybe the first one with osiris to see how bungie will change the end game and if they will improve/add some really good things into the story... the first two DLC's will be telling if you will stay with them past year one :yeshrug:
 

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But you keep comparing this to Vanilla D1 which is such a cop out. That's like comparing and iPhone that takes away most of the features from the previous iteration amd saying but it has more than the original iPhone and once iOS12 drops in year we can then start comparing it to the the last. You keep comparing this to vanilla Destiny, and until you get passed that, you're going to continually cape for this shell of game just to drop an I told you so in 2019 when the rest of the content gets dropped. I dont want to go through the same experience of waiting for 3 years to fill out content when they figured most of this shyt out a year ago. I don't get why this game gets this luxury when any other game or industry for the matter wouldn't.

These are things that were in the TTK that could've been built upon to add some depth to this game
  • Strike Scoring with Leaderboards
  • Heroic Mode Strikes
  • Strike Specific Loot
  • Raid Loot with Raid specific Perks
  • Raid Challenges
  • Ability to choose what game mode you want to play in PvP
What's the point of doing the raid more than once or twice? What's the point of strikes in their current state? What's the point of doing Trials?

The whole let's dikk tease about what's coming next instead of focusing on what we have now thing that was apparent in the story and in the gameplay and has really getting old at this point. Why not deliver a ground breaking experience to make the consumer demand more?

it's not a cop out and i dont play that 'i told you so' game....as for the comparison to the iphone, that's not a good comparison, and a hell of a reach to try to make a point....the only thing they have in common is that there is a new number after the last one, that's it....

you're comparing d2 to a fully loaded d1 game like they were gonna put all that content into just the base game...that's unrealistic....destiny is showing the mmo part with the continuous adding of content to the world that's been established....thinking d2 was gonna be different was just setting yourself up to be disappointed.....if you didnt want to go along with the journey, you shouldve just waited till they release the edition with all the dlc in it....since you didnt want to wait, you knew what you were getting into...

as for things from ttk that you think shouldve been in the game:

- i agree about strike scoring...
- heroic strikes will probably come along with the hard raid....
- i agree about strike loot...
- i agree about raid gear...will probably come with hard raid too...
- raid challenges didnt come until the hard raid version of a raid was released in d1, i expect the same for d2...
- taking away ability to choose goes against the obvious grand plan bungie/activision has for destiny...they said they were gonna make it more casual, and making it where people just have pick between 2 modes does that...also, it gets people in games a lot faster.....

the point of doing anything in the game more than once is the same as it was for d1: cause you enjoy the experience, are having fun, and want to...completion-ists will do things over and over to get every piece of gear, helpers will do things over and over to help people, trials players will do trials cause they like the experience, and the rest will cause they enjoy playing the game....the same as d1....

yet they did deliver a ground breaking experience to make people want more....they did that with d1, hence why people were wanting d2 so much....also, it shows how fast people play through any new content that's added to the game cause they play for hours upon hours, non-stop.....

i get it, you and others want all the shyt fully loaded d1 had, and more....i do too, but just like a lot of the complaints about what people want in the game, to expect that in the base game of d2 is unrealistic and comes off as entitled...prime ex: people are actually on bungie boards complaining about loot saying shyt like ' i only get 1-2 exotic engrams a day, that's wrong, i should get more'...what the fukk?!?!?!....yall remember from d1 how it was before 3 of coins when it came to exotics, maybe 1-2 per week or so, yet muthafukkas complaining they getting that a day now....

...bungie has given us a lot in the base d2 game..they made improvements, addressed a lot of shyt people complained about in d1, and still made the game fun as hell to play...you may not want to believe it, but they delivered....
 

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I've been rocking with arc strider because I like their grenades and melee/dodge combo the best. I have lucky raspberry and because people likke to group up, it's perk procs a lot. The super is situational and find myself not using it games because how it easy it is to team shot it down though.
My thing with GS is that there's no optimal range, or deterrent, or real momentum builder for PvP anywhere in its skill tree.

With Arc, you don't even NEED to play upclose - but you have great tools at close range to always control space at a degree. Nightstalker shyts on both imo because of cloak and smoke.

Gunslinger is just.... what's the point? What's this class good at? No point saying super because that's twice a match - and even then, GG shots aren't even guaranteed shutdown kills like they used to be.
 

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@42 Monks @Tha Gawd Amen at least give bunige until the first two DLC maybe the first one with osiris to see how bungie will change the end game and if they will improve/add some really good things into the story... the first two DLC's will be telling if you will stay with them past year one :yeshrug:
If you can't criticize something you love... :yeshrug:
 

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unreleastic according to who @lutha?

according to realistic gamers.....if anyone thought the base d2 was gonna have all the content as the fully loaded d1 and more, was being unrealistic....no video game does that, even if it's the sequel....
 

