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Looking thru this thread it looks like blue maga still haven't learned with multiple failed elections since 2016, keep blaming the voters instead of the leaders. This elitist corporate attitude is why dems keep losing and will continue to lose.
The Dems won the 2018, 2022 mid terms in landslides and the 2020 presidency. We all realize you illiterate babies have more in common ideologically with Trump when it comes to ignoring democratic processes and grasping basic civics but as of right now voting still matters.

You can only blame corporations for so long when ultimately you have to stop being lazy and do your duty as a citizen.
 
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The Dems won the 2018, 2022 mid terms in landslides and the 2020 presidency. We all realize you illiterate babies have more in common ideologically with Trump when it comes to ignoring democratic processes and grasping basic civics but as of right now voting still matters.

You can only blame corporations for so long when ultimately you have to stop being lazy and do your duty as a citizen.
Ok but lets stop taking corporate money from bad people.

We won the midterms. But then we lost some too. Why is it when an anti-incumbency election Dems always lose? (like this past one) Probably because they're the face of bureaucracy and establishment...
 

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Dems lost because Trump is a master communicator and lies nonstop. How do you counter that?

Trump has charisma and lies nonstop. That’s why he won. He’s good at communication. He can just lie nonstop and make it appear that he’s telling the truth. That needs to be countered, not this trans, Palestinian bullshyt. That’s not why she lost. She lost because Trump knows how to lie real well. You need to counter those lies.

I’m all for equal rights, but you can’t run a women against Trump. It failed twice. Once Trump dies, things will be different, but until then we need a solution to Trump’s master communication skills. That’s what won him the election too. He’s just too good at communication. He’s a master.

Maybe The Rock is the solution. :dead:

Until you can match dem communication with Trump communication, dems will lose. Trump is a master conman. Respect that and respond accordingly.

All this talk about Palestine and trans issues does not reach the heart of the issue. It’s all nonsense. That is not why Kamala lost. She lost because Trump is a better communicator. Address that and we have a solution.
 

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Dems lost because Trump is a master communicator and lies nonstop. How do you counter that?

Trump has charisma and lies nonstop. That’s why he won. He’s good at communication. He can just lie nonstop and make it appear that he’s telling the truth. That needs to be countered, not this trans, Palestinian bullshyt. That’s not why she lost. She lost because Trump knows how to lie real well. You need to counter those lies.

I’m all for equal rights, but you can’t run a women against Trump. It failed twice. Once Trump dies, things will be different, but until then we need a solution to Trump’s master communication skills. That’s what won him the election too. He’s just too good at communication. He’s a master.

Maybe The Rock is the solution. :dead:

Until you can match dem communication with Trump communication, dems will lose. Trump is a master conman. Respect that and respond accordingly.

All this talk about Palestine and trans issues does not reach the heart of the issue. It’s all nonsense. That is not why Kamala lost. She lost because Trump is a better communicator. Address that and we have a solution.
No, it is that people are retards. The ones that believed him the first time, ignored the fukk shyt from the first time and decided to give him another go.

It is the retards that are more afraid of transformers over having their standard of living decreased.

It is the retards that even though they would be hurt by him still decided to not vote.


He is not a "master communicator", the people that voted for him knew he was full of shyt and still did it. That is not the problem. The problem is the amount of idiots that decided to stay home and let him win, a repeat of what happened with Clinton. The amount of people that depend on the government and are more hurt by economic downturns that decided not to vote is the real problem.
 

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No, it is that people are retards. The ones that believed him the first time, ignored the fukk shyt from the first time and decided to give him another go.

It is the retards that are more afraid of transformers over having their standard of living decreased.

It is the retards that even though they would be hurt by him still decided to not vote.


He is not a "master communicator", the people that voted for him knew he was full of shyt and still did it. That is not the problem. The problem is the amount of idiots that decided to stay home and let him win, a repeat of what happened with Clinton. The amount of people that depend on the government and are more hurt by economic downturns that decided not to vote is the real problem.
You’re a 100% wrong. Trump is able to make lies look like truth. The idiots that voted for him believed his lies. You need to respect game. Trump is an amazing communicator. Just watch one of his speeches, not just a clip. He is able to make people believe in him. You need to respect your enemy :ufdup:

Until you respect your enemy you will never beat him. Isn’t this Warcraft 101? :mindblown:

Hitler came into power because of his master communication skills. I taught public speaking at the college level. We studied Hitler for a section. Communication is key. For better or worse, Trump is extremely gifted at it

We need to recognize his strength before we can defeat him. Trump is really good at some things. They need to be countered, but first we need to recognize them. Without knowledge of his strengths we can never defeat him.
 

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You’re a 100% wrong. Trump is able to make lies look like truth. The idiots that voted for him believed his lies. You need to respect game. Trump is an amazing communicator. Just watch one of his speeches, not just a clip. He is able to make people believe in him. You need to respect your enemy :ufdup:

Until you respect your enemy you will never beat him. Isn’t this Warcraft 101? :mindblown:

Hitler cake into power because of his master communication skills. I taught public speaking at the college level. We studied Hitler for a section. Communication is key. For better or worse, Trump is extremely gifted at it

We need to recognize his strength before we can defeat him. Trump is really good at some things. They need to be countered, but first we need to recognize them. Without knowledge of his strengths we can never defeat him.
If you think someone is going to improve the economy because they essentially say, "The economy is bad, so bad and i am going to make it so much better, believe me", then you are a stupid motherfukker and should not be voting.

