De La Hoya: It’s the right time to make Canelo vs. Spence

[R=G]

I’m with it. You mean wins by KO right?

A win is a win? But 1200 if the other guy wins by KO.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

A win is a win? But 1200 if the other guy wins by KO.

Cool I’m with it

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Let me in on this

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

he could. but he'd still punch in spurts and rest on the ropes a lot too. thats when spence would go to work and be a lot more aggressive than a very cautious golovkin was. he'd need to get spence out of there, because that pattern of being on the ropes and trying to rest for long periods of a round are just going to invite spence to go to work on him. its a difference of temperament. golovkin was cautious. spence is more ferocious. canelo would feel those rounds start to catch up to him.

Little g was cautious for a reason. obviously he felt the power in canelo's shots. And spence would too. brook clearly staggered spence with a right hand that had him on queer street for a good minute. Spence is still very rough around the edges. Canelo would be the clear favorite at this moment. Not even as a canelo stan but just looking at their overall talent. Spences defensive flaws would do him in before canelo's stamina gave out. That's how I see it.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

He won’t have the stamina to hit ESJ with flush combos? Why’s that? Errol doesn’t move his head really, and doesn’t have a problem being hit.

You think that’s more far fetched then......ESJ going to an all new weight class fighting and then KOing one of the better fights at 160, who’s never been KD let alone KOd? Gotcha

I honestly have no idea how spence could win this fight other than canelo completely gassing out in round 1. I mean fukk size, Canelo is flat out better than spence off pure skillset. The size is just an exclamation point.

Power- Canelo
Defense- Canelo
Speed- Canelo
Offense- Canelo
Accuracy- Canelo


I mean wtf........Spence is WIDE open in every fight. Brook was hitting him with FLUSH right hands and uppercuts. Not grazing, not even halfway landing....I'm talking 100% FLUSH hay makers. And canelo is by far a more complete offensive and defensive fighter than brook. Far faster and far more accurate. Spence would be getting slipped and tagged very early with some very nasty shyt. He probably wouldn't make it past the 6th. And I say that with the utmost respect for spences skill. But there's levels to this and spence is simply not on canelo's level as a boxer. Period.


People bring up canelo's close fight with Lara as if spence is a better boxer than prime Lara. If kell brook could box spence that well, Prime Lara would outbox spence rather smoothly. The only fighter under 154 that could truly give canelo problems from a pure skill standpoint is Terrence Crawford. He's got the tools to actually do the same shyt that floyd did. That's still a toss up cause they both have strengths and weaknesses....but off skillset, tcraw would be the toughest for canelo. Errol spence is tailor made for canelo. Come forward fighter with average defense, a small frame, and not even a single CLEAR advantage over canelo besides stamina. Sorry, but spence would get lit the fukk up and stopped

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I honestly have no idea how spence could win this fight other than canelo completely gassing out in round 1. I mean fukk size, Canelo is flat out better than spence off pure skillset. The size is just an exclamation point.

Power- Canelo
Defense- Canelo
Speed- Canelo
Offense- Canelo
Accuracy- Canelo


I mean wtf........Spence is WIDE open in every fight. Brook was hitting him with FLUSH right hands and uppercuts. Not grazing, not even halfway landing....I'm talking 100% FLUSH hay makers. And canelo is by far a more complete offensive and defensive fighter than brook. Far faster and far more accurate. Spence would be getting slipped and tagged very early with some very nasty shyt. He probably wouldn't make it past the 6th. And I say that with the utmost respect for spences skill. But there's levels to this and spence is simply not on canelo's level as a boxer. Period.


People bring up canelo's close fight with Lara as if spence is a better boxer than prime Lara. If kell brook could box spence that well, Prime Lara would outbox spence rather smoothly. The only fighter under 154 that could truly give canelo problems from a pure skill standpoint is Terrence Crawford. He's got the tools to actually do the same shyt that floyd did. That's still a toss up cause they both have strengths and weaknesses....but off skillset, tcraw would be the toughest for canelo. Errol spence is tailor made for canelo. Come forward fighter with average defense, a small frame, and not even a single CLEAR advantage over canelo besides stamina. Sorry, but spence would get lit the fukk up and stopped

C/S damn near everything except for the Brook fight, I need to re-watch that.

But don't forget The Ring (understandably, because he's a cheating fakkit) hates Canelo, and lovesssssssss Spence. Thus we tend to look at things through a biased lens. Lets not forget there's a reason Spence dropped down from 154 to 147 11 ish fights into his career.

 

[Yuzo]

I honestly have no idea how spence could win this fight other than canelo completely gassing out in round 1. I mean fukk size, Canelo is flat out better than spence off pure skillset. The size is just an exclamation point.

Power- Canelo
Defense- Canelo
Speed- Canelo
Offense- Canelo
Accuracy- Canelo


I mean wtf........Spence is WIDE open in every fight. Brook was hitting him with FLUSH right hands and uppercuts. Not grazing, not even halfway landing....I'm talking 100% FLUSH hay makers. And canelo is by far a more complete offensive and defensive fighter than brook. Far faster and far more accurate. Spence would be getting slipped and tagged very early with some very nasty shyt. He probably wouldn't make it past the 6th. And I say that with the utmost respect for spences skill. But there's levels to this and spence is simply not on canelo's level as a boxer. Period.


