Dame Dash ordered to sell Roc-A-Fella records shares

[KnickstapeCity]

Shout out to Biggs for playing his position and knowing his place. fukk Dame thieving ass.

I’m willing to bet anything that Dame got a bigger dikk than your fakkit ass, c00n.

 

[Cladyclad]

Everything you just said, is facts.

Big Head Gary always said that the first time he tried to introduce Dame to Jay, they were standing outside waiting for Jay and when he showed and was walking up, Dame said, 'This dude look corny" and dressed "weird". LOL!!

But like you said, Jay gave a lot of people jobs that didn't even like him before the Roc breakup. That's how he sons people. He gives you a job. He did the same with Fat Joe. Same happened with Biggs. He wasn't fond of Jay because dude wasn't dealing with him like that. But he gave him a job later, and then Biggs started acting funny with the people that actually held him down when Jay wouldn't even speak to him. Dame is definitely all about the brotherhood and loyalty, but in this business, you'd be lucky to get that.

or Maybe Biggs had a issue with Jay z for no reason and realized it was dumb. Nobody that had issues with jay gave a valid reason imo on why they fell out

I peep these nikkas from deep
Got a front row seat even if you don’t speak
Silent partner, I hear you loud and clear
Left a fingerprint, you ain’t gotta be there
I’m just waiting til’ you dig a hole big enough
to put yo whole body in

^
Biggs had to do or say something to jay

 

[Awesome Wells]

or Maybe Biggs had a issue with Jay z for no reason and realized it was dumb. Nobody that had issues with jay gave a valid reason imo on why they fell out

I peep these nikkas from deep
Got a front row seat even if you don’t speak
Silent partner, I hear you loud and clear
Left a fingerprint, you ain’t gotta be there
I’m just waiting til’ you dig a hole big enough
to put yo whole body in

^
Biggs had to do or say something to jay

When you get locked up and don’t hear from people and say you don’t know what that's about...that's a clear issue with you.

He didn't exactly leave that up to guessing. He said he wasn't hearing from Jay, but that he was speaking to Dame all the time and Dame was looking out for him. He was mad vocal about that. But if someone can throw a check at you, you see how loyalties switch in the business.

Dame said it before, "I helped people pay their bills and gave them money. And now those same people won't even pick up my calls". Foul sh*t.

 

[Cladyclad]

When you get locked up and don’t hear from people and say you don’t know what that's about...that's a clear issue with you.

He didn't exactly leave that up to guessing. He said he wasn't hearing from Jay, but that he was speaking to Dame all the time and Dame was looking out for him. He was mad vocal about that. But if someone can throw a check at you, you see how loyalties switch in the business.

Dame said it before, "I helped people pay their bills and gave them money. And now those same people won't even pick up my calls". Foul sh*t.

the issue was jay left and Biggs and dame was pissed

biggs got over it

dame didn’t lol

 

[jj23]

It never happened.

Biggs was broke when he got locked up. Which is why he was back in the streets trying front bread for weight. He needed money. The only person that kept money on his books while he was locked up, was Dame. He didn't even have enough money in the bank to cover his family's monthly bills. When he got locked, Dame was the only one making sure his mortgage and rents were paid and his family had money to take care of their daily sh*t.

Jay wouldn't even go near Biggs during that period. But after he got out, Jay offered him a job, and then suddenly he wouldn't speak to Dame anymore.

You have the interview for that?

Looked around but couldn't find it. I know Dame said he was mad at Kanye, but he had specifically said with Biggs being locked up, he had no issue with Jay.

 

[DontEemTry]

He has a whole crew of dudes who've been with him since pre-Roc. Actual friends. But these people aren't in the business. All his dudes from the neighborhood are still there, but a lot of the people he put on, ran off with Jay for a check. With the exception of a few. Kanye and Freeway are still always with him.

Ok but Kanye is a billionaire. Please explain why he hasn't got Dame out of debt when that amount we talkin about is peanuts to him

 

[Bigsuk]

Suge's downfall was on a different level. Look at everything he could've eventually had a piece of including Eminem, 50 Cent, Vitamin Water, Beats by Dre, etc. He easily could be the richest personality in Hip Hop right now if he had tact. Lol and what makes it even wilder is that Suge grew up in a stable two-parent household so he can't even blame childhood trauma/dysfunction.

