Cuba offers Black Americans/Latinos free 6 year Med School plus room and board

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before you tell anyone to stop. read your own articles man. googling then pasting the first article doesnt make you a specialist. in that very article it states cuban doctors are highly regarded and that they are in fact getting visas.

read your own shyt :mindblown:

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Ana Carbonell, chief of staff for Representative Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Republican of Florida, said more than 2,000 Cubans had already settled in the United States under the parole program.

“It brings to our community highly qualified professionals at a time of great need,” Ms. Carbonell said. “They work alongside U.S.-trained doctors, and they enhance any practice or wherever they work.”

Many have been able to obtain licenses and practice medicine. Others have chosen to settle for careers in the medical field but not as physicians, and some work in fields that have nothing to do with medicine.

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One out of every four doctors in the United States was trained overseas, said an American Medical Association official who deals with international doctors, but who is not authorized to speak to reporters and declined to give her name.

“We feel that international medical graduates are an integral part of our work force, and we don’t see that changing any time soon,” she said. “We rely very heavily on them because they take positions that are in underserved areas and go into primary care. Without them our country would be in dire straits, especially minority populations and the poor.”
 

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"highly trained nurses and calling them doctors"

I don't venture into HL so I forgot how dumb buddy is :dead:

There is a reason Cuba's medical program was a major point in restoring diplomatic relations

then again, this idiot thinks capitalism is to the benefit of oppressed people so cook :heh:

That Is pretty much a complete lie, Cuba has some drugs that they have invented but they have nothing to do with establishing restoring diplomatic relations, Cuban drugs are not allowed because of the embargo, which is a separate issue from restoring diplomatic relations

Cuban doctors cannot pass the american board exams, that's just a fact
 

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For folks that would likely be spending those 6 years working a low wage dead end job? :comeon:

I doubt some of the skills that they would learn are as useless as you claim they are...but i could be wrong...i ain't no expert on this subject and unlike your average coli poster i'm not gonna sit here and pretend to be a know-it-all on every goddamn thing when i don't know what the fukk i'm talking about.
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Going to Cuba for medicine is a dead end in and of itself so it's the same difference, you would be making the same amount of money
 

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You're right

The whole entire article is about Cuban doctors not being able to be doctors in the U.S.

Their loss is Miami’s gain. Just about any hospital in Miami can boast of having highly trained Cuban doctors working as nurses or medical assistants or even lab technicians.

Cuban doctors have to settle for other positions

“I’ve had to get used to think as a nurse, but it’s difficult,” he said. “Deep down, I’m still a doctor.”
 

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a cuban doesnt need a visa dummy, a cuban gets automatic asylum when they come to the us, the article is explaining that cuban doctors cannot practice in the us because they cant pass the test,

you have some serious reading comprehension problems

if cubans are highly regarded in other parts of the world, good for them

but cuban doctors are not highly regarded in the us because cuban doctors cant pass the basic tests, so its stupid for an american to go to cuba when in the end they wont be able to practice in the us and its stupid for an american to go overseas and work for the same money they would make working at a fast food restaurant just to make some corny political statement or for some corny third world solidarity

the articles i posted support everything i said and they contradict also your assertion that the us has an "endless supply of doctors"
Im the one with reading comprehension problems? wtf did I just write here. read this shyt again, sit down and stfu.

on top of that, there are cuban doctors who have passed, can pass, and do practice here. they are essential to lil havana in south florida.

free medical school and you are complaining? there's so many africans here in china studying medicine, because its cheaper.

it is true tho, its pretty hard to pass the U.S exam, my lil brother is an anesthesiologist, he went to hell and back at UCLA, even my british doctor said the U.S is hands down the hardest he went through, UK and Canada close second (was surprised to hear about canada since a lot of their students come to america, but i think the pay is better thats why)

But here's the thing......why not become a doctor in cuba then go to black countries like congo to help them out instead? yall talk about "if there's employment ill go back to africa" well they need LOADS of doctors, you have a skill in high demand, no excuse to be afraid to pick an african country and go.

when I went to venezuela I saw a lot of black doctors in the free clinics Chavez put up near the favelas. My cab driver said they were making good cheese too, a lot of them didnt even go back to cuba, they just stayed and got married. I figure they go from cuba to venezuela to help other black latinos. we have an endless supply of doctors in the U.S. might as well help out your own else where.
 

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You're right
he is the epitome of a smart dumb nikka.

he had the audacity to call someone stupid then claim cubans dont need visas.

