Democratic Party aide says sports fandom ‘has become associated with right-wing culture’

[Robbie3000]

You rushed in to make this statement, not noticting that in a later statement I pointed out JD vance could be judged too. My statement was general, you can judge any man by how he moves, carries himself, act. It does not mater his profession.

You just exposed how you move via pure emotions. A desire to defend the side you support. Unfortunately for you and your defense, I support neither side and will judge each as I see them. Your inability to see beyond your biases is just as bad as a MAGAs inability to do the same. You are a mirror image of that you revile, and you are not self-aware enough to notice it.

I quoted your post verbatim weirdo. You think I’m scrolling to see what other brain dead nonsense you have to say?

Imagine with all the issues facing this country and a man his vote for @Another Man based on his level of masculinity.

 

[No1]

Ironically if LBJ only goal was winning elections, the landmark civil rights of the 1960s don’t get passed.

LBJ told Dixiecrats to fukk off knowing fully well he would the south forever in order to do the right thing.

People, not you necessarily you, gotta stop looking at elections as a horse race. What good is attaining power if you don’t have a world view that you believe in?

LBJ also felt that he would have the black vote forever to offset it bro (and he wasn’t wrong). I get it - you need to have a vision. But I would argue that the Democratic Party’s problem is that they don’t have a coherent vision that can unify different demographics of people. You and I both think Sanders should’ve won. And I think he had a unifying message and then when in power you also protect all these groups of people - like he had his whole career. And they tried to slander him as sexist and racist for not centering those issues knowing that they won’t bring out unlikely voters. The last two Trump victories have been about him identifying unlikely voters and recognizing that social media and podcasts have transplanted conventional media. The less you watched mainstream media; the more likely you were to vote for Trump. And where are dudes getting their media - from things they naturally follow like the gym. They’re being redpilled without even knowing it. My argument is basically to not surrender that space because that’s where those voters on the margins are and they vote on vibes. Elections are not decided by informed voters, they never have been.

The most reliable democratic voting block is black people and black people were 50-50 on gay marriage when it became legal and it didn’t cause any shift in support because we voted Dems for other reasons. Dems need to simultaneously have a singular economic message and make it clear that there is a space for the “less refined” to be a part of that. I legit watched this campaign as Democratic staffs in many swing states, which were disproportionately LGBT and women struggled to talk to straight dudes. They legitimately didn’t seem comfortable around them the way a dude from around the way like me is. And then that discomfort was reciprocated. You’re trying to communicate to people using the language you use in your white collar office when these people (a bunch of constructions dudes as an example) don’t have access to those rooms.

The other thing - and that should be a whole spinoff thread is the gender gap in education that is beginning as early as childhood and the causes and how that is resulting in the different ways men and women are interacting with the world in the US.

 

[Uachet]

I quoted your post verbatim weirdo. You think I’m scrolling to see what other brain dead nonsense you have to say?

Imagine with all the issues facing this country and a man his vote for @Another Man based on his level of masculinity.

I have more than one post in this thread though. Also, look at you. Resorting to this, because you can't argue against the fact that my statement points out you judge a man by how he carries himself, not by his past positions. Something, I also mentioned about how J.D. Vance having been a marine does not negate if he is effeminate or not.

As you prove again, you are what you complain about. You are the same as the conservatives you point fingers at. Neither of you are capable of being unbiased. You are a mirror to each other, both doing the spiderman pointing at each other meme, because both of you are hypocrits that do the same thing.

 

[Robbie3000]

I have more than one post in this thread though. Also, look at you. Resorting to this, because you can't argue against the fact that my statement points out you judge a man by how he carries himself, not by his past positions. Something, I also mentioned about how J.D. Vance having been a marine does not negate if he is effeminate or not.

As you prove again, you are what you complain about. You are the same as the conservatives you point fingers at. Neither of you are capable of being unbiased. You are a mirror to each other, both doing the spiderman pointing at each other meme, because both of you are hypocrits that do the same thing.

If you are basing your vote on another man’s masculinity that says more about you than that candidate. What’s next, he needs to have broad shoulders, big arms and a square jaw?

 

[O.Red]

That’s the VP elect of the party of masculinity.

I wanna know more but also I don't

 

[the bossman]

I legit watched this campaign as Democratic staffs in many swing states, which were disproportionately LGBT and women struggled to talk to straight dudes. They legitimately didn’t seem comfortable around them the way a dude from around the way like me is. And then that discomfort was reciprocated. You’re trying to communicate to people using the language you use in your white collar office when these people (a bunch of constructions dudes as an example) don’t have access to those rooms.

damn. that's real

 

[feelosofer]

LBJ also felt that he would have the black vote forever to offset it bro (and he wasn’t wrong). I get it - you need to have a vision. But I would argue that the Democratic Party’s problem is that they don’t have a coherent vision that can unify different demographics of people. You and I both think Sanders should’ve won. And I think he had a unifying message and then when in power you also protect all these groups of people - like he had his whole career. And they tried to slander him as sexist and racist for not centering those issues knowing that they won’t bring out unlikely voters. The last two Trump victories have been about him identifying unlikely voters and recognizing that social media and podcasts have transplanted conventional media. The less you watched mainstream media; the more likely you were to vote for Trump. And where are dudes getting their media - from things they naturally follow like the gym. They’re being redpilled without even knowing it. My argument is basically to not surrender that space because that’s where those voters on the margins are and they vote on vibes. Elections are not decided by informed voters, they never have been.

