Dame Dash message to Jonathan Majors - “Make your own movies “

[Supa]

No, it's not. And most actors at some point write or direct their own movies. This idea that you can only do one thing and you have to have the machine behind you is archaic and retarded. Its ok to doubt people. If you would've told me Tyler Perry would have his own studio, Ida doubted you. If you told me 50 cent would go on to make a bunch of successful tv shows, Ida laughed. If you told me Michael b Jordan would be directing creed 3 and more....Ida laughed.

Nothing you said is comparable to Majors because none of the three men you mentioned had their career in jeopardy over domestic violence.

Creed 3 had a 75 million dollar budget and distribution from Warner Brothers. MBJ didn't fund the movie.

50's shows are on Starz. He already amassed a fortune off music so getting funding for TV shows was an easier transition. Majors doesn't have millions in the bank.

Tyler built his fortune off church going black women. He had a bankable audience, his own millions, and a distribution deal with Lions Gate.

Even if Majors raises a couple million who's distributing his movies? What networks and streaming services are supporting it? What's Majors' audience right now that he can bank on? You can't just make your own movie with no plan for it to be profitable.

 

[Wildin]

Nothing you said is comparable to Majors because none of the three men you mentioned had their career in jeopardy over domestic violence.

Creed 3 had a 75 million dollar budget and distribution from Warner Brothers. MBJ didn't fund the movie.

50's shows are on Starz. He already amassed a fortune off music so getting funding for TV shows was an easier transition. Majors doesn't have millions in the bank.

Tyler built his fortune off church going black women. He had a bankable audience, his own millions, and a distribution deal with Lions Gate.

Even if Majors raises a couple million who's distributing his movies? What networks and streaming services are supporting it? What's Majors' audience right now that he can bank on? You can't just make your own movie with no plan for it to be profitable.

Name one person in Hollywood that's been out the paint like that? I mean permanently gone. Everybody loves a comeback story. Even if you don't want them to succeed, you want them back just to hate. I can't think of an actor off top who fukked up and never worked again. Maybe the fukked up so bad I completely forgot they existed but every actor who's went through some shyt that I can think of is working again despite the bullshyt. They might've stepped aside and waited til shyt cooled down but they didn't just never work in Hollywood again, or end up at home depot or Wendy's, or die.

 

[Big Boss]

I mean he can act but can he make films?!

Dame mentality of do everything yourself isnt the best idea, it's not practical for most.

Want to go to space? Build your own rocket!

 

[Wildin]

Yea I’m sure there are plenty of actors and writers and producers and sounds people and editors and camera people who will work for free with Johnathan Majors (because THAT will get them in the doors they have been looking for)

Exactly my point. Jonathan majors in 2023 could put together a movie. Without a budget. He could find many people with a script, a concept, a story, plenty of people who have skills that would be like "fukk it, let me get on "

You take that experience and add it to your resume or tell your friends "shyt, I worked on a movie with Jonathan majors."

 

[Stuntone]

Tyler Perry will let him film in his studio, he a small Harlem Sircharge.

 

[Wildin]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

I know people that work in the business right now on movies that have had national and international releases, shows that are shown on networks right now, active shows, that have written and made their own movies. I know more than that because I've donated my own money when they were crowdsourcing, and when they were in film school to help cover budget. And plenty of them didn't amass a million dollars to make a film, yet they've made full length films and short films that have been in festivals and see by even bigger people. Hell my boy ended up shooting and working with Alexander Payne when he was filming the movie Nebraska.

There's no reason JM can't do this now, when my boy was (and still is) pretty much an unknown in Hollywood and everyone knows JM.

 

[Consigliere]

^username checks out

 

[Mastamimd]

I got fired from Target so imma make my own department store

fukkin jackass

 

[beenz]

With what money? dude got cancelled when he was starting to make some cash.

LOL at people trying to compare him to the likes of mel gibson. mel gibson had 9 figures in the bank when he was originally cancelled.

plus it's hard to cancel a guy who has enough money to finance his own movies and had been doing so for like 2 decades prior.

 

[Vandelay]

In 2023? You can go straight to the consumer.

That's like saying "you can't sell tickets if you dont go through ticketmaster!" "You can't have a show if it ain't on fox/abc/nbc/cbs."

Youre acting like he's going to be denied permits to film on location or that businesses that rent or sell equipment for movies, audio and tech are going to be like " you're Jonathan majors! I..I..I can't work with you! You're cancelled! If I work with you then I'll be cancelled too!"

DTC how?

I'm not talking about making the movie, I'm talking about selling/streaming the movie.

No one is buying physical media anymore; Youtube?

 

[GhostfacexDOOM]

Has it actually been confirmed that he's dropped from Marvel entirely? Also another thing to note about actors is going from huge productions like HBO and MCU to an indie film that sucks/was crowd funded can straight up kill your career too. Also if he cancelled for real and makes his own film who's gonna support it? Especially if it sucks. Didn't Nate Parker's film Birth of a Nation flop because they were cancelling him?

 

[Hov]

DTC how?

I'm not talking about making the movie, I'm talking about selling/streaming the movie.

No one is buying physical media anymore; Youtube?

Yea I mean he’s talking like the money is in making the movie or having it shown for free at a film festival lol.

Bro you don’t get paid until it get distributed.

Reminds me of the dude that spend his tax return to buy a key and think he’s the man now. All the well your Walter White with no Jesse looking ass don’t got no one to sell it too

 

[Lonj]

You still need distribution. Who's distributing Jonathan Majors right now? No majors, no pun, are picking up his projects. And no one buys dvds or blu-ray anymore.

In theory, Dame is not wrong. But everything is circumstantial. And Dame is the epitome of placing a square peg in a round hole. It's exactly why he's not relevant any longer despite being one of the more successful music executives of the last 30 years.

JM needs to lay low and wait. There's nothing he can do right now.

There are like a 1000 streaming services out there and you can shop your movie to film festivals and theaters that specialize in Independent projects and you even got independent distributors like A24 these days. It's never been easier for independent creators to get their stuff seen. Is he gonna make Marvel money? Hell no, but if he make a project for 2.5 million and parlay that into 15 million that's a win. Now Majors probably may not want to do this but it's definitely viable.

Another point too is he doesn't have to continue to do this. Make some smaller possibly critically acclaimed independent projects till the shyt blow over.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Advice from the same man who couldn't make another Hov

 

[Vandelay]

There are like a 1000 streaming services out there and you can shop your movie to film festivals and theaters that specialize in Independent projects. It's never been easier for smaller creators to get their stuff seen. Now Majors probably doesn't want to do this but it's definitely viable.

I don't disagree agree with the bolded. Not saying it's right, but it's borderline procedural for distributors/companies to distance themselves from celebrities who fall into me too/domestic trouble.

It wouldn't be wise to sink a couple hundred thou or a few million if you don't have guaranteed distribution. And forget traditional marketing with him being the face of a production right now.

Unfortunately, he's in an ambiguous spot right now and his case is too recent. Cuba, Mel, Louis CK, Isaiah Washington and dozens of other celebs had to disappear for half a decade before they reappeared. Will Smith is Will Smith, and fortunately for him, a lot of people don't like Chris Rock. JM isn't as established, yeah has a few cool roles, but he hasn't quite made it yet. He's got the woman-beater stigma on him. Don't get no worse other than rape.

It would be bad money for him to self-invest while his case is so new.

Ezra had a quarter billion thrown behind him and Warner Bros probably had to threaten his family's livelihood to get him to stop wildin out for this movie to get pushed. Low-key, JM is under similar circumstances and Disney probably has over a billion invested in stuff he's connected to, so they are waiting it out.