Creationists: Please Explain Your Understanding of The Creator

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You're growing up. :obama: Its so angelic.

why havent you addressed this yet?

you claim that its impossible for humans to fathom the creator, but you hold up a bible that knows how long it took him to create the earth, his son, etc.

if we cant fathom the creator, then how is the bible even 1% credible?

my stance is that you're right, we cant fathom the creator. so bullshyt religious texts like your bible should be null and void. but you cant claim the bible as fact and at the same time say we cant begin to understand god. its one or the other, friend
 

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my stance is that you're right, we cant fathom the creator.

Ok so what do you want from me. You cant fathom something that has no beginning because a beginning always makes you wonder, what came before the beginning. The question becomes infinite, friend. This is why i say you cant fathom the creator. The beginning of the earth is something you can fathom. How the creator of all things looks to the naked eye, you cant fathom but obviously im smart enough to realize that everything that lives has a creator and everything inorganic has a process by which it can be created. Who puts all these forces in motion. Well, God obviously but can i fathom God, no. Im not smart enough, friend.
 

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why havent you addressed this yet?

you claim that its impossible for humans to fathom the creator, but you hold up a bible that knows how long it took him to create the earth, his son, etc.

if we cant fathom the creator, then how is the bible even 1% credible?

my stance is that you're right, we cant fathom the creator. so bullshyt religious texts like your bible should be null and void. but you cant claim the bible as fact and at the same time say we cant begin to understand god. its one or the other, friend

You're reaching. My question isn't really touched in the Bible like that. Especially not in the way you're saying.
 

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Ok so what do you want from me. You cant fathom something that has no beginning because a beginning always makes you wonder, what came before the beginning. The question becomes infinite, friend. This is why i say you cant fathom the creator. The beginning of the earth is something you can fathom. How the creator of all things looks to the naked eye, you cant fathom but obviously im smart enough to realize that everything that lives has a creator and everything inorganic has a process by which it can be created. Who puts all these forces in motion. Well, God obviously but can i fathom God, no. Im not smart enough, friend.

:what: so how exactly is the bible credible?

i mean for the record, im not an atheist, im an agnostic. for all i know there is a god. but placing your faith in manmade stories is just asinine. so ill ask you again, if we cant fathom the creator, why does the bible attempt to? and how is it at all credible?
 

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so ill ask you again, if we cant fathom the creator, why does the bible attempt to? and how is it at all credible?

I have faith that the Bible reflects reality. In 10000 years, how will people be able to prove that you existed on this Earth outside of a potential verbal record of your ancestors?
 

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You're reaching. My question isn't really touched in the Bible like that. Especially not in the way you're saying.

how am i reaching :rudy: all i said was, how can any bible be credible if the creator is unfathomable. if the bible is a credible text, then god IS fathomable. how can anyone say otherwise?
 

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I have faith that the Bible reflects reality. In 10000 years, how will people be able to prove that you existed on this Earth outside of a potential verbal record of your ancestors?

excellent copout :ehh:

there are not going to be any fantastic or magical claims made about me, and im pretty sure no one is ever going to be giving me credit for creating the earth
 

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how am i reaching :rudy: all i said was, how can any bible be credible if the creator is unfathomable. if the bible is a credible text, then god IS fathomable. how can anyone say otherwise?

The Bible doesn't really explain God like that so no wonder you're not finding that information.

And it's not that a creator is completely unfathomable. Some aspects are just really complex like no beginning and no ending but the same concept exists in mathematics, called infinity. Should we discredit every mathematician then as well?
 

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excellent copout :ehh:

there are not going to be any fantastic or magical claims made about me, and im pretty sure no one is ever going to be giving me credit for creating the earth


If i told you i have a rock at this very moment hovering above my palm you'd tell me i was insane.

If i told you were were living on a large inhabitable rock that floats in the middle of nothingness by forces we dont understand you'd call me an idiot for stating the obvious.

What is magic, friend?
:guilty:
 

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If i told you i have a rock at this very moment hovering above my palm you'd tell me i was insane.

If i told you were were living on a large inhabitable rock that floats in the middle of nothingness by forces we dont understand you'd call me an idiot for stating the obvious.

What is magic, friend?
:guilty:

if i 'explained' it by saying that a being with human-like traits created the entire universe, i would be a credible preacher

its beyond our understanding. lets not act like any human really knows that god told them not to eat pork, or god told us not to covet our neighbors wife. nobody knows
 

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The Bible doesn't really explain God like that so no wonder you're not finding that information.

And it's not that a creator is completely unfathomable. Some aspects are just really complex like no beginning and no ending but the same concept exists in mathematics, called infinity. Should we discredit every mathematician then as well?

o word. so hes not completely unfathomable, just a little unfathomable :beli:

i gotta say, thats a bullshyt ass statement
 

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o word. so hes not completely unfathomable, just a little unfathomable :beli:

i gotta say, thats a bullshyt ass statement

Yes, some things are fathomable, some aren't.

Are you saying you have to understand every aspect about something or you don't understand any part of it at all?

I gotta say, that's a dumb ass statement.
 

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if i 'explained' it by saying that a being with human-like traits created the entire universe, i would be a credible preacher

its beyond our understanding. lets not act like any human really knows that god told them not to eat pork, or god told us not to covet our neighbors wife. nobody knows

Pigs are garbage disposals. Consuming their flesh is bad for you.
 
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