COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[MenacingMonk]

no they LOOKED for a cure for 2 decades- they found one in 1952 by 1954 they were immunizing people - thats 70 years ago - before the advent of using computer modeling and even genetic sequenceing .....like they have now

your whole overall point was "its too soon " to have a vaccine- which is stupid - weve had vaccine development within 2 years after a discovery for other viruses SARS and H1N1 -

the issue isnt that you are selfish - its that you cant read

here - Salk discovered the cure for polio in 1952-

by 1954 mass immunization began -...thats TWO years . not a decade testing the same vaccine -


A Science Odyssey: People and Discoveries: Salk produces polio vaccine

he discovered the vaccine in 1952 , they deployed it en masse by 1954

Ok, good for you for being thorough, but the early ‘30s attempts still count toward the successful development. They tried and failed, then someone came up with the proper vac 2 decades later.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant


Like I said earlier I know a bunch of people who who got this Omicron. Only one isn’t vaccinated. And the ones who are don’t really do shyt but go to work and school. They socially distancing as best they can and still catching it

1. People who are vaccinated are more likely to think they don't need to wear masks, are lured into a false sense of security.
2. Omicron is much more transmissible than other variants.
3. The vaccine doesn't protect you from catching Covid. It just makes your symptoms more mild.
4. The lionshare of those vaccinated people will get over Omicron at higher rates than people who are not vaccinated.

 

[krackdagawd]

People really think the vaccine stops you from getting Covid and try to use that as an excuse to not get vaccinated. Making arguments like “why isn’t it protecting people from getting sick then?” The vaccine doesn’t make you impervious and immune to sickness man it merely makes it so your symptoms are more mild. Antivaxxers are fukking crazy to me

At this point dont even engage w em breh, your best to take care of your immediate family and make sure they are safe. These anti vaxxers arent going away they will just keep coming up w one crazy conspiracy after the next about the vaccine. Its going to be whats its going to be w them until they get very sick, long covid or worse.

The "muh immune sysyem" crowds are the same ones obese living off fast food w their "research". Its gonna be whats its gonna be w them. They dont want to be saved. Just ignore these dudes and do whatever your doctor recommends.

 

[shonuff]

Ok, good for you for being thorough, but the early ‘30s attempts still count toward the successful development. They tried and failed, then someone came up with the proper vac 2 decades later.

again you seem to miss it

they didnt have a vaccine until 1952 they were implementing en mass to everyone by 1954 - it didnt take them decades to IMPLEMENT a vaccine - it took them 2 years to start immunizing everyone with NONE of the technology and understanding about genes or even an ability to understand the genetic make up of a virus....

our technology is way beyond what they had in the 1950s and we got a vaccine to protect us in 18months - thats not an outlier so your issue that it somehow "too soon" to use a vaccine is erroneous - its doesnt take that long to do a study on the effects of a VACCINE . because VACCINES have to work quickly .the effects FROM taking a vaccine are seen usually within two weeks - not years -

let me repeat again- in the history of vaccines there has been NO vaccine that has had some "effect" years later....

if you get a COVID vaccine its still takes you a few days for it to fully give you protection - you dont get a shot and then instantly get protection - you body has to produce the antigens in a suffciant amount to produce the proteins to block the receptors to your cells that allow entry for the COVID virus

it shows peoples ignorance about science and/or their agenda when they point out how someone got a COVID vaccine shot but days later got COVID - ignoring that someone could simply have some other physiological condition that the virus was able to take advantage of ..or the person might have had COVID already and by that time giving you a vaccine is of NO USE

there is article after artcile about peopel inthe hospital showing up with COVID and asking for the vaccine...if you are infected ...its too late. this vaccine is to HELP YOU PREVENT INFECTION - one you are infected youre in a different ballgame ..

its fukking sad that 2 years later with this virus people STILL dont get it...

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

First time Omarion been platinum in years

 

[MenacingMonk]

@shonuff , you ignore the fact they had plenty of years of research, trial and error, and information to develop the vaccine. Yes, clinical trials were only 2 years, but they had all the RESEARCH to create a good vac.

We’re arguing over the irrelevancy and straying off subject.

