David Banner Talks About Kendrick Lamar, And Says "Most Black People Don't Want To Be Black"

[George's Dilemma]

You have to ask question if most black people love being black, blacks wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

I studied psychology so from my assessment being in the hood, suburbs, and upper class blacks. Majority of blacks don't want to be black.

edit post: The other day I was walking home and it started to rain, and I didn't have an umbrella. At that very moment I realized that I didn't like being Black.

 

[K.Dot]

He's right, cacs will always try to profit off of anything they can and have no shame in doing so. The only reason they shut down the Black Panther Party was because they couldn't find a way to make money off of them.

Nah, the panthers fukked up with that socialist shyt, MLK and X too.

 

[K.Dot]

He's right, cacs will always try to profit off of anything they can and have no shame in doing so. The only reason they shut down the Black Panther Party was because they couldn't find a way to make money off of them.

Nah, the panthers fukked up with that socialist shyt, MLK and X too.

 

[NoHalfWay]

Though I was interested in what he was saying in the 2nd half

But I'll listen to this for a 2nd time later

He definitely wasn't lying about how cacs make money off us by exploiting the culture.

Breh was about to go in on Kendrick but censored himself

 

[JustCKing]

Good video

Most black ppl don't want to be black, I agree, most are sell-outs, most put their brothers and sisters down on national TV to get crumbs from white folks, most plantation buck to be accepted by whites, if that's not wanting to be black then I don't know what it is..
You can't say that you wanna be black but do those acts, it happens on the national level, Ray Lewis as well as a local level, look at the c00n ass black man on your job, that's not being black, that's trying to be something else besides black.

It's more than him saying, I hate being black (as I hate the color of my skin) it's I hate being black because of what all I have to go through and what comes with being black. It's alot of folks that are like that, They don't want to accept being black and helping other black ppl, they would rather tear other blacks down and again, shuck and jive for white approval.

Again he's not saying IMO, black ppl are saying they don't want to be black because of their skin is black, he's speaking in terms of a psychology stand point of being black while living on this earth and how hard it is.

I get what he saying, but saying "most" is still an issue. On top of that, it's a contradictory statement especially when listening to what he says about rich white people exploiting being revolutionary for profit. He falls into that category. They still get $$$$ off of what he's saying. Even if he's out here calling Black people c00ns and sell-outs, he's still in a sense tearing down another Black, while they profit off his message.

 

[H. Selassie]

Banner strikes me as someone who picked up a "Pro-Blackness for Dummies" book. He speaks in generalized extremes and not in-depth knowledge.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

So Latinos & Asians don't suffer from self esteem issues as well? Asians have built a great economic base for themselves, but a lot of them want to be white as well. African Americans marry each other at a much higher rate than any other group, so i don't subscribe to the theory that most of us hate being black.

Sure, there is exceptions to everything, but is majority of Asians wanting to be white ? He'll no, I wouldn't even say half. If that was the case Asia wouldn't be what it is right now and let white people take over.

We gotta stop looking at the surface and get to the root of this problem. How many black women walk around with permed hair and go by white standard of beauty ? How many blacks date lighter than their skin color(including light skin blacks and the light skin black woman gets more praise than the brown or dark skin women) hopes to kill off their brown or dark skin by having light skin kids. How many blacks (especially successful blacks) see the white women as the prize to have. How many blacks brag about clothing that white people makes, even though those whites who make it don't like black people. 90 percent of the brain is unconscious and 10 percent is conscious, watch people unconscious actions and you see how much majority of blacks hate being black.

Like I'm assuming you're a cowboys fan right ? You're supporting a white owner exploiting blacks for money instead of boycotting his actions. See how deep it goes ? Not to diss you or anything, just wanna paint your mind with a big picture. If you love being black you wouldnt let others exploit your people.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

That's not what he's referring to and if he is, then he's included. Being pimped is a whole other issue. David Banner is speaking in general. He's not talking about being pimped. He's talking about Black people not wanting to be Black, but want to be accepted by white people to the point of denying or shying away from their Blackness.

Based on that, you can't make that generalization. It's not assessment because it's still based on an assumption. Even if you study groups of people, that doesn't mean "most". It's a sample size, which can be used as information to make an assessment about a group. It doesn't make it 100% accurate

You don't know or represent the majority of Blacks. You don't know their hearts, minds, or souls. Therefore you're not qualified to make that assessment. Neither is David Banner.