I agree…. I’ve always said suge has had the worst downfall in hiphop history.. then followed by dame dash …..as far as suge goes … he was just stuck on that piru shyt … him , pac and the pirus that were around deathrow tanked the company … I do feel tho I wouldn’t call it a conspiracy as such but definitely there was Behind the scenes big wigs working together to black ball suge from the industry after his 5 year prison sentence the first time they didn’t want to see him get that big again ….but also suge never changed his ways …. You would think after seeing pac get shot and killed basically tanking your company, going to prison all because of his gang-affiliation you would think that would wake him up to do better but some people don’t change n are stuck on stupid ….

 

[Bigsuk]

When you get locked up and don’t hear from people and say you don’t know what that's about...that's a clear issue with you.

He didn't exactly leave that up to guessing. He said he wasn't hearing from Jay, but that he was speaking to Dame all the time and Dame was looking out for him. He was mad vocal about that. But if someone can throw a check at you, you see how loyalties switch in the business.

Dame said it before, "I helped people pay their bills and gave them money. And now those same people won't even pick up my calls". Foul sh*t.

If that’s true then they were not his real friends then … sorry my guy I know you defending dame dashes honor or principals or something but that nikka dame just needs to get over it and stop been bitter …. He’s been bitter for the last 20 years or so … he’s gona die a bitter old man simple as that ……

 

[Bigsuk]

I always looked at it like his trauma was that he was a spoiled ass brat and couldn’t nobody tell him shyt. He was a mama’s boy and she probably gave him EVERYTHING, when pops scolded him she’d probably come behind him and coddle him.


Fast forward to Deathrow and I refuse to believe that there weren’t people telling him the right thing but then he had “the homies” being his “yes men” and saying “fukk what they talking bout” and instead of listening to the person he should have at the time he went with the people telling him what he wanted to hear.

That’s what I think about both pac and suge which led to pacs demise to the spirit world and suges demise both of them had to many yes men around and both of them were fuelling each other with nobody to put out the flame …. Which is why unfortunately both of them are where there at today ….

 

[Awesome Wells]

Ok but Kanye is a billionaire. Please explain why he hasn't got Dame out of debt when that amount we talkin about is peanuts to him

Kanye was worth a billion dollars. As he explained before, he doesn't have a billion dollars, lol.

But away from that, I don’t think Dame is the kinda person that's gonna go to someone and ask them to help him financially. Especially not someone he basically put on. It's not like he's broke like these rappers. He just doesn't have the kinda bread he used to, or probably should have based on his impact. But he owns property, companies, and all that. I think if Dame really needed money, he could easily get it from Ye. Because Ye helps a lot of people. But I don’t think for a minute Dame would ever ask.

 

[jj23]

Kanye was worth a billion dollars. As he explained before, he doesn't have a billion dollars, lol.

But away from that, I don’t think Dame is the kinda person that's gonna go to someone and ask them to help him financially. Especially not someone he basically put on. It's not like he's broke like these rappers. He just doesn't have the kinda bread he used to, or probably should have based on his impact. But he owns property, companies, and all that. I think if Dame really needed money, he could easily get it from Ye. Because Ye helps a lot of people. But I don’t think for a minute Dame would ever ask.

And this is where we get back to the meat of the matter. If Dame has so many other sources to draw on, why would he give away his Rocafella shares for peanuts?

Why would he take 400k from the rocafella account?

The reality is that Dame sounds like he is living above his means. Behind the scenes it could be untrue, but that's the conclusion I come to. 50 cent declared bankruptcy, protected his assets and continues to flourish. Dame could easily have done the same if he had notable assets to protect.

 

[Awesome Wells]

And this is where we get back to the meat of the matter. If Dame has so many other sources to draw on, why would he give away his Rocafella shares for peanuts?

Why would he take 400k from the rocafella account?

