Despair is settling in’: female suicides on rise in Taliban’s Afghanistan

[Professor Emeritus]

To be fair: the US has a much bigger suicide problem than Afghanistan

What is that claim based on?


Your entire post looks like some sort of bizarre MRM deflection, because you start with a completely spurious claim, and then spend the rest of your comment deflecting to the suicide issue for American men. Which is a valid issue, but has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP.

 

[Pirius Black]

What is that claim based on?


Your entire post looks like some sort of bizarre MRM deflection, because you start with a completely spurious claim, and then spend the rest of your comment deflecting to the suicide issue for American men. Which is a valid issue, but has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP.

Breh, I was like, what point are you even arguing? What does American male suicide rates has to do with female suicide rates in Afghanistan? Are American men currently living in a religious fundamentalist hellscape that bans male education and arranges marriages to drug addicted female family members?

 

[David_TheMan]

How many different versions of this lie are you going to repeat? This was never "exclusively" about my second paper, I quoted the first paper every fukking time and you claimed I had posted nothing.
















We were talking about those exact 76% and 16% figures from the very beginning.

* First you claimed that I had posted NOTHING about large numbers of suicides, even though it was my very first quote

* Then you claimed it wasn't happening pre-invasion, even though the study was from 2000

* Then you claimed it was only Kabul, even though it was explicitly urban and rural both from multiple regions

* Now you're claiming that you were talking about a different paper? So, what, you can just ignore any other paper if it proves you wrong?


You're such an ignorant poster.

You literally are fabricating out right now, this is a forum. When you quote me I can go to the post. Stop lying again when you try to pull us and I call it out.

We weren't talking about your exact figures you were. I literal told you what I was talking about in my post that you cite. So really this is beyond absurd but I expect nothing less than this from you, when you can not debate and engage you simply lie and start sloganizong your lies as if you think I care about popularity here.

My comments are there and unmodified. I stand by everything I've written and you have simply shown you are a western propagandizing double standard hypocrite when you get studies and reports that counter your programming.

That's your issue not mine.

 

[David_TheMan]

Ran away from what? You couldn't defend yourself for shyt.



David_TheMan caping for Confederates, said they weren't bad cause "only" 32% of households owned slaves.







David_TheMan using the "But black people were Confederates too!" deflection to defend white slaveowners.






David_TheMan said it was wrong to fire a cop for flying the Confederate Flag because honoring the Confederacy isn't a big deal:









David_TheMan says that it's silly to hate the Confederate flag and thinks she's a great cop.









David_TheMan capes for anti-Black terrorist John Wilkes Booth, repeats made-up Southern narratives about Lincoln, and quotes a famous neoConfederate Tom DiLorenzo (whose books he owns) to support his argument









He blatantly relies on racist white Southeners to tell him what to believe about history.

I stand by everything I wrote and it's all factual.
The truly funny part is I said in that thread the Confederacy was no better than the US government.

That seemed to get you consistently mad and triggered you. Both white supremacist slave holding nations.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Breh theguardian is a media arm of the UK state/mic. This is most likely fake news.

Um, the Guardian is owned by an independent trust that makes it completely financially independent from all government and corporate sources, and it's been that way for 85 years. So don't know what you're talking about. They've exposed government secrets plenty of times.

* For example, the Guardian is one of the main newspapers that broke the Panama Papers story and exposed PM David Cameron's offshore accounts.

* They're also the ones that Edward Snowden chose to leak to in order to expose America's PRISM surveillance program - not exactly a choice Snowden would have made if he thought they were doing the will of the UK government.

* They are the ones who broke the story of the Obama Administration secretly collecting Verizon telephone records

* They were sued for libel by UK cabinet minister Jonathan Aitken, and were able to prove their case leading to Aitken having to serve jail time for perjury

* They were Sarah Tisdall's choice to leak the secret stationing of cruise missiles in the UK



Exactly what were you basing your claim of them being a "media arm of the UK state" on?

 

[Family Lives Matter]

America's legacy to the world

 

[Family Lives Matter]

Funny wasn't a prison and there weren't this suicides before the US.