If "I'm going to make the economy so great, so great no one has ever seen anything like it" inspires confidence in you, then you are a retard.

It is disturbing to say the least that you think talking out of your ass to numbskulls is some type of proof of communication skills. If i told short bus riders to drink bleach to clean their insides and they do it, that does not make me "master communicator", it makes them dumb as shyt.
 

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If you think someone is going to improve the economy because they essentially say, "The economy is bad, so bad and i am going to make it so much better, believe me", then you are a stupid motherfukker and should not be voting.

If "I'm going to make the economy so great, so great no one has ever seen anything like it" inspires confidence in you, then you are a retard.

It is disturbing to say the least that you think talking out of your ass to numbskulls is some type of proof of communication skills. If i told short bus riders to drink bleach to clean their insides and they do it, that does not make me "master communicator", it makes them dumb as shyt.
You’re forgetting that dumb people vote. You are partially right, but Trump spoke to them in a way they understood. Trump knows his audience. That’s public speaking 101. Trump knows how to communicate to the general public, which I’ll agree are fukking stupid. But, they are voters. Dems need to teach them.
 

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Dems lost because Trump is a master communicator and lies nonstop. How do you counter that?

Trump has charisma and lies nonstop. That’s why he won. He’s good at communication. He can just lie nonstop and make it appear that he’s telling the truth. That needs to be countered, not this trans, Palestinian bullshyt. That’s not why she lost. She lost because Trump knows how to lie real well. You need to counter those lies.

I’m all for equal rights, but you can’t run a women against Trump. It failed twice. Once Trump dies, things will be different, but until then we need a solution to Trump’s master communication skills. That’s what won him the election too. He’s just too good at communication. He’s a master.

Maybe The Rock is the solution. :dead:

Until you can match dem communication with Trump communication, dems will lose. Trump is a master conman. Respect that and respond accordingly.

All this talk about Palestine and trans issues does not reach the heart of the issue. It’s all nonsense. That is not why Kamala lost. She lost because Trump is a better communicator. Address that and we have a solution.
Someone who also has charisma and creates content nonstop

Someone who debates everyday on national TV

I'm sorry but the Stephen A. Smith idea is gaining more traction in my mind. I hate that he's a "centrist" but the Dems need someone LIKE THAT.
 

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Someone who also has charisma and creates content nonstop

Someone who debates everyday on national TV

I'm sorry but the Stephen A. Smith idea is gaining more traction in my mind. I hate that he's a "centrist" but the Dems need someone LIKE THAT.
Let’s keep score

@FAH1223 is for Steven a smith
@Outlaw is for the rock

I’ve already said I am willing to canvas and be apart of a socioeconomically diverse coalition supporting Dave Batista :mjgrin:

@MAKAVELI25 make the thread. We need to start listing who we need to get behind now before it’s too late
 

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At the RNC they were literally holding up signs advocating hate, including for people that look and sound like him. Trumps (and the republicans for decades) entire campaign is built on hate. This guy is a brainwashed idiot. He reminds me of people we have the displeasure of reading from on here. But thanks for sharing so I know that now.
Man at the end of the day Dems turned off everybody. They squandered a once in a lifetime opportunity and instead of taking the humble route they are crying like spoiled children.
Ofcourse the worldwide majority are going to gravitate to strength. Fuk living scared 💪🏽
 

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To be honest the boundaries of “left wing” and “right wing” defined in the United States are a bit unique.

The Democratic Party has such a broad spectrum that in most countries the “moderate democrats” would be right wing. Certainly moderate democrats would be the right wing party in Germany, UK or Canada. Note I’m not saying Far Right wing.

Edit- checking my citations around Universal Health Care- in 2024 Kamala Harris dropped Universal Health Care as a policy platform for the Democratic Party in the United States. That would put her platform further right on a major issue than the right wing platforms for the right wing parties in Germany, UK and Canada. So perhaps the Overton Window in the U.S. has moved the Democrats to the right of the right wing in those countries now.

It’s just the republican party in the U.S. that is so extreme right wing that it resets the field.

So back to the point saying AI systems lean more left-wing is an American point of view. The right wing in the U.S. rejects a lot of science and facts. So anything factual will lean left in an American view. In the global context I’m not so sure that is true. I’m not sure the study holds up when looked at broadly.

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Citation: Universal Health Care. In 2024 the Democrat nominee for president has a further right wing health care plan than the right wing parties in Germany, UK and Canada by abandoning universal health care as a campaign promise.

Political position on Universal Health Care:
German Christian Democratic Union: https://www.cdu.de/app/uploads/2025/01/wahlprogramm-cdu-csu-kurzfassung-englisch.pdf

U.K Conservative Party: Conservative Party general election manifesto 2024

Canadian Conservative Party: https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/23175001/990863517f7a575.pdf

Kamala Harris: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...l-harris-progressives-2024-elections-00174447
 

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How does this square with the notion that if Kamala was more antagonistic towards Israel it would have led to her having a net gain in support?

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