I don't care if you mastered in Pyschology, it has nothing to do with getting to the root of every problem. You're feeding into a fallacy based on a generalization.

Listen, you don't have to know every black to know something, if that was the case sociology wouldn't be taught. I can say that it's true by the predicament blacks are in right now because a people who love who they are, wouldn't go for the shyt that's been happening since being freed from slavery. How can you respect yourself and look in the mirror and be happy when another race people control your whole life ? Everything you have is because of white people and If they cut off black people right now, you won't have shyt. A race of people with self- respect and dignity wouldn't go for that, they would change their sad predicament, but like Malcolm X said he caught more hate from blacks even though he was trying to free them.

Remember, in slavery blacks were taught to see world through white people eyes and that's still going on today. So yes, I can say majority of blacks hate who they are cause they show it.

Blacks are being manipulated, pimped, and exterminated off face of earth and are not doing anything about it, and you love yourself how again ?

 

[10:31]

What the hell happened to this nikka

 

[A.R.$]

I think some of you are taking it too literally. I wouldn't of said most Black people, but in general he is right about most of the other stuff in the interview.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

Well, he's not wrong.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

He was about to go IN on Kendrick.




I've been saying the same shyt about Kendrick.

 

[JustCKing]

Listen, you don't have to know every black to know something, if that was the case sociology wouldn't be taught. I can say that it's true by the predicament blacks are in right now because a people who love who they are, wouldn't go for the shyt that's been happening since being freed from slavery. How can you respect yourself and look in the mirror and be happy when another race people control your whole life ? Everything you have is because of white people and If they cut off black people right now, you won't have shyt. A race of people with self- respect and dignity wouldn't go for that, they would change their sad predicament, but like Malcolm X said he caught more hate from blacks even though he was trying to free them.

Remember, in slavery blacks were taught to see world through white people eyes and that's still going on today. So yes, I can say majority of blacks hate who they are cause they show it.

Blacks are being manipulated, pimped, and exterminated off face of earth and are not doing anything about it, and you love yourself how again ?

Yes you do have to know most Black people if you are making a claim about most Black people. That's like making stereotypes acceptable because they are based on generalizations about an entire group or majority of a group of people. They are often unfounded because it's based on observations of a limited group of people and it's often biased.

You're giving white people too much credit and contradicting yourself while doing it. How can you say on one hand that everything I have as a Black person is because of white people all while preaching self-respect?

 

[JustCKing]

He was about to go IN on Kendrick.




I've been saying the same shyt about Kendrick.

He wasn't about to go-in on Kendrick because his point wasn't even about Kendrick. He was more so addressing how the industry exploits revolutionary music for profit and even included Public Enemy in his argument. He even made it a point that he wasn't going to single out one artist because rich still get paid regardless of what the message is. Basically, he's saying it's much bigger than Kendrick.

 

[Piff Perkins]

His argument is laughable and typical of smart dumb dudes. White people are not a monolith, just as black people aren't a monolith. I tend to apply Occam's Razor to shyt like this and look for the simplest explanation, which in this case is that Kendrick released a dope album that critics like. Just as D'Angelo released a dope album that critics like. Both albums came out during particularly tense times in terms of racial issues, and I think that played a role in the reception.

The other point I'd make about critics is that the white critic response has been similar to the black critic response. Remember, Pitchfork's review was written by a black guy. And not just any black guy mind you, but Craig Jenkins - a very well respected music journalist.

There's a weird paranoid aspect to this idea that receiving praise from white people suggests you are being used. It's sucker shyt and frankly it's the type of anti-intellectual nonsense that plagues a lot of so called black voices today. Ta-Nehisi Coates receives a lot of praise from white critics too, is he an agent of the devil too?

Honestly the only interesting point he made seems to be skipped over, as it contradicts one of the dumbest hip hop rumors: that a bunch of white execs decided to make gangsta rap the dominate genre of rap, and also decided to kill the genre's pro black acts. That is bullshyt. As Banner said, execs care about one thing: money. If Tribe sold as well as NWA there would be more Tribes than NWAs. Execs are not concerned about the message of music, nor are they sitting around thinking "haha, the black man will never rise up to stop us mwuahahaha."


I've been in music exec meetings and literally watched Jimmy Iovine shyt on the most ignorant of rap demos because he didn't think it could sell. Likewise I've seen execs cosign positive shyt because they thought it could sell. It's about money. There is no conspiracy there, nor is there some type of union between execs and "the media" to sell negative rap. Negative rap sells itself.