Democratic Party Rebuild

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I mean, what's even the point? Even if there's a blue wave in 2026 and/or 2028, the idiots in this country will give Republicans back power sooner rather than later.

This is just another reason why I've become jaded with politics. I'm starting to view it as near pointless (at least federally) because of the huge amount of misinformation out there (primarily due to Fox News and social media) and also the education gap.

This was basically where I was at in 2016, welcome to the club :wow: that pessimism hits everybody eventually

That's basically how I felt after 2016 and its mostly colored my view of politics since. In 2008 when I was a young breh phone banking for Obama I thought maybe things would be different, but now it's clear the country is too stupid and racist to ever change.

That youthful optimism doesn't last forever
 
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I mean, what's even the point? Even if there's a blue wave in 2026 and/or 2028, the idiots in this country will give Republicans back power sooner rather than later

This is so defeatist. And this is why a lot of people have beef with the party. If they're gonna take this defeatist, bytch ass loser attitude of "voters are racist, all we can hope for every 4 years is that a sliver of voters in the blue wall fall our way" then they deserve to spiral into meaninglessness.

Trump won on vibes. Is the Democratic party incapable of stomping him and his MAGA party into the dirt for the forseeable future with a rock solid agenda? I don't even care if they decide to go all 90s Clinton at this point (they shouldn't but that is a different debate), do they even have the cojones to stand on business regardless of their platform and make an effective case and back it up with policies that are effective?
 

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This is so defeatist. And this is why a lot of people have beef with the party. If they're gonna take this defeatist, bytch ass loser attitude of "voters are racist, all we can hope for every 4 years is that a sliver of voters in the blue wall fall our way" then they deserve to spiral into meaninglessness.

Trump won on vibes. Is the Democratic party incapable of stomping him and his MAGA party into the dirt for the forseeable future with a rock solid agenda? I don't even care if they decide to go all 90s Clinton at this point (they shouldn't but that is a different debate), do they even have the cojones to stand on business regardless of their platform and make an effective case and back it up with policies that are effective?
There is something to the Democrats have become the nerds who got stuffed in lockers in 80s movies theory.
 

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This is so defeatist. And this is why a lot of people have beef with the party. If they're gonna take this defeatist, bytch ass loser attitude of "voters are racist, all we can hope for every 4 years is that a sliver of voters in the blue wall fall our way" then they deserve to spiral into meaninglessness.

Trump won on vibes. Is the Democratic party incapable of stomping him and his MAGA party into the dirt for the forseeable future with a rock solid agenda? I don't even care if they decide to go all 90s Clinton at this point (they shouldn't but that is a different debate), do they even have the cojones to stand on business regardless of their platform and make an effective case and back it up with policies that are effective?
There is something to the Democrats have become the nerds who got stuffed in lockers in 80s movies theory.
Yes, I know that the both of you hate the Democratic Party. I don't care.
 

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This is so defeatist. And this is why a lot of people have beef with the party. If they're gonna take this defeatist, bytch ass loser attitude of "voters are racist, all we can hope for every 4 years is that a sliver of voters in the blue wall fall our way" then they deserve to spiral into meaninglessness.

Trump won on vibes. Is the Democratic party incapable of stomping him and his MAGA party into the dirt for the forseeable future with a rock solid agenda? I don't even care if they decide to go all 90s Clinton at this point (they shouldn't but that is a different debate), do they even have the cojones to stand on business regardless of their platform and make an effective case and back it up with policies that are effective?

It doesn't matter, demagoguery is more effective than having an agenda.

If anything bad happens Trump will just blame it on immigrants, minorities, LGTBQ, etc. and anybody else his base hates, and they'll eat it up.
 

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You're not familiar with politics in the rest of the developed world then :unimpressed:

The "socialist" Bernie Sanders is your regular degular center left politician in Europe. And there is a chasm between his platform and the platform of mainstream Democrats, which was dragged right by Bill Clinton in the 90s and has remained there with minor iterations by Obama.
In what other developed nation is a gun toting, war hawk, corporatist, tough on crime, anti immigration not right of center? You have to name that developed nation too.

She is to the right of Emmanuel Macron.
Once again, both of you are speaking a bunch of nonsense.

Other developed Anglosphere countries:

Australia - Democrats are more or less the equivalent of Australia's Labor Party (which is the main "center-left" party in that country)
Canada - Democrats are more or less the equivalent of Canada's Liberal Party (which is the main "center-left" party in that country)
New Zealand - Democrats are more or less the equivalent of NZ's Labour Party (which is the main "center-left" party in that country)
UK - Democrats are more or less the equivalent of the the UK's Labour Party (which is the main "center-left" party in that country)


Developed East/Southeast Asian countries:

Japan - Japan has been ruled by a right-wing nationalist party since 1955 (with a few years of exception). Democrats are much more pro-LGBT and pro-immigration than pretty much any Japanese political party

South Korea - Similar to Japan. Dems social stances alone definitely wouldn't make them "center-right" in Korea lol.

Taiwan - Dems are more left-wing than the DPP (which is considered the main "center-left" party of Taiwan).

Singapore - The country is controlled by a single center-right party (People's Action Party) and has been since it's inception.


Developed Gulf countries:

Do I even need to say anything? LOL.


Developed European countries:

Democrats are to the right of major EU left-wing parties on healthcare. However, that doesn't make Dems "center-right". The primary reason why the United States doesn't have universal healthcare is because of unified Republican and conservative opposition. Democrats have tried to pass universal healthcare since FDR.

On the other hand, Democrats are to the left of pretty much every EU left-wing party on trans issues, immigration and even abortion.
 

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It doesn't matter, demagoguery is more effective than having an agenda.

If anything bad happens Trump will just blame it on immigrants, minorities, LGTBQ, etc. and anybody else his base hates, and they'll eat it up.

Trump has a base who go with him no matter what, no one is denying that. He can't run in 4 years though.

Plus, you're ignoring the millions of people who normally vote Democrat but stayed home. Or the other millions of people on the fence. Or the other millions of people currently disgusted with both sides and won't even bother coming out to vote.

Again, it's not a problem if you believe this. If the Democratic party believes this then they're even more useless than I think they are right now
 
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