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If you can't criticize something you love... :yeshrug:
nah you can Criticize i agree with @Tha Gawd Amen points 100% and i agree with yours .. and a lot of D1 vets i personally play with feel the same way right now as @Tha Gawd Amen , and i am starting to feel it, but you have to understand Destiny 2 Seems to be aimed more at the casual gamers then the hardcore ones who stayed with destiny for the three years :yeshrug: i am giving bunige the first two DLC's .... if the first two DLC's are like the dark below and HOW i might just wait for reviews for year 2 of destiny 2 before i cop
 

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according to realistic gamers.....if anyone thought the base d2 was gonna have all the content as the fully loaded d1 and more, was being unrealistic....no video game does that, even if it's the sequel....
breh that's dumb as shyt

if 2k and madden fans can constantly be in developer's asses for taking content out of sequels, then a game with a 3 year long life cycle deserves MORE criticism.

where'd they put these ideas and content at? under a new price tag. like i can't even run a heroic strike? i can't even play free for all? it was already there. don't juelz up and make excuses, you got a responsibility as a consumer to demand satisfaction, not accommodate bs from production

i'll never get this developer sympathizer talk in that regard. "its not a sequel to rise of iron, its a sequel to vanilla d1" breh that is fukking retarded.
 

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nah you can Criticize i agree with @Tha Gawd Amen points 100% and i agree with yours .. and a lot of D1 vets i personally play with feel the same way right now as @Tha Gawd Amen , and i am starting to feel it, but you have to understand Destiny 2 Seems to be aimed more at the casual gamers then the hardcore ones who stayed with destiny for the three years :yeshrug: i am giving bunige the first two DLC's .... if the first two DLC's are like the dark below and HOW i might just wait for reviews for year 2 of destiny 2 before i cop
the dlc is probably gonna be great because they know exactly what works

but its still dlc :francis:
 

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got some important events I gotta prepare for in Tekken so I won't be on that much this week

I will say that I'm digging the warlock class a ton, and the New Monarchy gear and shaders look dope as hell on the warlock so I'm gonna roll with them. I already have the Number from FWC anyways.
 

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got some important events I gotta prepare for in Tekken so I won't be on that much this week

I will say that I'm digging the warlock class a ton, and the New Monarchy gear and shaders look dope as hell on the warlock so I'm gonna roll with them. I already have the Number from FWC anyways.
nah the handcannon from FWC and the scout is great
 

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the super is whatever, i'm talking about everything in between

the grenades and skills just aren't meant for pvp or are trumped by better stuff from other classes

throwing knife is weak as hell, less reliable than D1.
tripmine grenades cover less area than the other AoE control grenades and do laughable damage
chain of woe, really?

just across the board its garbage compared to other classes

the class is made for getting upclose, moving around quickly, and it does that very well....

throwing knife, just like all the other melees (abilities period) in the game, arent as strong as they were in d1 cause they are secondary to gun play...which is how the vocal pvp crowd of destiny wanted it....

each class has pros/cons, it's all about how it fits your play style...just cause it doesnt fit yours doesnt mean it's garbage...
 

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breh that's dumb as shyt

if 2k and madden fans can constantly be in developer's asses for taking content out of sequels, then a game with a 3 year long life cycle deserves MORE criticism.

where'd they put these ideas and content at? under a new price tag. like i can't even run a heroic strike? i can't even play free for all? it was already there. don't juelz up and make excuses, you got a responsibility as a consumer to demand satisfaction, not accommodate bs from production

i'll never get this developer sympathizer talk in that regard. "its not a sequel to rise of iron, its a sequel to vanilla d1" breh that is fukking retarded.

naw, it's not dumb.....madden/2k is a bad comparison to destiny....seriously, what's up with yall and bad comparisons to try to make points?....anyway, d1 was 3 years with content being added each year....instead of waiting for it to be added gradually like d1, yall want all the content for the 3 years right now....that's the unrealistic part...even if they did give you all the content for the next 3 years right now, yall would still complain about wanting more...that's the entitled part...

as for where did they put the new content: yea, that's how they did d1....they put the majority of new content with a price tag....as it went on, they stared doing events & shyt for free......they said they were gonna add more free events and shyt, along with the dlc for d2....the game is only 3 weeks old, we gotta wait and see if that's true or not....but in comparison to base d1, d2 has more content already....

naw, i'm not being sympathetic to the devs, i just aint up in arms cause the game is a significant improvement to base d1...and naw, it's not fukking retarded to compare base games to base games....what's fukking retarded is to think the base sequel was gonna have the same amount of content of a game with 4 dlcs...
 
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