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Eh...I'm getting a rocky III vibe from it. Good but not..Rocky or Creed.

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I liked the first one so looking forward but it's a little worrying to me that the best they could come up with is to come with some Drago shyt again. Like make a little more effort to be creative at least...
Yup first one was great and carved its own lane. This one kinda looks like a step backwards..another Drago, rehashing the "It's suicide...you can't win!" narrative . And I have ZERO faith in the dude Cheo Coker to do something original...
 

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I liked the first one so looking forward but it's a little worrying to me that the best they could come up with is to come with some Drago shyt again. Like make a little more effort to be creative at least...

Creativity and Rocky don't really go together. They recycled the same plot for decades. It's really just about connecting the heart to the audience. I am a little disappointed that Baby Creed doesn't have a theme song.
 

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Yup first one was great and carved its own lane. This one kinda looks like a step backwards..another Drago, rehashing the "It's suicide...you can't win!" narrative . And I have ZERO faith in the dude Cheo Coker to do something original...

Coogler is a producer. He will greatly influence the film despite not directing.
 

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Creativity and Rocky don't really go together. They recycled the same plot for decades. It's really just about connecting the heart to the audience. I am a little disappointed that Baby Creed doesn't have a theme song.
Yup first one was great and carved its own lane. This one kinda looks like a step backwards..another Drago, rehashing the "It's suicide...you can't win!" narrative . And I have ZERO faith in the dude Cheo Coker to do something original...

I gotta disagree with both of you. I initially felt the same way but after thinking about it for a while and then seeing the trailer, this is "creative" in the sense that its the logical next step for a character's journey. He wanted to prove he belonged so the logical next step is proving you're better, which is why you have that scene with moms telling him not to front like this is about his dad; this is about him. He's not trying to avenge his dad, like I previously thought; he wants to prove he's the better man and can do the one thing his dad couldn't do. He can win titles just like his dad, he can make money just like his dad, and he can raise a family just like his dad. But beating a Drago? That's a mountain Apollo couldn't climb and if he can climb that mountain, he will feel like he's the better man.

All that anger and resentment at a parent in that particular situation doesn't just go away. And Stallone has always been a thoughtful filmmaker. Yeah he gets a rep as a big lug and a guy who does a lot for paychecks or just abused his power back in the day, but when it comes to character shyt, he's normally on point. The Drago thing, at least to my knowledge, started with him and I'm sure the writers and director and even Coogler as a producer helped tailor it and get it to the point where everyone was happy with it.
 
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