The reality is that Dame sounds like he is living above his means. Behind the scenes it could be untrue, but that's the conclusion I come to. 50 cent declared bankruptcy, protected his assets and continues to flourish. Dame could easily have done the same if he had notable assets to protect.

Assets are one thing, cash is another.

He said he's been low on cash for the past year. So once you get to that point, you would have to start shedding some assets to get the cash. He's been holding on to the shares forever because he said he doesn't want to sell them for less than they're worth. But he could've given them to Jay when he asked for them way back, but he said the offer was too low.

Truth is, he was always living above his means back in the heyday. Dude had two penthouses on the same block, in different buildings in Tribeca at one point. And like 7-8 other cribs. So back then, he's admitted that he was burning through a lot of money. Even with ventures and projects he tried to start that didn't work out. That's just a part of investing though. He's never had an issue with speaking on those things.

The powers that be, in the music business (like Lyor and Doug), who wanted Jay to ditch Dame, made sure he could never get back in and flourish in the music business. So he's not going to get any more bread from music, that way. Which is why he was doing his indie thing with DD172, which was mad dope at the time. But all of his business and media sh*t he's done since, has been self-funded. That bread is gonna run out at some point, if the projects aren't working out.

With that account, he said he felt like the $400K was his royalties, so I guess that's why he withdrew whatever. I think that was like 2012 or some sh*t. He spoke with Biggs about it, but not Jay, assuming Jay even knew it was in there. What's wild is that that's the same amount he owed in child support that they arrested him for. He said that was money from royalties off RD, I think.

 

[jj23]

Assets are one thing, cash is another.

He said he's been low on cash for the past year. So once you get to that point, you would have to start shedding some assets to get the cash. He's been holding on to the shares forever because he said he doesn't want to sell them for less than they're worth. But he could've given them to Jay when he asked for them way back, but he said the offer was too low.

Truth is, he was always living above his means back in the heyday. Dude had two penthouses on the same block, in different buildings in Tribeca at one point. And like 7-8 other cribs. So back then, he's admitted that he was burning through a lot of money. Even with ventures and projects he tried to start that didn't work out. That's just a part of investing though. He's never had an issue with speaking on those things.

The powers that be, in the music business (like Lyor and Doug), who wanted Jay to ditch Dame, made sure he could never get back in and flourish in the music business. So he's not going to get any more bread from music, that way. Which is why he was doing his indie thing with DD172, which was mad dope at the time. But all of his business and media sh*t he's done since, has been self-funded. That bread is gonna run out at some point, if the projects aren't working out.

With that account, he said he felt like the $400K was his royalties, so I guess that's why he withdrew whatever. I think that was like 2012 or some sh*t. He spoke with Biggs about it, but not Jay, assuming Jay even knew it was in there. What's wild is that that's the same amount he owed in child support that they arrested him for. He said that was money from royalties off RD, I think.

Yes, he said Jay offered him 1.5 million for the shares. The shares are worth 800k now. Might have been closer to 750 when the offer was made.

So twice the value of the shares at the time. Dame said it was a low ball offer. In business if anyone offers you twice an item's value it's seen as fair.

If we are going to give Dame the benefit of the doubt on these matters let's step back for a second, take Jay-z out of this, and focus on Biggs. Based on reports he has always seemed to be a stand up guy. Smart guy. Went to jail, did his time. Think he became a Christian on the inside.

So with that, do we really want to say that Dame paid his mortgage (still looking for that link) and Biggs turned his back on Dame when he started to work with Jay-z?

That simply doesn't sound like it's in Biggs' nature to do that, and to be honest, what does Jay-z stand to lose if Biggs and Dame continued to be friends?

 

[mson]

He really believed he was a business genius because he stood next to Jay Z for years

And the success of Rachel Roy.

 

[Street Knowledge]

And the success of Rachel Roy.

She saw a rich simp who could fund her fashion dreams and finessed him. Now she’s raping him in child support and has orders of protection against him.

This also makes the whole Dame Dash pro black shyt nonsense when he wifed up an Indian bytch and is engaged to a white Puerto Rican