Me too. I’m going check it out this weekendIve never seen this joint...and i thought id seen all Denzel joints....But considering it was made 3 years before i was born im not surprised ive never seen it
Gonna watch it this weekend
Denzel putting two hot ones in that bytch, Sgt. Waters chest appreciation
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In that setting, he might have caught friendly fire.
White MFers were actually trying to convince the world that we were the missing link between humans and apes in that era.
Some of you are looking at it from 21st century eyes.
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One of those movies that becomes a brand new movie the more mature and worldly you become
Me watching this in my teens and me watching in this in my 30's was like watching 2 totally different movies
Me watching this in my teens and me watching in this in my 30's was like watching 2 totally different movies
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Yeah, it's not worthy of murder and why care what the French think anyway?
Look at the time though. Hard-nose, tough love, no nonsense authority was the only perceived way to train your subordinates. He figured CJ wasn't gonna cut it in the fight. There was no hand-holding back then.
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OK why didn't he go at the white people who put the guy up to it? Shouldn't he hate them more?
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Black soldier had free will, and willingly did it. Person with such a lack of dignity was no good anyway.
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No part of the film or dialogue indicated that CJ wasn't a good soldier.
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That's not what I asked you?
The white folks had free will to and orchestrated the entire thing. Where's the murder game for them?
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They knew exactly which soldier was up there running around. He had to go. Wouldn't have known how many white soldiers planned the spectacle or passed out the leaflets with King of The Monkeys on it.
Finished moving the goalposts yet?
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I don't think that's why. The character is trying to present himself as a person about the Black struggle and helping all of us gain a better foot hold in society which will benefit the weakest of our ethnic group the most. But he is afraid of confronting white people over what they have directly done to Black people. His fear of confronting them leads to him hating himself for being cowardly and leaving out the main people responsible for Black people's current situation. His hatred for himself and the situation of his people causes him to lash out and the very type of person he pretends he is all about uplifting is the person who feels his wrath.
It was implied that he was mildly retarded, or at least dimwitted, simple minded. Some of the others attributed it to him being a country boy (another stereotype "Sarge didn't like them"), but overall it was shown. They all looked at him like he was the baby.
Even in that monologue, that's the one where Sarge basically says that CJ is the one that white folks will gravitate towards because of his gifts, then use him, manipulate him, ridicule him...and CJ will take it as white folks also liking him. You're right. It doesn't mean CJ won't be a good soldier, but they story Sarge tells about France is why he doesn't think CJ will be a good soldier.
can't think of another more deserving on screen death
hate that it had to be another black man
but fukk him
poor ol CJ.
Sgt Waters was excellent in the color purple too
Ya' Cousin Cleon
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still no justification for framing a breh
I could see if the roles were reverse where he was going behind people's backs and getting other soldiers locked up and what not
but dude was just trying to live his life
I could see if the roles were reverse where he was going behind people's backs and getting other soldiers locked up and what not
but dude was just trying to live his life
Ive never seen this joint
Gonna watch it this weekend
great movie…lucky you!