Nonimmigrant Visas | Havana, Cuba - Embassy of the United States

shyt mind blowing, he doesnt even know the requirements to seek asylum and how that shyt got stamped out during the bush admin. unless you're from an anglo country, taiwan, korea or japan, you need a visa, and the countries I just listed....need a visa after 6 months. this is common knowledge for ANYONE thats jumped on a plane.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
but cuban doctors are not highly regarded in the us because cuban doctors cant pass the basic tests, so its stupid for an american to go to cuba when in the end they wont be able to practice in the us and its stupid for an american to go overseas and work for the same money they would make working at a fast food restaurant just to make some corny political statement or for some corny third world solidarity

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They can practice in California.


Also, an American Doctor that speaks Spanish and English isn't going to be paid "fast food" money in other parts of the world.
 

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The whole entire article is about Cuban doctors not being able to be doctors in the U.S.



Cuban doctors have to settle for other positions
nice try. they are working these jobs UNTIL they pass the exam. you dont just come over here and get a licences, you have to take the test again, in english, and there is a waiting period and internship (certain amount of hours) before you can get your profession. in the mean time they are working as nurses, which is great.

“It brings to our community highly qualified professionals at a time of great need,” Ms. Carbonell said. “They work alongside U.S.-trained doctors, and they enhance any practice or wherever they work.”

Many have been able to obtain licenses and practice medicine.

nikka are you acting like we dont have foreign doctors in america? :what:

do you know how many persian, indian, canadian, israeli even mexican doctors we have in america. :wtf:

if you live in any of the majority cities in america you can find a doctor that speaks your native tongue effortlessly. and the majority of times they're not american born. are you high? :wtf:
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
nice try. they are working these jobs UNTIL they pass the exam. you dont just come over here and get a licences, you have to take the test again, in english, and there is a waiting period and internship (certain amount of hours) before you can get your profession. in the mean time they are working as nurses, which is great.



nikka are you acting like we dont have foreign doctors in america? :what:

do you know how many persian, indian, canadian, israeli doctors we have in america. :wtf:


Bruh, he's clueless, Americans Doctors educated in Cuba can practice in California, this exact school and program is recognized by the California board of medicine.
One Northern California doctor was trained in an unlikely location -- Cuba.

"I had heard about Cuba, but I didn’t have any strong political opinions about it," says Dr. Brea Bondi-Boyd, a primary care physician with Concord Health Center in Concord, a safefty-net clinic affiliated with Contra Costa Health Services.
Over a couple of summers during medical school, Bondi-Boyd did public health work in the Sacramento area, where she grew up. When she finished school in Cuba, she did a three-year residency through the Contra Costa County health system, where she now works.

She says the hospital patients she has seen in the region are different from ones she’d see in Cuba.


Applying to Study Medicine Abroad? Some Look to Cuba


Other notes in the full report state that this is the Board’s first experience with a medical school that another country’s government has established specifically to train non-citizens to practice abroad where the language of instruction is the country’s native language. ELAM is a 6-year program that is comprised of 10 semesters. The total number of hours of courses, 9,094 hours, complies with the 4,000 hour minimum requirement in Section 2089.





Dudes on here always talking out their ass and trying to find negatives and throw salt, shyt is disgusting. A free education and the chance to become a doctor, and dudes still trying to shyt on it :dead:
 

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i got mainly b's :lupe:
Writing those lab reports are what killed me :noah:


you should be ok

in and of themselves there is nothing special about pre med science and math classes, 90 percent of what you learn in them you will forget and/or never use

chemistry and biology teach you how to store, regurgitate and analyze facts, math and physics teaches you how to manipulate abstract information in your head, those skills is what makes you into a scientist which then makes you ready for med school

a b means you are doing ok, not great but good enough
 
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nice try. they are working these jobs UNTIL they pass the exam. you dont just come over here and get a licences, you have to take the test again, in english, and there is a waiting period and internship (certain amount of hours) before you can get your profession. in the mean time they are working as nurses, which is great.



nikka are you acting like we dont have foreign doctors in america? :what:

do you know how many persian, indian, canadian, israeli even mexican doctors we have in america. :wtf:

if you live in any of the majority cities in america you can find a doctor that speaks your native tongue effortlessly. and the majority of times they're not american born. are you high? :wtf:

no i didnt say that they are no foreign doctors

what i said is that cuban doctors have problems passing the test and they are working lesser jobs because they cant pass the test,
Languishing medical talents trapped by necessity
Languishing medical talents trapped by necessity

there is no waiting period, you have to take the USMLE and then wait for a residency, cuban doctors are getting stuck at passing the USMLE, the thing these are not students these are actual doctors
 

