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Facts.

Everyone should be blue MAGA when it’s general election time. We can debate and squabble during the primaries.

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It’s crazy when you have Bernie and Noam Chomsky saying “uh I know you guys are angry but Trumps a literal fascist, please vote” and they didn’t vote.
 

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Facts.

Everyone should be blue MAGA when it’s general election time. We can debate and squabble during the primaries.

@Robbie3000 @AquaCityBoy @Loose
Ill start this by saying im a well documented bernie hater.

The Democrat party have shown multiple times over the last 12 years it is in fact a undemocratic party. It goes back to when Obama and his establishment forced Hillary accession upon the voting population irregardless of whatever movement that was going on in the background. Same shyt happened in 2020 when the parties establishment collapsed around biden in order to take down Bernie. Something like that has never happened in the republican party, republicans while disgruntled about it embraced trumps maga and the tea party. Dem establishment on the other hand have consistently used some purity measurement when forcibly choosing who should leads the party. This includes nominating gerry connelly dying ass because he's an continuation of the establishment.
 
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Just a gut feeling I have based on asking moderate cacs who voted third party in a swing state and criticism Walz received online from non dem voters.

Walz was seen as in the closet and gay. I completely disagree with that notion obviously but a black woman at the top of the ticket and a closeted gay man as her VP was too much for the vulnerable minded cacs to handle.

IMO Beshear was the best choice


I also don’t see how you can claim it was “bad math” we don’t know how things would play out if she was more pro Palestinian.

She could have lost by bigger margins if she went anti Zionist. The media has been in the bag of Trump for years and any controversy would be weaponized against her
Lemme provide context. I consider the fracturing of her coalition when it wasnt necessary to be bad math. To your point, she could've picked any white boy and he would've gotten demonized, deserved or not. Kamala did get undercut by tech and the media craving Trump World 2.0. My issue is the framing that she had to be Pro Palestine or Pro Zionist, or anything black and white like that.

My feelings are: she's a politician, she could've kept that shyt vague and then ran the same uninspired, pro-zionist policy that America always does. She wanted to beat Trump with a coalition from the left and the right, but thought her support on the left was tighter than it was. Touring with Liz Cheney and talking about her guns didn't do enough.

In your original point you mention that we may not be tapped in with what closed minded cacs say. That's probably true, because they're all brainwashed if they get their news only from Fox. What comes next is we see whats stronger, economic pain or propaganda. Dems could be in a position where people on the right stay home. fukk tryna win over right wingers; depress their vote like they do ours
 

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Ill start this by saying im a well documented bernie hater.

The Democrat party have shown multiple times over the last 12 years it is in fact a undemocratic party. It goes back to when Obama and his establishment forced Hillary accession upon the voting population irregardless of whatever movement that was going on in the background. Same shyt happened in 2020 when the parties establishment collapsed around biden in order to take down Bernie. Something like that has never happened in the republican party, republicans while disgruntled about it embraced trumps maga and the tea party. Dem establishment on the other hand have consistently used some purity measurement when forcibly choosing who should leads the party. This includes nominating gerry connelly dying ass because he's an continuation of the establishment.
Superdelegates. Dems have superdelegates so no tea party can happen. It was done to prevent another McGovern.
 

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This guy breaks it down nicely. U must have a definitive message Not just hate alone.


At the RNC they were literally holding up signs advocating hate, including for people that look and sound like him. Trumps (and the republicans for decades) entire campaign is built on hate. This guy is a brainwashed idiot. He reminds me of people we have the displeasure of reading from on here. But thanks for sharing so I know that now.
 

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This guy breaks it down nicely. U must have a definitive message Not just hate alone.


You post this shyte without looking at the bullshyt bias.

HOW DARE CARDI B!!!

All amber rose did was tell her story...

fukking ridiculous .
 

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This is absolute, fantastical horse shyt. You tried to share rubbish like this before too and I had to call it out.

Liberals are such weirdos and liars.

When has this actually happened? In fact when have the left been in any position of influence in this country since The Great Depression? Utter bullshyt statement that’s imagined by people who wish to be oppressed. You know what I can point to you. The wrecking of the original Build Back Better bill by liberals. The goofy trade agreements that destroyed working class standards by liberals. The hallowing out of the New Deal, by liberals. When all of that happened, the people on the left of the political spectrum went with it because they still believed liberals believed in the United Front.

A huge problem with America today is idiots speaking without an understanding of history.
 
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This is absolute, fantastical horse shyt. You tried to share rubbish like this before too and I had to call it out.

Liberals are such weirdos and liars.

When has this actually happened? In fact when have the left been in any position of influence in this country since The Great Depression? Utter bullshyt statement that’s imagined by people who wish to be oppressed. You know what I can point to you. The rankin of the original Build Back Better bill by liberals. The goofy trade agreements that destroyed working class standards by liberals. The hallowing out of the New Deal, by liberals. When all of that happened, the people on the left of the political spectrum went with it because they still believed liberals believed in the United Front.

A huge problem with America today is idiots speaking without an understanding of history.
Was there a point you wanted to make in this incoherent rambling somewhere?
 
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