Democratic Party Rebuild

[Lucky_Lefty]

Some of you nikkas need to log off for a while

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Like you said, America has wanted something different since 2008.

That something different was rooted in a lot of “I want my country back” rhetoric and a grassroots hostile takeover of the Republican Party

 

[Loose]

 

[mastermind]

That something different was rooted in a lot of “I want my country back” rhetoric and a grassroots hostile takeover of the Republican Party

Obama won in 2008

 

[acri1]

Senate parliamentarian has no unilateral control over senate rules, it's a glorified external opinion board.

Not the senate parliamentarian?!

Educate me the Senate can just ignore parliamentarian rules whenever they want?

And had they tried this, you think it would've passed the Senate?


It's weird to me how people expect Dems to do things that the makeup of Congress inherently prevents (but have no such expectations of the GOP).

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Folks need to learn one important lesson

Every and anything is for sale when it comes to power. Morals, policy positions you name it.

Focus on personal success and growth. And stop thinking the next candidate is the answer you've been seeking.

I've learned staying off TV, social media has been therapeutic.

 

[mastermind]

Educate me the Senate can just ignore parliamentarian rules whenever they want?

Yes

And had they tried this, you think it would've passed the Senate?

No because some Dems would have voted against it. (That’s the jig you keep falling for)

 

[acri1]

Yes

No because some Dems would have voted against it. (That’s the jig you keep falling for)

I'll assume for the sake of argument that Dems could've just ignored the parliamentary rule completely if they wanted to.

What exactly is Biden or whatever other hypothetical Dem president supposed to do about this? Clearly just telling them to pass it doesn't work.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Senate parliamentarian has no unilateral control over senate rules, it's a glorified external opinion board.

Not the senate parliamentarian?!

I thought this was Higer learning.

The Federal minimum wage is not a budget item. It can’t be changed during reconciliation

 

[Loose]

I'll assume for the sake of argument that Dems could've just ignored the parliamentary rule completely if they wanted to.

What exactly is Biden or whatever other hypothetical Dem president supposed to do about this? Clearly just telling them to pass it doesn't work.

Ask yourself this, what would donald trump or republicans do if a republican senator refused to go along with a major party platform that trump ran on?

 

[CrimsonTider]

I'll assume for the sake of argument that Dems could've just ignored the parliamentary rule completely if they wanted to.

What exactly is Biden or whatever other hypothetical Dem president supposed to do about this? Clearly just telling them to pass it doesn't work.

These dudes are just ad uninformed as their far right counterparts, I want them show us all the none budget items the republicans have passed during reconciliation

im still that they think campaign on the federal minimum Wage will rally voters

 

[AquaCityBoy]

I thought this was Higer learning.

*Higher

The Federal minimum wage is not a budget item. It can’t be changed during reconciliation

“The [presiding officer] rules on points of order, not the parliamentarian; the parliamentarian merely advises the [presiding officer].” In other words, the presiding officer may rule on points of order independently of the parliamentarian. And senators may overturn the ruling of the presiding officer when he or she follows the parliamentarian’s advice.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

im still that they think campaign on the federal minimum Wage will rally voters

That's because you're a shytlib and a shytposter.

Your entire political ideology is "You'll get nothing and like it"

 

[AquaCityBoy]

I'll assume for the sake of argument that Dems could've just ignored the parliamentary rule completely if they wanted to.

What exactly is Biden or whatever other hypothetical Dem president supposed to do about this? Clearly just telling them to pass it doesn't work.

Nothing, just like they always do.

Because why would we expect anything more when Democrats are in power.

 

[mastermind]

I'll assume for the sake of argument that Dems could've just ignored the parliamentary rule completely if they wanted to.

There is no argument. They could have ignored the parliamentarian if they wanted:

The History of Congressional Parliamentarians and Why They Matter

They provide nonpartisan advice and expertise on the legislative process. In recent decades, their role has grown more influential, especially with budgetary matters, but not everyone agrees that’s good.

www.governing.com

They have been overruled in a couple of significant moments. In 1975, Vice President Nelson Rockefeller ignored the parliamentarian’s advice when the Senate debated filibuster rules. In 2013, Democrats overruled MacDonough to eliminate filibusters to approve presidential nominees. In 2017, Republicans further expanded the filibuster ban on Supreme Court nominations.

the precedent is there.

What exactly is Biden or whatever other hypothetical Dem president supposed to do about this? Clearly just telling them to pass it doesn't work.

brudda, you keep talking about the parliamentarian. I am telling you the Dems didn’t have enough senators who wanted to increase the minimum wage.