Dems file Articles of Impeachment 1 month into Trump's 2nd term

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I get why they are going this route because they have to do SOMETHING.
They would be better off doing nothing than doing things like this that turn the public against them. If you can't convince the public he needs to be impeached them actually impeaching him just looks like partisan bullshyt.
 

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this comes off as political theater.
Everything is political theatre when you dont have the seats to block anything or pass anything. But they must do something.

They would be better off doing nothing than doing things like this that turn the public against them.

No, this is stupid as fukk. If them wanting this fukking clown impeached turns you against them, then you already had your tongue 10 miles up that man's orange a$$hole anyway. fukk all of that.


People: "Do something, even if you have no power!"
Washington: *Does something*
People: "Not like that!"

:camby::camby::camby:
 
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Everything is political theatre when you dont have the seats to block anything or pass anything. But they must do nothing.



No, this is stupid as fukk. If them wanting this fukking clown impeached turns you against them, then you already had your tongue 10 miles up that man's orange a$$hole anyway. fukk all of that.


People: "Do something, even if you have no power!"
Washington: *Does something*
People: "Not like that!"

:camby::camby::camby:
You're suggesting taking meaningless ceremonial action has value? I'm suggesting they need to focus on how to turn the general public against Trump rather than continue with these worthless acts that will have zero impact.

People need to see how his policies damage them and their love ones. This is a waste of time that will backfire.
 

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I generally believe these type of actions are for show when either party does it.

Trump has been getting pretty bold & overstepping with a lot of his moves. They may have been better waiting as he is bound to get himself in some shyt Elon nor other Repubs are willing to stand by him on. That would have been the time to move
 

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This will be a complete waste of time. Nothing is going to change.
Well yeah it's almost like people voted their power away or something...oh wait they did :martin:

So many apathetic people that didn't vote this cycle. The country is losing hope all around. People are jaded and tired. The two party system is a failure. Rights are being taken away, an oligarchic takeover of the government disguised as "efficiency" is occurring, international relationships are being ruined...but people are more concerned about a Chinese social media app being banned because "this other stuff doesnt affect them day to day" :dead:

A lot of people are cooked and don't even know it yet.
 
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Yeah all 3 branches is a death knell. I get it. I am no fan of this iteration of democrats because they have no fight, overly concered with perception/procedure, push things on the fringe we can't win on at this time, and we're not meeting voters where they are which is alternative media... but it's literally all we got.

I'm just trying to think of ways to slow down the most harmful changes Trump is making; firing and dismantling federal bureaus. If we can eek across to midterms and they're somewhat fair, I think it'll be a blue wave if democrats hit the alternative media market. In the correct way, but only AOC and Bernie are doing this. @IsThatBrothaMouzone? Said the general public is stupid not in those words, but I'm saying they are. They need to dumb the message down. The general person doesn't understand tax credits, progressive taxes, percentage of the trans population, transitory inflation. They don't understand and honestly don't want to understand, so you have to meet voters where they are.

Ultimately, I think a new party may have to form because I think democrats lost the public trust and they WON'T get it back with a compromised media. They have to target alternative media before MAGA tries to shut that down, because that's coming too.
You're absolutely right that Democrats need to do better at engagement, especially in ways that reach disaffected voters. There are millions of voters out there who don't vote for either party, and Democrats need to find ways to connect with them using every reasonable platform, or else they'll keep losing people to apathy. I completely agree that other forms of media are key, and that if they don't start taking it seriously, they'll keep ceding ground to the right. You're right that they need to find a simple way to deliver that message too.

I also understand what you mean when you say Democrats are too caught up in procedure and perception. But I think that overlooks how Trump is actually wielding power. He's reshaping the government through executive action to dismantle the bureaucracy itself. I think that's something that needs to be conveyed to the public at large as well. But a lot of people don't want to hear that.

And as for alternative media, Trump and the right already have a massive foothold there. It's not something they're planning to take over, it's something they've already done. Democrats are playing catch-up, and they need to recognize just how much the information landscape has changed. That doesn't mean they've lost all opportunities, but if they don't act fast, the gap will only grow wider.

That's also where voters need to step up. Yes, Democrats need to be more effective at reaching people where they are, but at the same time, people have a responsibility to be engaged and informed. If voters passively absorb misinformation or ignore hard truths, no amount of good messaging will fix that. It has to be a two-way effort. Too many people rely on headlines, soundbites, or outright misinformation instead of seeking out a deeper understanding. Yes, messaging needs to be clear and accessible, but people also need to be willing to engage critically with the information they consume.
 
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