Damn, so the Saudis are pulling a boss move on Putin?

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I'll read this later, but I searched it for "proxy"(no results) and "Saudi" and the only references were to Salafis. This doesn't contradict anything I've said at all. Also most speculation is linking the attackers to Chechnya or Dagestan not the Volga region.


Dude....that shyt is RIGHT there.
Thats like saying because a bomb went off in Atlanta, that it can't be linked to Florida or Louisana:beli: :stopitslime:
 

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Dude....that shyt is RIGHT there.
Thats like saying because a bomb went off in Atlanta, that it can't be linked to Florida or Louisana:beli: :stopitslime:
Lol breh its too late for this tit for tat but you really are trolling right now. They are different regions with different ethnic groups, languages, and histories even though they do share a lot. Lol @ arguing that a region where there were two massive wars( Chechnya) and one that has been comparatively stable (Volga) are the same thing. I don't even know what your point is though, you're going off on tangent after tangent. That article doesn't say anything about Saudi proxies.
 

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Lol breh its too late for this tit for tat but you really are trolling right now. They are different regions with different ethnic groups, languages, and histories even though they do share a lot. Lol @ arguing that a region where there were two massive wars( Chechnya) and one that has been comparatively stable (Volga) are the same thing. I don't even know what your point is though, you're going off on tangent after tangent. That article doesn't say anything about Saudi proxies.

Son.

The ONLY active groups with ANY links to terrorism are LITERALLY a stones throw away.

They hit the 5th largest train station in the country.

Thats not insignificant.

NOT TO MENTION these groups have consistently been shown to be supported by Saudi money...which is a KNOWN state-terrorism exporter...

Umarov is sitting there waiting from his next DHL package from Riyadh as we speak and you're sitting here twiddling your thumbs because you can't connect the dots.

i can't spell this shyt out for you any clearer.
 

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Son.

The ONLY active groups with ANY links to terrorism are LITERALLY a stones throw away.

They hit the 5th largest train station in the country.

Thats not insignificant.

NOT TO MENTION these groups have consistently been shown to be supported by Saudi money...which is a KNOWN state-terrorism exporter...

Umarov is sitting there waiting from his next DHL package from Riyadh as we speak and you're sitting here twiddling your thumbs because you can't connect the dots.

i can't spell this shyt out for you any clearer.
:what: You need to read all the posts in here over again. I was the first person who mentioned Umarov in this thread. Your own source doesn't try to suggest that these groups are propped up by foreign interests, but you are still here trying to push your preconceived notion regardless. Read up on the history of the Caucasus during Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union, and Russia today if you want to understand anything about this conflict, not some contrived b.s. about Bandar threatening Putin. This isnt saying Saudi ideology or private donors have played zero role, but they are simply not the central actors in this or the central motivation and there is nothing out there that contradicts this.
 

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:what: You need to read all the posts in here over again. I was the first person who mentioned Umarov in this thread. Your own source doesn't try to suggest that these groups are propped up by foreign interests, but you are still here trying to push your preconceived notion regardless. Read up on the history of the Caucasus during Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union, and Russia today if you want to understand anything about this conflict, not some contrived b.s. about Bandar threatening Putin. This isnt saying Saudi ideology or private donors have played zero role, but they are simply not the central actors in this or the central motivation and there is nothing out there that contradicts this.

we can go back to the fukking crimean war if you want but none of that matters.

Bandar has been threatening nikkas since the 90s with his underhanded jihadis-on-payroll shyt and US intel has known about it.

I don't know why you're so ready to cape for these nikkas.

Saudi Arabia is sitting here just perpetuating this violence and stoking the flames of a people that already on edge. Hell, russia had to install puppet governors just to ensure SOME modicum of peace in that hell hole.
 

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we can go back to the fukking crimean war if you want but none of that matters.

Bandar has been threatening nikkas since the 90s with his underhanded jihadis-on-payroll shyt and US intel has known about it.

I don't know why you're so ready to cape for these nikkas.

Saudi Arabia is sitting here just perpetuating this violence and stoking the flames of a people that already on edge. Hell, russia had to install puppet governors just to ensure SOME modicum of peace in that hell hole.

:heh: You're just talkin out of your ass. Bandar was the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. throughout the 90s and Saudi- U.S. relations were what he was confined to. The amount of times you've name dropped him tells me you: 1) Really like the sound of his name or 2) You don't know any other Saudi royals except the one who speaks fluent English and liked to talk a lot on American TV


You haven't contradicted what I said aside from vague claims about US intel. To say the actual history and politics of the regions in question don't matter makes it obvious your posts aren't to be taken seriously. I'll let you continue your movie fantasy scenario though.
 

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:heh: You're just talkin out of your ass. Bandar was the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. throughout the 90s and Saudi- U.S. relations were what he was confined to. The amount of times you've name dropped him tells me you: 1) Really like the sound of his name or 2) You don't know any other Saudi royals except the one who speaks fluent English and liked to talk a lot on American TV


You haven't contradicted what I said aside from vague claims about US intel. To say the actual history and politics of the regions in question don't matter makes it obvious your posts aren't to be taken seriously. I'll let you continue your movie fantasy scenario though.

Bandar-Bush. i know plenty about him. I also know he's the top intel guy in KSA and since 9/11 he's been a thorn in the side of the international community.
 