People bring up canelo's close fight with Lara as if spence is a better boxer than prime Lara. If kell brook could box spence that well, Prime Lara would outbox spence rather smoothly. The only fighter under 154 that could truly give canelo problems from a pure skill standpoint is Terrence Crawford. He's got the tools to actually do the same shyt that floyd did. That's still a toss up cause they both have strengths and weaknesses....but off skillset, tcraw would be the toughest for canelo. Errol spence is tailor made for canelo. Come forward fighter with average defense, a small frame, and not even a single CLEAR advantage over canelo besides stamina. Sorry, but spence would get lit the fukk up and stopped

i dont doubt spence would get hit, the same way i dont doubt canelo would get tired and start to take rounds off resting on the ropes. that is the worst place to put yourself against spence, and after a few rounds, canelo would start to do it every round. the complexion of the fight would suddenly tilt, as it moves from the center of the ring and boxing on the outside, to the ropes and in close fighting on the inside. i also dont doubt that spence can give you a hard 12 rounds, the same way i dont doubt that canelo cant.

i think canelo is in a wierd place as a middleweight, that he's not a good enough boxer to just assume he outboxes spence for 12 rounds in a mayweather preformance, and he's not a big enough puncher to just assume he can knock spence out. if he couldnt knock spence out, he'd have to outwork him to beat him, and theres no way he could do that either. if he didnt have to take rounds off, if he didnt have to rest on the ropes, if he didnt punch in spurts with 30 second rest periods in between, the patterns that emerge in that fight would be different. but they arent. even if spence isnt a perfect fighter, he is the perfect fighter to exploit those exact problems.

 

[Inferno]

I think Canelo would take it. I’d watch the Fuk out of that fight though

 

[mr. smoke weed]

i dont doubt spence would get hit, the same way i dont doubt canelo would get tired and start to take rounds off resting on the ropes. that is the worst place to put yourself against spence, and after a few rounds, canelo would start to do it every round. the complexion of the fight would suddenly tilt, as it moves from the center of the ring and boxing on the outside, to the ropes and in close fighting on the inside. i also dont doubt that spence can give you a hard 12 rounds, the same way i dont doubt that canelo cant.

i think canelo is in a wierd place as a middleweight, that he's not a good enough boxer to just assume he outboxes spence for 12 rounds in a mayweather preformance, and he's not a big enough puncher to just assume he can knock spence out. if he couldnt knock spence out, he'd have to outwork him to beat him, and theres no way he could do that either. if he didnt have to take rounds off, if he didnt have to rest on the ropes, if he didnt punch in spurts with 30 second rest periods in between, the patterns that emerge in that fight would be different. but they arent. even if spence isnt a perfect fighter, he is the perfect fighter to exploit those exact problems.

So Spence just needs to trade with Canelo until he gasses out?

 

[Yuzo]

So Spence just needs to trade with Canelo until he gasses out?

canelo punches in spurts. spence has to come in behind that double jab he likes to feel guys out with and add on to it in between canelo's spurts. thats what spence is real good at. feeling you out with his jab and sensing when its time to add on more punches to it and when he can or cant run numbers on you. canelo uses up so much energy to throw every single punch, that he has to take a lot of breaks. thats why he drifts to the ropes. thats why he wont do anything for 30 seconds in between punching. all those breaks he has to take in between his spurts are all moments that spence gets a green light to run numbers on him. thats a pattern that you would see repeating a lot. a pattern that is compounded by another pattern. canelo's stamina fading late and spence coming on strong late.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

canelo punches in spurts. spence has to come in behind that double jab he likes to feel guys out with and add on to it in between canelo's spurts. thats what spence is real good at. feeling you out with his jab and sensing when its time to add on more punches to it and when he can or cant run numbers on you. canelo uses up so much energy to throw every single punch, that he has to take a lot of breaks. thats why he drifts to the ropes. thats why he wont do anything for 30 seconds in between punching. all those breaks he has to take in between his spurts are all moments that spence gets a green light to run numbers on him. thats a pattern that you would see repeating a lot. a pattern that is compounded by another pattern. canelo's stamina fading late and spence coming on strong late.

I don’t disagree with you on any of this. That being said, do you think Errol Spence can go through 12 rounds of punches from canelo? BC you and I know he isn’t moving his head well enough to slip those left hooks and right hands.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I don’t disagree with you on any of this. That being said, do you think Errol Spence can go through 12 rounds of punches from canelo? BC you and I know he isn’t moving his head well enough to slip those left hooks and right hands.

That's the thing we trying to tell you breh. 12 rds of punches from Canelo is more like 6 rounds.

 

[Yuzo]

I don’t disagree with you on any of this. That being said, do you think Errol Spence can go through 12 rounds of punches from canelo? BC you and I know he isn’t moving his head well enough to slip those left hooks and right hands.

i dont know enough about boxing to tell you that confidently. for any fight there are multiple outcomes. just has to be your night. but cotto went 12 with him and was never hurt, and he hit angulo with everything before he got gifted one of those well he wasnt going to win anyway stoppages to be able to get him out of there. id say, its not a given that spence wont be able to take his punches. just dont forget, spence is going to be catching him with some hot shyt too.

 

[Skip b]

I'm not a Thurman fan at all. He spent a few years calling out Floyd Mayweather jr on the edge of retirement, just bc he wanted that big early pay day, his two toughest fights were very close and he's done everything he can to avoid rematches with either guy, and he's allowed a young inexperienced fighter punk him for the last 3 years. What kind of the fight game bullshyt is that? Thurman is the 3rd or 4th best fighter in his class nowadays, a class he was supposed to rule 3 years ago. I'm not fan of big mouth fighters who try to hustle the fight game for quick, easy pay days. Thurman is not willing to be the man of his class bc he's too scared to lose...he can KIM

Chill I fukk with heel troll Thurman

 

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