The most reliable democratic voting block is black people and black people were 50-50 on gay marriage when it became legal and it didn’t cause any shift in support because we voted Dems for other reasons. Dems need to simultaneously have a singular economic message and make it clear that there is a space for the “less refined” to be a part of that. I legit watched this campaign as Democratic staffs in many swing states, which were disproportionately LGBT and women struggled to talk to straight dudes. They legitimately didn’t seem comfortable around them the way a dude from around the way like me is. And then that discomfort was reciprocated. You’re trying to communicate to people using the language you use in your white collar office when these people (a bunch of constructions dudes as an example) don’t have access to those rooms.

The other thing - and that should be a whole spinoff thread is the gender gap in education that is beginning as early as childhood and the causes and how that is resulting in the different ways men and women are interacting with the world in the US.

You made a lot of good points. The Democrats need to simplify their message instead of trying message from a point of moral and intellectual superiority

 

[the bossman]

You made a lot of good points. The Democrats need to simplify their message instead of trying message from a point of moral and intellectual superiority

for that to happen a lot of these old cacs need to die out first. the Biden Pelosi Schumer types. they have too much of a stranglehold on the party

 

[O.Red]

LBJ also felt that he would have the black vote forever to offset it bro (and he wasn’t wrong). I get it - you need to have a vision. But I would argue that the Democratic Party’s problem is that they don’t have a coherent vision that can unify different demographics of people. You and I both think Sanders should’ve won. And I think he had a unifying message and then when in power you also protect all these groups of people - like he had his whole career. And they tried to slander him as sexist and racist for not centering those issues knowing that they won’t bring out unlikely voters. The last two Trump victories have been about him identifying unlikely voters and recognizing that social media and podcasts have transplanted conventional media. The less you watched mainstream media; the more likely you were to vote for Trump. And where are dudes getting their media - from things they naturally follow like the gym. They’re being redpilled without even knowing it. My argument is basically to not surrender that space because that’s where those voters on the margins are and they vote on vibes. Elections are not decided by informed voters, they never have been.

The most reliable democratic voting block is black people and black people were 50-50 on gay marriage when it became legal and it didn’t cause any shift in support because we voted Dems for other reasons. Dems need to simultaneously have a singular economic message and make it clear that there is a space for the “less refined” to be a part of that. I legit watched this campaign as Democratic staffs in many swing states, which were disproportionately LGBT and women struggled to talk to straight dudes. They legitimately didn’t seem comfortable around them the way a dude from around the way like me is. And then that discomfort was reciprocated. You’re trying to communicate to people using the language you use in your white collar office when these people (a bunch of constructions dudes as an example) don’t have access to those rooms.

The other thing - and that should be a whole spinoff thread is the gender gap in education that is beginning as early as childhood and the causes and how that is resulting in the different ways men and women are interacting with the world in the US.

Facts and so much of what you said strongly applies to black people, particularly black males

It was hilarious seeing Dems attempts at reaching men because it was clear there were no straight or even assertive men around to guide or inform them

You see this same them with Dems and how they view and speak to black people. The bulk of their interactions with blackness are through media, the books they read in academic adjacent spaces, and the one black friend they have that didn't even grow up around black people. It bleeds through their language and messaging

To your gender gap in education point it's been clear for decades that schooling caters more to girls than boys. Schools have been curated to praise and reward more feminine behaviors while demonizing more naturally male traits seen in boys. 15 years of this has an effect, and we're seeing it in young men's dismissal of school, and that's on top of seeing higher education as a scam

Of course this also applies to the workforce and why you tend to see so many women in corporate America and more HR focused employment. Jobs like these are for agreeable, less aggressive people that are less likely to ask for raises and express discontent at exploitation

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Been saying this for years

Dems are a party led by the almighty liberal white woman, and the almighty liberal white woman is a social tyrant

That passive aggressive, control freak, mean girl behavior has permeated all forms of liberal discourse and that's how grown Dem men take their talking points and debate tactics from the code of reactionary feminists and end up sounding like bytches. This is a conflict of interest with a lot of reasonable male Dems

Anyone that's around Dems/liberals outside of work settings know that awkward feeling of everyone talking like there's an invisible HR manager watching. That's why so many people sound like NPCs now

At the coloured part - This is especially true.