What they wont tell you is the majority of these suicides come from the little dens of soddom and gommorah the US setup where a lot of these women were prostituting and became hooked on drugs and now they don't want to act with sense anymore. They want to be western whores so bad they are killing themselves.

I'm sure the majority of men and women don't care in that country theis is western PR

You mean women who will get killed or raped if they speak up against something are more likely not to speak up against it

 

[MischievousMonkey]

This @David_TheMan character defending the Taliban used to defend Hitler and say he wasn't evil at all, he was just a man with ideas. He claimed Hitler and Jesse Owens were actually great friends and the media got it all wrong.


He also defends Confederates, saying that white cops have every right to fly the Confederate flag and if you try to stop them you're violating their rights. He tried to derail an anti-Confederate thread by claiming, "But only 32% of White households owned slaves, not all of them!" and "Look, some Black people owned slaves too!" He even was recommending history books written by neo-Confederates that said Lincoln was the true evil one and celebrating his assassination.


He's repeatedly called Obama evil and posted right-wing articles by racists claiming that Obamacare was killing people. Yet he'll defend Trump left and right.


He's a huge Ron Paul stan and says that Ron Paul is the only hope for America, even though he's had an entire career of pushing racist bullshyt and hanging with White Supremacists.


He worships White women and says they're superior to Black women in every way.




Why he only gets bushed for a few months each time and not perma-banned makes no sense to me

I can't even say Rhakim poisoned the well since he dismantled breh's arguments THEN exposed him

 

[David_TheMan]

You mean women who will get killed or raped if they speak up against something are more likely not to speak up against it

Taliban were preferred because they don't kill and rape women for speaking that's not in accordance with islam, that's more tribal shyt.

Under sharia women have more rights than tribal afghan law, that's why it became popular in what we know as Afghanistan and Pakistan today.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

"West = bad" is not an argument. Clearly the western cultural model is much superior to whatever the Talibans offer to women in Afghanistan when it comes to their life, happiness and safety.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Taliban were preferred because they don't kill and rape women for speaking that's not in accordance with islam, that's more tribal shyt.

Under sharia women have more rights than tribal afghan law, that's why it became popular in what we know as Afghanistan and Pakistan today.

You stick to the position that Talibans' shariah law > Afghani tribal law when it comes to women, but what about US imposed law versus Talibans'? Isn't the American model clearly much better for women putting aside external factors such as war?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I stand by everything I wrote and it's all factual.

Bullshyt.


1. You claimed 32% of Confederates owning slaves was an "extremely small percentage", which everyone can see is bullshyt


2. You claimed the Civil War had nothing to do with fighting against slavery. Yet the Confederate States explicitly said in their secession documents that they were leaving the Union because they thought Lincoln's election was going to lead to the end of slavery.


3. You said that John Wilkes Booth killing Lincoln had nothing to do with Black rights. Yet Booth's co-defendents under oath in court said that he decided to kill Lincoln after hearing him give a speech where he argued for Black citizenship and voting rights.


4. You claimed JWB couldn't have killed Lincoln due to Black citizenship, because that was already covered in 13th and 15th Amendments. But the 13th Amendment is about slavery, it has nothing to do with citizenship or voting. And the 15th Amendment wasn't passed until a full 4 years after Lincoln died.


5. You claimed Lincoln wasn't beloved in America until the 1920s, that he was a "corrupt politician hated in both the North and South", and posted two sources to support your claim. I quoted from your own sources saying that Lincoln was absolutely beloved upon his death. According to your OWN sources that you posted. I should have also pointed out that Lincoln's closest allies won in a fukking landslide in the elections after his death.


6. You then apologized for posting the "wrong links", and claimed you really learned about the hate against Lincoln in some book you read. I pointed out that the book was written by a famed neo-Confederate who has spoken at the meetings of full-on racist White Nationalist groups. You said you didn't care.



7. You claimed that the city couldn't fire a cop for flying the Confederate Flag, that they would have 1st Amendment issues, and that she would win a big lawsuit. Well she tried to sue them....and had her lawsuit quickly dismissed. So she took that one all the way to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals....and lost again, saying her 1st Amendment rights had not been violated. So you were factually wrong.

