"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

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Also thats, not the case for sure, he could still want out in 2 years.

Mitchell is just not as good. KAT is soft and plays no defense.

Let's just wait. Zion, RJ, 3rd option Quickley is better in a couple of years.
Breh stop with this nonsense . Yes Mitchell isn’t perfect but no player is But He has ties to the area and seemingly wants to come back . We have no idea if Zion anf Kat who both also got huge extensions want to come here and if they do we won’t have the assets anymore by that time . We will have to pay RJ Cam then quick and obi .This isn’t grocery shopping a lot of the moves and trades happen with the players input as well . As we see mUrray wanted to play with Trae .
 

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I can’t predict the future but did you know KD and Donovan Mitchell would be on the market this summer… last summer?

:comeon:
Trades and FA happens every year, and every year or two somebody fukks up and another team prospers… Word to Brunson.
Yes it’s been said for years that Donovan would ask out of. Utah especially after two years ago playoff lose .
 

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In general, I find Knicks fans more risk averse with their prospects. So I’m with you. But I also think that when the media says “pressure from Knicks fans” they really just mean “overreaction from general nba fans that don’t watch the Knicks like that.” I don’t know why the two get conflated but it always happens.
The Stephen A fake fandom types.
 

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VanVleet started zero games and averaged less minutes than Danny Green. Good try though
Their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 10th most used line up in the playoffs featured VanVleet and Lowry.

VanVleet and Lowry were together for a large portion of time en route to the championship and the next season started every game and made it to the ECSF.
 

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bro I disagree with you on a fundamental level. Unless you have All time level talented bigs you’re not winning a chip with them as your best player. Wings and avg to big SG win the majority of chips.
This isn’t true.

It was said you couldn’t win with a ball hog like Jordan and he was the first SG to really lead his team to titles.

I would really stay away from any team building cliches. In every era it’s something new.

These star wings are not infallible shyt you start doubling and trapping guys like Tatum, KD, Booker and they fold. :russell:

Like I said all the majority of the star wings are aging and none are coming here. That’s why I asked you who.
 

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Tbh I think a deal gets done . With like 4-5 firsts and 2 swaps ( that won’t convey ) and built around alike Fournier and McBride . Realistically Miami would be good so what benefit do you get from their picks and herro may make you bettef than the spurs etc in a strong draft .
 

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Tbh I think a deal gets done . With like 4-5 firsts and 2 swaps ( that won’t convey ) and built around alike Fournier and McBride . Realistically Miami would be good so what benefit do you get from their picks and herro may make you bettef than the spurs etc in a strong draft .
From what we know they don't want Herro for the same reason they don't want Barrett.
One year away from RFA and Jazz know either one of them gonna put up numbers on that nothing team and ask for max extension
 

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A shot after a single season Amare with young players that amounted to not much more than role players was where it was at :whoo:
People have some bizarre memories of that Carmelo trade. The Knicks had their best record in like 15 years, 2 years after that trade happened but they act like it destroyed the team :heh:
Amare declining rapidly after 1 year did more damage than that trade did
Phil Jackson making absolutely abysmal move after abysmal move as team president sunk them even further
No one ever wants to talk about what happens if we didn't make that trade. i can't think of any scenario where we are better off if we didnt lmao
 

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Everytime Ainge calls Rose I hope Rose takes more off the trade. Just as a FU.

i feel like we have leverage here
they kinda burned da bridge shoppin him like this in the first place. i doubt him and the jazz will get back on good terms. He has to go somewhere and we have by far da best offer.


lets be patient and let it play out.
We have all the leverage Ainge can go to hell
 
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