Democratic Party aide says sports fandom ‘has become associated with right-wing culture’

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Its the simple fact, you dont need a brain surgeon to tell you that most ''bros'' who watch the MMA and the nfl etc are trump supporters, they value machismo and performative acts of being a tough guy over any concrete policy issues. look at their roided up meat head folk hero joe rogan who in a sane society would have no audience for the nonsense he spews on the airwaves to people
Have you ever had any conversations with said bros? Because most of them just want to be seen. You can't ask for people to vote for you when you feel either invisible or vilified by them. That's how you fail. Case in point.

My MMA coach voted for Kamala as did I. But it's clear that she walked into "Black men as a voting base train." Too late stop talking down to people, you want them to vote for you talk to them to explain why the should. Not paid people real people. That shyt isn't really hard.
 

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Have you ever had any conversations with said bros? Because most of them just want to be seen. You can't ask for people to vote for you when you feel either invisible or vilified by them. That's how you fail. Case in point.
This. I'm not really a football guy (outside of my alma mater and my dad's every now and again) but I train MMA. It's probably one of the more diverse groups I participate in ranging from Black dudes, Latinos, White Boys who aren't preppy pompous a$$holes and women who like to scrap. None of them scream MAGA to me and I've been doing martial arts for a whole. Not to say that some aren't and of course it's only my experience. Even the conservative ones I met are just generally politically apathetic.
 

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Funny how Bernie sanders didn't have that problem.

Funny how when he went on a FOX NEWS town hall, they didn't boo him or dismiss his points.

This shyt reminds me of the feminist liberal approach to men who struggle with dating. Rather than telling these men "there are a lot of men out there you're competing with, you might do everything right and still not get any attention. Try building your social networks up and putting yourself in more social situations so you can build your charisma and get better at interacting with women in general. If you're memorable, a friend will recommend you to one of their single friends."

They hear "you must be a piece of shyt who doesn't shower and a misogynist. Women don't owe you anything. Stop being entitled. It's entirely your fault you're in this situation and you low key deserve it"

And the alternative to that is the redpill shyt that tells him "the reason these women don't like you is because you're not good looking enough, and women don't know what they want because they say one thing and do something else. Ignore their wishes and statements just focus on being as dominant as possible, it worked for me!"

One message tells them that they should stay in their lane and women don't want them because they suck. The other tells them that the reason they're not succeeding is that they are focusing on the wrong things. One at least acknowledges that it is a BAD THING that they aren't getting attention and that's the one men go to.

The same can apply to the economy and reaching out to black people who are suffering financially.
 

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This. I'm not really a football guy (outside of my alma mater and my dad's every now and again) but I train MMA. It's probably one of the more diverse groups I participate in ranging from Black dudes, Latinos, White Boys who aren't preppy pompous a$$holes and women who like to scrap. None of them scream MAGA to me and I've been doing martial arts for a whole. Not to say that some aren't and of course it's only my experience. Even the conservative ones I met are just generally politically apathetic.
This is mostly my experience. My gym is mainly black with some Hispanic and Arab. We don't have dudes wearing maga hats and shyt. We're very much against Trump's racism. But the left hasn't provided much visibility or care for black men as a whole..
 

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Funny how Bernie sanders didn't have that problem.

Funny how when he went on a FOX NEWS town hall, they didn't boo him or dismiss his points.

This shyt reminds me of the feminist liberal approach to men who struggle with dating. Rather than telling these men "there are a lot of men out there you're competing with, you might do everything right and still not get any attention. Try building your social networks up and putting yourself in more social situations so you can build your charisma and get better at interacting with women in general. If you're memorable, a friend will recommend you to one of their single friends."

They hear "you must be a piece of shyt who doesn't shower and a misogynist. Women don't owe you anything. Stop being entitled. It's entirely your fault you're in this situation and you low key deserve it"

And the alternative to that is the redpill shyt that tells him "the reason these women don't like you is because you're not good looking enough, and women don't know what they want because they say one thing and do something else. Ignore their wishes and statements just focus on being as dominant as possible, it worked for me!"

One message tells them that they should stay in their lane and women don't want them because they suck. The other tells them that the reason they're not succeeding is that they are focusing on the wrong things. One at least acknowledges that it is a BAD THING that they aren't getting attention and that's the one men go to.

The same can apply to the economy and reaching out to black people who are suffering financially.
Anyone who doesn't see the above just doesn't care about the people they claim to talk to.
 

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Let’s have less of this and more talk about what will these people do. This shyt is getting old
 
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They come up with every excuse for losing.
And sure, maybe all these things on the margin COULD have helped the Democrats win.

But the big reason the Democrats lost is because too many white women voted for Trump.

That's the fukkin answer.

You don't need to have panels on CNN wondering about who black men voted for, or if Latinos in Miami tilted things in Republicans favor.

Ask yourselves why all these white women voted for the p*ssy grabber.
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Other than Mexican men, only ones to really blame and Jill Biden actions are showing you that now.
 

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Also I despise the idea that men are just a bunch of sexual deviants and predators.

Lesbian women and bisexual women experience MORE sexual assault, rape, and inter partner violence than heterosexual couples but EVIL MEN hurr durr.

I've also been attacked by two exes, women but many women in the political sphere are uncomfortable with these conversations. Hence intersectional Invisibility
 

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Also I despise the idea that men are just a bunch of sexual deviants and predators.

Lesbian women and bisexual women experience MORE sexual assault, rape, and inter partner violence than heterosexual couples but EVIL MEN hurr durr.

I've also been attacked by two exes, women but many women in the political sphere are uncomfortable with these conversations. Hence intersectional Invisibility
Only ones open about it are the survivors of it.

Had a chick say she dated a chick once and wanted to fukk her up sometimes… so :yeshrug:
 

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This is mostly my experience. My gym is mainly black with some Hispanic and Arab. We don't have dudes wearing maga hats and shyt. We're very much against Trump's racism. But the left hasn't provided much visibility or care for black men as a whole..
One hundred percent on all accounts. I'm starting to hate it.

My coach right now is a pretty left leaning dude, but is pro 2a. Latino guy. I recall him posting about the racism towards the woman who won gold in boxing and people were calling her a man etc. I always knew he was a good dude though.
 

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Only ones open about it are the survivors of it.

Had a chick say she dated a chick once and wanted to fukk her up sometimes… so :yeshrug:
The academic narrative of intersectionalality has to make men oppressors and all other groups victims.

Glad people are seeing through their bullshyt and these aren't MAGA folks. These are folks that are left leaning that are just sick of far left bullshyt
 
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