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nice try. they are working these jobs UNTIL they pass the exam. you dont just come over here and get a licences, you have to take the test again, in english, and there is a waiting period and internship (certain amount of hours) before you can get your profession. in the mean time they are working as nurses, which is great.



nikka are you acting like we dont have foreign doctors in america? :what:

do you know how many persian, indian, canadian, israeli even mexican doctors we have in america. :wtf:

if you live in any of the majority cities in america you can find a doctor that speaks your native tongue effortlessly. and the majority of times they're not american born. are you high? :wtf:

no i didnt say that they are no foreign doctors

what i said is that cuban doctors have problems passing the test and they are working lesser jobs because they cant pass the test
Languishing medical talents trapped by necessity
Languishing medical talents trapped by necessity

there is no waiting period, you have to take the USMLE and then wait for a residency, cuban doctors are getting stuck at passing the USMLE, the thing is these are not students these are actual doctors
 

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Black Cubans: Restoring US Ties Is Cool, but America, Keep Your Hang-Ups About Race at Bay
Will the current racial tensions in America seep into Cuba and awaken a sleeping giant? Black Cubans say probably not.


BY: DIANA OZEMEBHOYA EROMOSELE
Posted: Jan. 21 2015 3:00 AM


An Afro-Cuban sugarcane cutter in Pinar del Río, Cuba
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED


It doesn’t matter how much Cuba’s culture changes now that the U.S. has restored diplomatic relations; if you’re waiting for black Cubans to set off some sort of racial revolution, don’t hold your breath.

That’s according to some black Cubans who shared their thoughts on race with The Root in the edited Q&A below.

Omar Diaz is a 28-year-old black Cuban actor living in Miami who immigrated to the U.S. when he was 4 years old. He said that while he’s rooting for a democratic Cuba, he hopes that black Cubans will continue to benefit from the Castro revolution’s decree that Cubans prioritize nationalism overrace.

Ruben* is a 52-year-old black photographer and book publisher. He is the only interviewee still living in Cuba. Even though he spoke passionately about racial inequality in Cuba, he explained why he and most black Cubans don’t quite see themselves as Afro-Cuban or black Cuban—just Cuban.


Afro-Cuban boys playing in Trinidad, Cuba
JPLAVOIE/WIKIMEDIA COMMONS

First cousins Elia E. Espuet and Sira Perez, on the other hand, both strongly identify as Afro-Cubans. Both women, ages 63 and 62 respectively, immigrated to the U.S. when they were teenagers in the late 1960s, Fidel Castro having assumed power in 1959. They could easily pass as African Americans, though they vividly remember how they were advised not to, in order to escape the brutality facing black Americans fighting for civil rights. That distinction—Cuba’s kind of racism versus America’s kind of racism—stuck with them. They maintain that black Cubans have it better in some ways on that front.

Georgina Rodriguez, 53—their mulatto, as she describes herself, cousin (who was categorized as “white” in Cuba when she was born)—doesn’t want Americans spewing their “racial framework” and “neoconservatism” all over Cuba. She argues that the former doesn’t account for all of Cuba’s ethnicities, and the latter will only widen the inequality gap.


An interracial couple in Havana City with pictures of Ché Guevara and Camilo Cienfuegos on the wall and a bust of Cuban national hero José Martí on the shelf
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The Root: As American influences trickle into Cuba in the years to come, is there a concern that the racial progress that Castro’s communism ushered in will become undone?

Elia Espuet: Yes—I’m inclined to believe that as relations with Cuba and the United States go forward, the rich white Cubans will marginalize the black Cubans on the island. Unfortunately, I don’t see things becoming better for black Cubans.


But there is a degree of wariness with regards to the potential socioeconomic inequalities that America’s kind of neoconservative capitalism brings with it.

Georgina Rodriguez: Agreed. I mean, everyone in Cuba—black, white and mulatto—will benefit from better infrastructure and greater access to goods, food and medicine. The Castro regime will no longer have an excuse for its totalitarian control over people’s thoughts or actions, and the Cuban people will finally be thrust into the modern world with Internet and everything. But there is a degree of wariness with regards to the potential socioeconomic inequalities that America’s kind of neoconservative capitalism brings with it.

TR: But doesn’t socioeconomic inequality already exist in Cuba? White Cubans are disproportionately represented in politics; they have the best-paying jobs—they live in the best neighborhoods. Communism certainly didn’t cause that inequality, but it doesn’t exactly allow for social and civic expressions like homosexuality or freedom of speech, either.

GR: African Americans have more equal rights “on paper” than Afro-Cubans, but that hasn’t eradicated racism in American society or its institutions like the police. Look at Ferguson and Trayvon Martin, for instance.

