Damn...no one cares about lyrics, bars or being the best anymore ... IS there even a top 5 anymore?

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Depends
whos the better lyricist
Jay or Nas

if Jay then ya I understand why u say Royce
If Nas then i dnt understand why u wouldnt say Ross

Since Ross' style of lyricism is closer to Nas'

:mjlol:

I know what you're getting at but bad comparison, you're basically saying he's more technical. Jay and Nas are both masterful for different reasons with Jay being a bit more flashy, but they are still in the same weight class. He's not sitting next to names like Eminem, Crooked, Lupe, Elzhi ect. without looking out of place. And it ain't about the content necessarily because he and Pusha T have similar subject matter.

Exchange him for Royce in your "Jay/Nas" scenario and tell me if you don't see the separation as far as bars/technique go.

Ross is COMPETENT, he's not in this conversation though.
 
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this basic
Iheard most these tracks alrdy and the fact that this the best u can come up with
shows J cole is mediocre
Who says this was his best work? I just posted some joints that are better than 90% of this generations work...you're a known Drake dikkrider and Cole hater..... no one takes you seriously
 

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I see of a lot of people are confusing the hottest rappers at the moment and who a makes better music with whose the better lyricist.

Ross makes better music than royce but ain't no way in hell he's the better lyricist than him.
 

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uhh yes they are :heh:

only person in TDE i can say cole MIGHT above is Q and that's stretch

cole and krit may be on the same level, joey is undeniably above cole, and gibbs has certified heat that blows cole out the water

read the lyrics from their song respectively and tell me otherwise

shyt i'll say even danny brown is a better lyricist than cole,


remember the keyword here is lyricist not rapping ability
Krit is not on the same level lyrically as Cole

He is above cole much of tde(ab soul got krit on this) and Badass

Show me one cole song that matches Krits Mt
Olympus , concious freestyle, airplay verse etc
 

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Krit is not on the same level lyrically as Cole

He is above cole much of tde(ab soul got krit on this) and Badass

Show me one cole song that matches Krits Mt
Olympus , concious freestyle, airplay verse etc
that's what i was trying to say they all above cole, but homeboy that i quoted thinks otherwise
 

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There's a thread about this guy here but I think he has potential & gives hope to lyricism returning to the forefront:

 

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Lyricism should not be debatble

It requires a rapper using
Metaphors/similes
Multis
Wordplay/play on words
Punchlines
Entendres

What is their to argue about :dwillhuh:
 

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Define lyricist...

I could post lyrical songs and verses from Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Fabolous, J. Cole, Wale, Big Sean, Logic, A$AP Rocky, Big K.R.I.T., Freddie Gibbs, Joey BADA$$, Earl Sweatshirt, Rick Ross, Lloyd Banks, Joe Budden, G Herbo, Dave East, etc.

I don't understand you nikkas. Cole is a good lyricist and storyteller go listen to a song like 2Face. Cole is a superior songwriter than these lyrical miracle rappers y'all hype up.

Seriously how are these nikkas not lyricists do y'all listen to music or skim through it.
 
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Lyricism should not be debatble

It requires a rapper using
Metaphors/similes
Multis
Wordplay/play on words
Punchlines
Entendres

What is their to argue about :dwillhuh:

I've always called using those being lyrical except multisyllables..
But I call good lyricism things like multis, internal rhymes, rhyme schemes etc..
 

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Krit is not on the same level lyrically as Cole

He is above cole much of tde(ab soul got krit on this) and Badass

Show me one cole song that matches Krits Mt
Olympus , concious freestyle, airplay verse etc


Krit is a better producer then Cole, but better l lyricist? You buggin....and Jay Rock will eat his food, it aint even fair to mention Q, Kendrick, or Ab.........and I fukks with Krit's music heavy, but cmon son.
 

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Lyricism should not be debatble

It requires a rapper using
Metaphors/similes
Multis
Wordplay/play on words
Punchlines
Entendres

What is their to argue about :dwillhuh:

Having to admit another artist is better affects their stannery fukkery that takes place in their minds.
 
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