Current state of black wrestlers in WWE

[Chris Cool]

This. If Titus was white, he would have already been a three time WWE champion. He encompasses everything Vince wants in top guy except the "right" complexion.

i agreed with you initially, but a white Titus would be cesaro.

 

[Zebruh]

Nah I'm not gonna subscribe to calling these guys c00ns. I save it for people that actually demonstrate that behavior. I think most black people in the WWE understand and know they'll probably fall into certain (agreeably WACK) gimmicks seeing as they have to appeal to a PG audience, but they also know and understand what it means for younger people watching. That's why when New Day, Sasha Banks and Rich Swann are all champs they take that #BlackExcellence pic and then defend themselves by saying "Look we never saw any shyt like this growing up and watching. So we want black boys and girls today to see it."

Not gonna label them c00ns for dancing and smiling at work for a scripted live entertainment show aimed at kids.

 

[Breh Obama]

I know. That's why I wrote (pretty clearly) "Wrestling is not meant to be a black form of entertainment...it's racist at worst and dismissive of black people at best"

I also wrote "As a black wrestling fan I have to acknowledge it (the racism) when I watch"


What is the difference between Samuel L Jackson playing a house slave in Django Unchained and New Day dancing around? Is it because they are in these gimmicks for a longer amount of time than one movie? Is it because Samuel L gets to take other roles and they don't?

In either situation, it's a black man portraying a character. Big E is a dancing goofy but tough wrestling character...he's an athletic actor. It's a character.

Like I mentioned...the genre is NOT particularly favorable toward black people. If they choose to get into the genre, that's their choice. If we continue to support the genre (by watching, commenting, etc.) that's our choice. Is there something inherently "c00nish" about it... maybe...I don't know. But it's no MORE or LESS c00nish than any other actor portraying a c00n.

All actors have the choice to say no to a role. If an actor chooses to play a role that's a "c00n" is that "c00ning"? Personally, I can't call it.

Nah I feel you and was agreeing with you by expounding on that point. Everything is dictated and ran by white people. There still isn't any people of color in this high up positions that really control the image and portrayals that are shown in tv and entertainment

 

[RammerJammer]

I wouldn't have as much of a problem overall if they created well rounded characters for their Black wrestlers. Even Sasha's a stereotype...I do dig the look and a few of the mannerisms, but her throwing out the word "ratchet" and acting hood rat lite doesn't help WWE's cause. Can't have a Black wrestler that's an apex predator or a blue collar everyman?

Sasha ain't been doing that since the NXT days

And I mean in New Day's case, remember they started out as being sort of a militant group, dropped it after two weeks, came back as Preachers, and I believe the New Day themselves came up with the trolling gimmick cause the Preacher gimmick wasn't gonna work. They're not potrayed as dumb or mental either as some black wrestlers have been potrayed in the past, which I have more of a problem with than the dancing gimmicks

Seriously I look back at Cryme Tyme and my face just goes

But New Day embraces that meme culture which plays a huge role in today's pop culture.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Nah I'm not gonna subscribe to calling these guys c00ns. I save it for people that actually demonstrate that behavior. I think most black people in the WWE understand and know they'll probably fall into certain (agreeably WACK) gimmicks seeing as they have to appeal to a PG audience, but they also know and understand what it means for younger people watching. That's why when New Day, Sasha Banks and Rich Swann are all champs they take that #BlackExcellence pic and then defend themselves by saying "Look we never saw any shyt like this growing up and watching. So we want black boys and girls today to see it."

Not gonna label them c00ns for dancing and smiling at work for a scripted live entertainment show aimed at kids.

Cats on the Coli REALLY don't know what the word c--- means.

 

[Amor fati]

What about Velveteen Dream

I Kinda dig his gimmick, he may do a better job than Orlando Jordan.

 

[Amor fati]

Cedric Alexander is ok, he's not c00ning. Cedric comes off as a stale hero type babyface.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

bush this thread

 

[TinFoilSnapBack]

nikkas shyt on The New Day for being c00ns, when they are the biggest anti-c00ns if you think about it. They were given a bullshyt preacher gimmick, and finessed that into a gimmick where they pretty much do whatever they want. They always sneak black cultural memes into their promos, and they have gotten themselves over organically by doing their own thing outside of cokeboy's script.

 

[TheBigBopper]

i agreed with you initially, but a white Titus would be cesaro.

Cmon man. Titus has way more charisma than Cesaro

 

[DANJ!]

Cats on the Coli REALLY don't know what the word c--- means.

This thread pretty much proves that... so if you come out mad at the world you're a c00n playing an 'angry black man' role... but if you come out happy, you're a c00n cause you smiling. Which Way Did He Gooo

I guess nikkas just supposed to come out like

 

[Crimson_Dynamo]

The answer is way more complex than a yes or no.

 

[Breh Obama]

This thread pretty much proves that... so if you come out mad at the world you're a c00n playing an 'angry black man' role... but if you come out happy, you're a c00n cause you smiling. Which Way Did He Gooo

I guess nikkas just supposed to come out like

So fitting stereotypes and playing into them isn't c00ning? Especially when they do it just to be accepted? Smh some of y'all are c00ns yourself and don't even realize it.

Where is the intellectual black wrestler.
Where is the scary black wrestler
Where is the charisma black wrestler
Where is the inspiring black wrestler
Where is the leader type black wrestler
Where is the anti establishment black wrestler
Where is the pure talent technical black wrestler
?????

Instead the current ones feed into the typical black stereotypes to please racist Vince McMahon and the racist white people all across America just to be "accepted"

 

[astrologybrother]

Shucking and jiving has always been c00nery

They wouldn't get this push if they weren't dancing for the white man and they weren't getting a push when they didn't do that

That's level 1 soft, sterotype stuff.

Has the New Day or any other black wrestlers done Level 10 c00ning (Charles Barkley, Sage Steele, Stacey Dash, etc..)

Deny their heritage?
Talk bad about their race for others approval?
Put other ethnicities over their own?

In or outside the ring?

 

[SalamiAttack]

What about Velveteen Dream