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http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2013/12/terrorism-russia


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Terrorism in Russia
A threat made real
Dec 30th 2013, 15:41 by A.O. | MOSCOW


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TWO bomb attacks in the southern city of Volgograd within 24 hours have killed more than 30 people, injured over 100 and brought the city once known as Stalingrad into a state of terror. The latest bomb, the third in three months, ripped through a trolley-bus in the morning rush-hour, killing at least 14 people. This came less than a day after a bomb went off at a railway station—one of the most closely guarded places in the city—killing 17 people. Both explosions appear to have been set off by suicide bombers. Although nobody has claimed responsibility, the attacks are most likely the work of Islamist fundamentalists from the North Caucasus.

Coming just six weeks before Russia’s winter Olympics in Sochi, only a few hundred miles from the North Caucasus, the attacks bear out a threat made by Doku Umarov, the self-proclaimed emir of the North Caucasus and the leader of a terrorist group. In July Mr Umarov called on his followers to use all means possible to disrupt the Olympic games, and lifted a moratorium on attacking civilian targets on Russian territory which had been in place since December 2011’s anti-government protests in Moscow. The coordinated attacks suggest that a well organised cell is operating in Volgograd, one of the main transport hubs in the south of Russia and a symbol of Soviet resistance during the second world war.

In October a female suicide bomber from Dagestan in the North Caucasus set off a bomb on a Moscow-bound bus, killing six people. Less than a month later her ethnically Russian husband and four other militants were killed in a stand-off with security services. The attack on the railway station on December 29th appears to have been carried out by a Russian man identified as Pavel Pechenkin, who converted to Islam and was linked to one of the North Caucasus terrorist groups.

Ekaterina Sokiryanskaya, a Caucasus expert at International Crisis Group (ICG), a think-tank, says the latest attacks illustrate a new trend in the way the terrorists operate. Whereas a few years ago most suicide bombings were carried out by Chechen women seeking to avenge their killed relatives, the recent bombings are the work of ideologically motivated jihadists from the neighboring Dagestan—some of them ethnic-Russian men—who are harder to identify and detect than women in headscarves.

Terrorism stemming from the nearly two-decade-long conflict in the North Caucasus has been one of the main concerns about Sochi, a Black Sea coast city which is only 300 miles (480km) from the scene of the deadliest conflict in Europe. A recent report by ICG says at least 700 people died in the conflict in 2012, with as many Russian soldiers dead as America has lost in Afghanistan. Dagestan, the largest and most ethnically complex of all the North Caucasus republics, has been particularly violent.

Ms Sokiryanskaya says that in preparation for the Sochi Olympics the Russian security services have brutally clamped down on any form of legal activity by Salafists, who follow a fundamentalist form of Islam. Their mosques and schools have been closed down and their spiritual leaders harassed. All this has only led to their further radicalisation. Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, who came to power on the wave of the second war in Chechnya in 1999, has rolled back much of the region’s autonomy and clamped down on Russia’s political freedoms in the name of fighting terrorism, but he has failed to resolve the root of the conflict. Mr Putin made no public statement on the bombings but dispatched Alexander Bortnikov, the head of the security service, to Volgograd. The latest double-attack is the most audacious yet, but may not be the last one before the winter Olympics begin in February.





Now those wouldn't be the SAME people you said weren't responsible for these attacks...would they? :stopitslime: :usure: :ufdup:
 

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Before reading the above post let me just say the economist is a British anglo propaganda magazine with jews behind it. I would trust anything they say but I'll read it anyway...


edit: just read the above post. Sounds good coming from "an official magazine" but I wouldn't trust it. I'd like to hear more. But I don't know europe nor Russia to really give a fuq. My solution as usual is bomb Israel and all problems will be solved.:yeshrug:
 
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i have a jewish turkish or syrian friend and i'll ask him about this to confirm it. he don't come around much cause the syrian invasion really pissed him off and we don't see him anymore.
he was telling me that the syrian war is all ottomon-british impire stuff but that sh1t goes over my head.

Have you noticed Al-Q or of it's affiliates who practices Wahhabi/Salafist has never attacked Israel? Have you noticed the biggest supporter for the FSA against Syria is Turkey.
 

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HL dumb smart nikkas once again exposing themselves with their lack of geo-politics knowledge :banderas:

Yall really think the Saudis who pretty much have no respectable army can take on them Russia goons? Smh KSA relies on the USA for protection and :dead: at Bandar making any type of threat to Putin's face, yall nikkas been watching too much James Bond.

Look how excited the lil teenage girl @Napoleon gets :laff:
My nikka you really think this is gonna blow back on KSA? You know you exposed yourself with your lack of knowledge once again?

Them Chechen/Dagestan/Caucasus goons been fighting a liberation war for centuries. They gave Russia that work during the first Chechen war of the 90s trust me they don't need to take orders from a country which is militarily :flabbynsick: (KSA)

But keep thinking this will be the downfall of House Saud smart dumb nikka:heh:
 

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The Jewish roots of the Saudi Royal Family

October 16, 2011 at 11:08am
The House of Saud refers to the royal family of Saudi Arabia. While the modern nation of Saudi Arabia was established in 1932, the House of Saud has been around for much longer. Prior to Ibn Saud, this family ruled the Nejd and often came into conflict with the Ottoman Empire and the Rashidis. The House of Saud is also linked with Wahhabism through the marriage of the son of Muhammad ibn Saud with the daughter of Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab in 1744

http://www.facebook.com/notes/hidde...ots-of-the-saudi-royal-family/277683585596093


THE SAUDI DYNASTY: FROM WHERE IS IT? AND WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THIS FAMILY?

RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER , who was ordered killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:

1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html


2. Is Islam their actual religion?

3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html
 
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