In Cuba, the races live side by side much more than they do in the U.S. There is far less de facto segregation in Cuba. Families are so much more mixed, and so racial hatred in Cuba doesn’t run as deep as in America, because everyone has a black grandma cooking in the kitchen unseen. So I would definitely say that there is more racial equality in Cuba than in the USA in many ways.


A Cuban prepares popcorn for St. Lazarus pilgrims in Havana, December 2009. Thousands of believers gather annually to fulfill vows made to St. Lazarus (also referred to as Babalu Aye) for worshippers of the Afro-Cuban religion Santería.
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TR: There’s poverty in Cuba. Black Cubans—who were always marginalized—have felt that the hardest. Will their financial well-being improve if the embargo is lifted and American dollars start to trickle into Cuba with more ease and less restrictions?

Omar Diaz: Definitely—I’m looking forward to the economic benefits. Most black Cubans aren’t receiving financial help from relatives abroad—like white Cubans do—because, remember, blacks didn’t leave Cuba at the time of the revolution. Castro’s policies appealed mostly to the poor, so they stayed. Now that the channels are opening up, someone like me, a black Cuban, can go back to my island, open up a business there, or open up a business here in the U.S. and help my black Cuban relatives.

TR: What do Cuba and the U.S. have in common when it comes to race relations? What are some of the differences?

GR: In terms of similarities, a white or light-skinned Cuban would definitely prefer their children not to marry a negro because there is the idea that their descendants are going to take a step back socially—atrasarse.

But people are very understanding of attraction, lust and love. So interracial couples happen a lot in Cuba, and it’s definitely not a taboo; people don’t stare at you and your kids don’t get stigmatized.

The differences: The day-to-day experience of the average black person in Cuba is far less scary than in America. Black lives are not endangered in Cuba, simply because there is far less crime and guns are illegal.


Now, racism does exist in Cuba, but again, it’s just different.

Sira Perez: Yeah,I don’t recall being threatened in Cuba, nothing like the racism here in the U.S. Now, racism does exist in Cuba, but again, it’s just different. For instance, when I was a child, I wanted to take ballet lessons at a school in Havana, but I knew that was a dream that would never come true because of the color of my skin and not having the right connections.


Sira Perez at age 17 in Kingston, Jamaica, 1970. She had just arrived from Cuba and was en route to the U.S.
COURTESY OF SIRA PEREZ

I also remember looking through the holes of the gate to this exclusive tennis club and dreaming of one day to be able to participate. That was also an impossible dream at the time, but I guess that as a black Cuban, I conformed and accepted our place in society.

TR: Do you think black Cubans will become more racially conscious and want to exalt their blackness—for lack of a better term? Bring more awareness to their African ancestry?

Ruben: I don’t think America’s social influence will affect black Cubans. Cuba has been exposed to tourism and has had contact with the developed world for 20 years; that exposure hasn’t triggered a renewed awareness of ethnic identity. Nor has racism become stronger or weaker, in my opinion.

OD: I do think there would be a rise in black culture, but there wouldn’t be a movement to create a Black History Month in Cuba, per se, because, again, Cubans were conditioned to put nationalism before race. Black Cubans wouldn’t do anything to separate themselves, but more so to bring more awareness to black culture and to celebrate it.


I do think there would be a rise in black culture, but there wouldn’t be a movement to create a Black History Month in Cuba, per se, because, again, Cubans were conditioned to put nationalism before race.

Black Cuban public figures, like Celia Cruz, for example, will be celebrated. If a democracy is put in place and restrictions against certain kinds of activism are lifted, people that need to be celebrated in Cuba are going to be celebrated. And a lot of those people are going to be black Cubans for sure. African culture is in the food and it’s in the music—and those are the two most important things in Cuba. [Laughter.]


An Afro-Cuban dancer performs in Havana May 27, 2009, during the Wemilere festival, the most traditional event aimed at maintaining African roots.
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TR: Is that level of racial consciousness a good thing or a bad thing?

GR: I prefer the racial framework in Cuba and other Latin American countries because there are more options than black or white—an attitude that I think the USA needs to adopt now that there are so many bi- and multiracial people. Ruben in Cuba rejects the term “Afro-Cuban,” while Elia and Sira in the U.S. accept it. In my opinion, that’s the U.S. racial framework that Elia and Sira have learned to apply.

*Ruben is a pseudonym. He lives in Cuba and would speak to The Root only on condition of anonymity.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cul...ion_of_us_ties_and_how_their_experiences.html
All I from this is that tap shoes must sell well down there :troll:
 
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