 

[bnew]

I’m not even gonna bother going back and forth with you after I called you out on so many things. I shouldn’t even have wasted my time after your first post said the polio vaccine was made in less than 2 years when it took over 2 decades to be dropped. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

MRNA vaccines are revolutionary, we don't need to go by some decades old vaccine creation timeframe. the body does most of the work that labs don't need to do. the MRNA vaccine is just instructions to create spike proteins. thats something labs don't need to worry about cultivating, storing or transporting in special conditions, etc, the human body does that work and thats amazing! there'll be a lot more MRNA vaccines to treat various diseases within the decade. the cycle of medical innovation is happening faster which is something that should be welcomed. during this pandemic research scientists have also built a information supply chain that really didn't exist prior to the extent it does now. they are sharing info in real-time.

 

[AAKing23]

My cousin tested positive and is stuck quarantining in Africa She all about traveling and I had a feeling this would happen but you gotta let people do what they gon do

 

[MenacingMonk]

MRNA vaccines are revolutionary, we don't need to go by some decades old vaccine creation timeframe. the body does most of the work that labs don't need to do. the MRNA vaccine is just instructions to create spike proteins. thats something labs don't need to worry about cultivating, store, transport in special conditions, etc, the human body does that work and thats amazing! there'll be a lot more MRNA vaccines to treat various diseases within the decade. the cycle of medical innovation is happening faster which is something that should be welcomed. during this pandemic research scientists have also built a information supply chain to that really didn't exist prior to the extent it does now. they are sharing info in real-time.

See, that's one of my points. I'm not arguing the vacs effectiveness. I'm saying our bodies can do amazing things that are done with or without a vaccine. Of course a vac works, but it's just a part of the puzzle. Our bodies handle shyt differently; and despite a vaccine doing the same job for everyone, the journey getting there varies from person to person.

 

[bnew]

See, that's one of my points. I'm not arguing the vacs effectiveness. I'm saying our bodies can do amazing things that are done with or without a vaccine. Of course a vac works, but it's just a part of the puzzle. Our bodies handle shyt differently; and despite a vaccine doing the same job for everyone, the journey getting there varies from person to person.

you're misconstruing my words, the body does most of the work once we give it a specific task via the MRNA vaccine. covid has it's own agenda and it's delusional to assume an individual person can predict how and when their immune system will react to it.

it's safe to assume all those unvaccinated individuals currently hospitalized probably thought their 'journey' would be more "pleasant" than it currently is.
theres plenty of examples of people assuming the best outcome for themselves because they were attuned with how strong their immune system was and assumed wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVIDAteMyFace/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

 

[MenacingMonk]

you're misconstruing my words, the body does most of the work once we give it a specific task via the MRNA vaccine. covid has it's own agenda and it's delusional to assume an individual person can predict how and when their immune system will react to it.

it's safe to assume all those unvaccinated individuals currently hospitalized probably thought their 'journey' would be more "pleasant" than it currently is.
theres plenty of examples of people assuming the best outcome for themselves because they were attuned with how strong their immune system was and assumed wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVIDAteMyFace/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

I literally said our bodies differ. I'm not saying everyone is gonna have a "decent experience" when dealing with this. Doesn't change the fact that the body can do a lot of amazing things and you're downplaying it's capabilities with or without a vaccine.

 

[bnew]

snippet:

Respiratory therapist Alva Daniels fought in covid hot spots throughout the pandemic, but it was only in recent months that the strain began to show.

He started calling his wife from the hospital bathroom, crying, when he lost a patient. “We can’t save them. All we do is bag ’em and tag ’em,” he told a friend. Then, as coronavirus cases fueled by the delta variant rose over the summer, he told his wife: “Things are getting bad again and we don’t have enough people to fight it. If something happens to me — if I die — I want to be buried next to my mom.”

Alicia McAllister-Daniels, a nurse, thought her husband was talking about a breakthrough case of covid-19. Instead, Daniels, 38, died by suicide just five days later, his body found in a wooded area near the apartment in Fredericksburg where he was living while on a travel assignment.

https://archive.fo/k5NCo

 

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[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Got my results back

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