DEONTAY WILDER fired Lou Dibella because he got him an offer to fight Joshua

reservoirdogs

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I don't think that Wilder is scared of Joshua but shutting DiBella out because he wanted the best deal for the fighter is very bad look regardless. Isn't Haymon supposed to be the "exception" among crooked boxing promoters/managers who seeks out the benefit of the fighter? Not that I believed that but according to some posters here at least...
Well, turns out (and we know this since at least he made Quillin turn down a career high payday vs Korobov because Roc Nation offered it) he's like the rest, a promoter who takes his own interest first and foremost, everything comes second place. He is good for the fighters up until the point that his competitors would be more lucrative for them. From then he blocks them from going anywhere else cause the most important for him is his own boxing empire at the end of the day. Just like for other promoters their own. End of.

And this DiBella case plus Malignaggi getting banned by Wilder's team cause he dared to say Fury won the first fight make Wilder's team look like straight up divas.
 

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He hasn’t cleared out the division. He was strategically moved because the end of an era was near. Fury and Wilder didn’t have that privilege because they turned pro during the prime of Wlad.

Joshua won gold at the Olympics and had a country behind him. Boxing is literally what the second/third biggest sport in England while it’s 8th in the states.

Wilder as everybody knows was extremely raw starting out and had a lot more fine tuning to go, hell hes still getting better.

It’s a perfect storm for AJ to have a more rushed career but none of that matters now. They have to fight each other or the fans lose.

If the money was on Wilders side to start he’d have unified against Parker and Martin. He had Parker at a fight to hype up a unification and next thing we know Parker signed to fight Joshua.

Had a fight with Povetkin lined up and he popped for a roid.

Got in the ring with Fury and he went and fought Wlad(best choice).

Had AJ actually fought Ortiz when he was the mandatory who knows what would have happened to his career but it helped build Wilder.

Credit to Hearn for taking his opportunities with his great fighter and moving him fast but eras matter and now way they move him that fast in an era where the Klitschko brothers were the ones holding the belts.

It isnt, dont know where you got that idea from.

Boxing is a strange sport in the UK, kinda of niche in some regards. Very big in the Celtic countries, but not as big as you think in England. It looks massive on TV with the sell outs for the big fights or for a particular fighter like Fatton or AJ, but then again if the Darts was in a 20k arena it would look a bigger sport than it actually is.

Football, Rugby, Cricket, Horse Racing, Tennis & Golf all bigger than Boxing in UK/England.
 

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AJ beat Wlad who's an all time legend, he was in great shape coming into that fight and aggressive too. It's irrelevant in context if he was coming off a loss because Wlad wasn't throwing properly in that Fury fight, Fury seemed to get in his head, he was ready to do the rematch with him but Fury pulled out. He may have adapted and won, never got the chance because Fury pulled out. So it doesn't really mean anything, that version of Wlad still would have beat most other current fighters at the time. Wilder wouldn't fight Wlad at ANY point, even though they were around together at the same time, WIlder says he still don't want to fight Wlad even if he came back now.

What you're saying doesn't really make sense, Wilder lost to Fury in the first fight in the vast majority of people's minds, this was also a cherry picked Fury who was physically unfit and mentally unstable coming off a long lay off with no competitive fights coming back. That Fury was at around 50-60 percent and Wilder STILL lost rightfully.

I don't see how anybody could not be impressed with AJ's record considering the number of fights he's had, it's an incredible record for the number of fights he's had, it's way better than all the current heavyweights and even historically is great in that number of fights. He's beaten Whyte who's the current WBC number 1 that Wilder has refused to fight for big money on multiple occasions, Martin who was the champion, Wlad who's a historical all time great heavyweight, Parker a world champion and a good fighter, Povetkin a gold medalist and a champion and Ruiz who was a champion. That's highly impressive in 23 fights, not even mentioning the fact he's a gold medalist.

You say Wilder is knocking out these bums cold Fury included apart from the fact he didn't knock Fury out and should have lost bar a robbery by the judges. Wilder has faced terrible competition for the most part his whole career, AJ would have knocked every single last 1 of Wilder opponents out too, the only question mark is Fury who we don't know what would happen and want to see. Wilder is about to have his 44th fight and this is the first time he's fought an actual proven elite heavyweight, which is awful. He will deserve credit if he wins this time, and he will finally have 1 elite name on his record, but 1 out of 44 fights is very poor.

