Damn. Remember that black DJ from the Ellen Degeneres show? He killed himself.

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I have 3 kids. A 5 year old and 2 year old twins.

If I killed myself, my wife would be furious for leaving her with that burden to hold. Yes, she would be sad, confused and shocked initially, but after that, there would be anger. She'd be pissed.


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Tragic story
 

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Depressive, suicidal thoughts are like an invasive species living in your head. You can be playing basketball, writing, working, playing with your kids, whatever and they'll find a way to ruin your mood. Their whole purpose is to take away your joy. Fighting those thoughts is like being in a never-ending boxing match with prime Mike Tyson, but he's not even trying to knock you out, just punish you as much as possible. With every blow your opponent hitting you with is devastating but you can't even touch them.

It don't matter how tough you are, eventually that type of punishment with wear you down.
That's why it's important to roll with the punches, otherwise it's a losing battle. :wow:
 

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Years ago, I had to entertain/distract 3 teens whose father had just committed suicide. Admittedly, I did a shytty job. I didn’t know what to do with them or where to take them, so I just got them in my car and started driving. Long story short, I’ve never seen 3 kids look so lost and confused before.

I remember thinking back then that next to cheating on your wife, suicide is the WORST and most selfish thing a man can do to his family. That thought in that moment has always stuck with me. Those kids will never have the opportunity for a normal life and neither will their kids as a result. It’s like killing your family’s future.

Anyway, prayers for the family. Whatever HE was going through, the way he chose to deal with it wasn’t worth it. Kinda goes along with my post in the Michelle Obama thread yesterday about black men being told they’re only entertainers and slaves. You could see in his eyes in his last instagram post that he was fighting something. No smile can hide that.

Damn.
When you're depressed nothing fulfills you. It's a continuous search for something that feels unattainable. That's why I'm not surprised when I hear about stories about people who end it that have what appears to be a nice and purposeful life. Your kids adore you, just want you around them, but it doesn't matter if you feel worthless. shyts crazy.

I've never been suicidal, but I think we all deal with some level of depression. It's all about figuring out what keeps us level and grounded.
 

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Damn RIP to the bruh. Just another reminder to check on your peoples. No matter how strong we all think we are, a person's mental can definitely be challenged in this crazy-ass world we're living in. Stay strong.

See my problem with this "check on your strong friends" discourse is that the vast majority of people aren't trained psychologists and a good majority of people who are depressed to the point of seriously contemplating suicide are excellent at hiding it. There's really no amount of "checking on" someone a person can do when and if that individual presents a joyful, serene or otherwise cheerful persona. I mean what are we supposed to do? Keep asking our seemingly happy friends if deep down they're not secretly depressed and badgering them until they "confess" to being deeply depressed?

This is similar to that former Miss USA lawyer tiktok star that jumped off her building earlier this year. Beautiful, educated, wealthy, admired by many with a skyrocketing career in law and media and always had an uplifting word for *other people* who may have been struggling. But she ended her life due to personal battles only God will ever know. Sometimes people keep their demons and struggles hidden because they DON'T want help. Matter of fact, sometimes people who have made the decision to commit suicide will come off as the happiest, most content people you've ever met because in their minds they know their mental health issues are about to be over for good.
 

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That being said, you will NEVER be able to convince me that suicide - especially when young children or close loved ones will be left behind - isn't an inherently selfish act. You are intentionally inflicting life-long trauma and pain on the people who loved you the most and leaving them left with nothing but grief and feelings of guilt over what clues they missed or how they could've intervened.
 

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See my problem with this "check on your strong friends" discourse is that the vast majority of people aren't trained psychologists and a good majority of people who are depressed to the point of seriously contemplating suicide are excellent at hiding it. There's really no amount of "checking on" someone a person can do when and if that individual presents a joyful, serene or otherwise cheerful persona. I mean what are we supposed to do? Keep asking our seemingly happy friends if deep down they're not secretly depressed and badgering them until they "confess" to being deeply depressed?

This is similar to that former Miss USA lawyer tiktok star that jumped off her building earlier this year. Beautiful, educated, wealthy, admired by many with a skyrocketing career in law and media and always had an uplifting word for *other people* who may have been struggling. But she ended her life due to personal battles only God will ever know. Sometimes people keep their demons and struggles hidden because they DON'T want help. Matter of fact, sometimes people who have made the decision to commit suicide will come off as the happiest, most content people you've ever met because in their minds they know their mental health issues are about to be over for good.

I think the point is that those closest to them are the ones get to see a crack in the act, however brief that crack is, be sure to address it instead of letting the "joyful" person put the mask back on hurriedly, even if you come off as the annoying family member/friend. :wow:

Just my .02 cents brehette, I'm sway in these types of situations, do not got the answers at all. But if a friend's always saying that they're doing great, maybe one day you ought to ask them "why", and see what they got to say. :wow:
 

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I never had suicidal thoughts, thankfully. But those depressive thoughts were annoying as hell.

You can score like 30 points in a pick-up game, feeling all good about yourself :obama:

Then comes those hating ass thoughts like: :comeon: "Whatever nikka, your music still sucks and you ain't never gonna be shyt in life" :unimpressed:
That and insecurity. You could feel like the ugliest, weirdest person in your head while most of the world thinks quite the opposite.
 
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