Silvia Cotriss v. City of Roswell, et al, No. 19-12747 (11th Cir. 2022)

Silvia Cotriss v. City of Roswell, et al, No. 19-12747 (11th Cir. 2022) case opinion from the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit

law.justia.com

Confederate Flag Display Supports Georgia Policewoman's Firing

A former Roswell, Ga., police sergeant failed to show her free speech retaliation lawsuit over her firing for flying Confederate battle flags outside her home was improperly dismissed, the Eleventh Circuit ruled Wednesday.

news.bloomberglaw.com

That's 7 examples of you being factually wrong just in your Confederate caping. And that doesn't count all the times you lied while you were caping for Hitler, caping for Ron Paul, caping for Trump, caping for racist right-wing critics of Obama, caping for White women, and all the other bullshyt you spew.

 

[David_TheMan]

Bullshyt.


1. You claimed 32% of Confederates owning flags was an "extremely small percentage", which everyone can see is bullshyt


2. You claimed the Civil War had nothing to do with fighting against slavery. Yet the Confederate States explicitly said in their secession documents that they were leaving the Union because they thought Lincoln's election was going to lead to the end of slavery.


3. You said that John Wilkes Booth killing Lincoln had nothing to do with Black rights. Yet Booth's co-defendents under oath in court said that he decided to kill Lincoln after hearing him give a speech where he argued for Black citizenship and voting rights.


4. You claimed JWB couldn't have killed Lincoln due to Black citizenship, because that was already covered in 13th and 15th Amendments. But the 13th Amendment is about slavery, it has nothing to do with citizenship or voting. And the 15th Amendment wasn't passed until a full 4 years after Lincoln died.


5. You claimed Lincoln wasn't beloved in America until the 1920s, that he was a "corrupt politician hated in both the North and South", and posted two sources to support your claim. I quoted from your own sources saying that Lincoln was absolutely beloved upon his death. According to your OWN sources that you posted. I should have also pointed out that Lincoln's closest allies won in a fukking landslide in the elections after his death.


6. You then apologized for posting the "wrong links", and claimed you really learned about the hate against Lincoln in some book you read. I pointed out that the book was written by a famed neo-Confederate who has spoken at the meetings of full-on racist White Nationalist groups. You said you didn't care.



7. You claimed that the city couldn't fire a cop for flying the Confederate Flag, that they would have 1st Amendment issues, and that she would win a big lawsuit. Well she took them to court....and lost. So you were factually wrong.

Silvia Cotriss v. City of Roswell, et al, No. 19-12747 (11th Cir. 2022)

Silvia Cotriss v. City of Roswell, et al, No. 19-12747 (11th Cir. 2022) case opinion from the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit

law.justia.com

Confederate Flag Display Supports Georgia Policewoman's Firing

A former Roswell, Ga., police sergeant failed to show her free speech retaliation lawsuit over her firing for flying Confederate battle flags outside her home was improperly dismissed, the Eleventh Circuit ruled Wednesday.

news.bloomberglaw.com

That's 7 examples of you being factually wrong just in your Confederate caping. And that doesn't count all the times you lied while you were caping for Hitler, caping for Ron Paul, caping for Trump, caping for racist right-wing critics of Obama, caping for White women, and all the other bullshyt you spew.

Lol
You can feel free to pull up the thread and we can continue the Convo.
I'm not going to derail this thread you failed in again because you are still hurt about that one.

 

[David_TheMan]

You stick to the position that Talibans' shariah law > Afghani tribal law when it comes to women, but what about US imposed law versus Talibans'? Isn't the American model clearly much better for women putting aside external factors such as war?

US didn't impose it's law, is backed tribal law war lords like Jan Muhammad.

The American model was pay the warlords especially in the south to establish order and replace the taliban leadership vacuum not create a American system or style system.

 

[Family Lives Matter]

Taliban were preferred because they don't kill and rape women for speaking that's not in accordance with islam, that's more tribal shyt.

Under sharia women have more rights than tribal afghan law, that's why it became popular in what we know as Afghanistan and Pakistan today.

You should move to Afghanistan