That's all cool and all but back in 2016 2017 dazn didn't have any big draws, just Joshua fighting in UK and it makes way more sense that joshua and camp steered clear of the fight to be safe. And ive seen plenty fighters get it waved off for getting viciously dropped like wilder did fury in round 12, and yeah fury won more rounds but never really pushed Wilder till the very end. Can't wait for that rematch. Joshua dropped Ruiz got comfortable and got dropped and quit in there, something I now know hes capable of.. then I see the rematch he doesn't put much on any punch and runs the whole fight. Seeing him play it that safe with a 280 pound Ruiz didn't do much for his rep. Also would have loved for him to take that fight with undefeated Ortiz when he was his mando like someone else mentioned.. if Ruiz did him like that I like his chances
 

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It isnt, dont know where you got that idea from.

Boxing is a strange sport in the UK, kinda of niche in some regards. Very big in the Celtic countries, but not as big as you think in England. It looks massive on TV with the sell outs for the big fights or for a particular fighter like Fatton or AJ, but then again if the Darts was in a 20k arena it would look a bigger sport than it actually is.

Football, Rugby, Cricket, Horse Racing, Tennis & Golf all bigger than Boxing in UK/England
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beat me to it
 

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2nd or 3rd? :mjlol:

football, rugby, cricket, tennis, golf, horse racing, are all above boxing in the UK, thats just off top - i'm probably missing some:gucci:

How the hell is fukking golf more popular than boxing? :gucci:
Some flabby, old dudes trying to put a ball in holes with a stick vs 2 guys putting it all on the line trying to beat the hell each other. Am I missing something?
I believe you but... :hhh:
 

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How the hell is fukking golf more popular than boxing? :gucci:
Some flabby, old dudes trying to put a ball in holes with a stick vs 2 guys putting it all on the line trying to beat the hell each other. Am I missing something?
I believe you but... :hhh:
Golf is more popular in the US than boxing.
 

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Hey it is what it is, once blacks took over ot became a niche.

They love white hopes like mike lee, I mean he got mational commerials over guys like bradley and ward, so you know what it is here. Hell they gave that latina boxer whonquit mcdonalds commercials over clarissa.

Golf gets ayed on major networks and has its own channel.
 

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Hey it is what it is, once blacks took over ot became a niche.

They love white hopes like mike lee, I mean he got mational commerials over guys like bradley and ward, so you know what it is here. Hell they gave that latina boxer whonquit mcdonalds commercials over clarissa.

Golf gets ayed on major networks and has its own channel.

I doubt that would be the reason cause the major US boxers were mostly black even in the 70s or 90s and boxing was big back in those decades.
I just can't comprehend how golf is more interesting and entertaining to people than boxing or any combat sport. But hey maybe that's just me
 

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Where is Floyd ranking then in the US? considering you said Boxing is 8th in America.
Floyd is an anomaly. It’s like Tiger in Golf. This two dudes transcend the sport they play in. McGregor is probably the same but he not even on them dudes level. I would put him on par with Tiger, the most popular football players and below like LeBron Jordan Kobe(even before death) etc on basketball players. Over here he’s more popular than any baseball, hockey, soccer player but those are bigger sports. Maybe Federer is close but that’s an argument.
 

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Floyd is an anomaly. It’s like Tiger in Golf. This two dudes transcend the sport they play in. McGregor is probably the same but he not even on them dudes level. I would put him on par with Tiger, the most popular football players and below like LeBron Jordan Kobe(even before death) etc on basketball players. Over here he’s more popular than any baseball, hockey, soccer player but those are bigger sports. Maybe Federer is close but that’s an argument.

Just like AJ in the UK. It's one of those cases were 1 +1 doesn't always equal 2.

Boxing only becomes big when there are big fights and the casuals come out to play to make it look bigger than it is.

In regards to AJ's, there are many other factors to his popularity is so big. Home Olympics, winning Super Heavyweight title (heavyweights will always be king, as everyone is always looking for the next one) great background story, former Roadman who took up boxing 4 years ago, turns life around to become a Olympic Champion. Luke Campbell doesn't get the amount of recognition and he won gold in London too. A lot of the Home Olympic gold medalist are eating off Celebrity in the UK, shyt even people who won silver and bronze eating too. Anthony Ogogo who won bronze is probably more known as a reality tv star than being an Olympic bronze medalist for boxing.

Tyson Fury is a bigger star/celebrity now due to his mental health awareness work and comeback than he was after beating Wlad.

Carl Froch is almost known more for saying 'when I fought in front of 80 thousand people' than he is for his boxing career.
 
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