Could Val Venis have been Triple H?

[OmegaK2099]

Did you just say Val could be main eventing?? With Stone Cold , Taker , Prime Kane, Prime Rocky and Foley . No just no . Val best match was with damn Rikishi . He wasn’t close to being a star. He was a mid carder and even with a gimmick change would be exposed once Eddie and Kurt arrived, plus CB. Matter of fact thinking that Edge and Christian and the Hardy’s were there also with new age outlaws. He was at best curtain jerker or enhancement talent.

He wouldn't be on HHH's level, but why you acting like he was the worst thing ever? Again if he didn't have the porn star gimmick he'd have potential.

 

[The G.O.D II]

No, no, no, and no.

They had unique talents and distinctive creative personas that couldn’t be duplicated.

Triple H wasn’t a unique talent or persona and was just like insert generic tall roided up He-man built dude with blonde hair.

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

D’lo was over, had a silly little thing(the head roll shyt could have been the eyebrow)
Mideon was an overweight weirdo just like foley
Kurgan was green and shyt just like the big show
The Harris were redneck trash just like Austin and they were tall which Vince loves

Point is you can play these silly little games with any wrestler

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

D’lo was over, had a silly little thing(the head roll shyt could have been the eyebrow)
Mideon was an overweight weirdo just like foley
Kurgan was green and shyt just like the big show
The Harris were redneck trash just like Austin and they were tall which Vince loves

Point is you can play these silly little games with any wrestler

Lol The Rock became a megastar cause of his look and promos, which couldn’t be duplicated or matched by D-Lo or anyone else.

Foley got over as a heel and face cause of his brilliant promos and creative abilities as well as the crazy bumps he would take and he was already a wrestling legend before he got to WWF.

The Big Show always has a role just like Andre always has a role cause this two were the only true giants in wrestling, and he was a former WCW champ. There have been other people similar to Kurgan’s size.

The Austin-Harris brothers isn’t even worth addressing

Outside of Big Show who was just big, you named 3 guys (Austin, Rock, Foley) that were savants at understanding how to connect with the audience and created their own characters.

Triple H just looked the part and made friends with the right people. There’s nothing he did that Val Venis or Billy Gunn couldn’t have done if booked in his role.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Na, simply because that gimmick was stuck to him. In all honesty, that white privilege pushed him above Godfather who was a far better gimmick and wrestler.

To answer your question, Edge or Christian would've done a better job with Vickie Guerrero.

Most wrestlers take years to evolve into greatness, triple H didn't. He was the new age Hogan with less charisma and likeability.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Lol The Rock became a megastar cause of his look and promos, which couldn’t be duplicated or matched by D-Lo or anyone else.

Foley got over as a heel and face cause of his brilliant promos and creative abilities as well as the crazy bumps he would take and he was already a wrestling legend before he got to WWF.

The Big Show always has a role just like Andre always has a role cause this two were the only true giants in wrestling, and he was a former WCW champ. There have been other people similar to Kurgan’s size.

The Austin-Harris brothers isn’t even worth addressing

Outside of Big Show who was just big, you named 3 guys (Austin, Rock, Foley) that were savants at understanding how to connect with the audience and created their own characters.

Triple H just looked the part and made friends with the right people. There’s nothing he did that Val Venis or Billy Gunn couldn’t have done if booked in his role.

You still fail to realize that anyone can be anything as long as the company backs you. Flair has always looked like shyt. Crockett still back home. Vince sr saw Hogan as a generic upper card heel. Vince Jr saw him as a star. The rock could have been Christ Masters still dressing in sonic the hedgehog green hill zone attire if Vince wanted

 

[DamienWayne]

Anyone who knew how to play politics could have been HHH , but they didn’t , he did.

It’s all about the game


And how u play it

 

[MightyHealthy]

The only thing crazier than the OP's take is the fact that it is one of the most sensible in this thread

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You still fail to realize that anyone can be anything as long as the company backs you. Flair has always looked like shyt. Crockett still back home. Vince sr saw Hogan as a generic upper card heel. Vince Jr saw him as a star. The rock could have been Christ Masters still dressing in sonic the hedgehog green hill zone attire if Vince wanted

Lol nah bro. Not everyone’s simply a clever marketing creation. Flair and Rock were true stars.

Rock is the most sought entertainer in Hollywood today and you’re talking about he could’ve been Chris Masters. They put him in The Nation and he got himself over by adlibbing his promos and creating his own character.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Lol nah bro. Not everyone’s simply a clever marketing creation. Flair and Rock were true stars.

Rock is the most sought entertainer in Hollywood today and you’re talking about he could’ve been Chris Masters. They put him in The Nation and he got himself over by adlibbing his promos and creating his own character.

and what if they decided to do him like Zack Ryder or Sandow and refuse to push him?

 

[GOATpernick]

The Big ValGOATski was always more over than Haitch

 

[NYChase718]

Yes anyone could have done HHHs role.
Just associate yourself with top names and kiss the bosses ass. Dude was always an overachiever due to who he surrounded himself with

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

and what if they decided to do him like Zack Ryder or Sandow and refuse to push him?

I don’t know who they are but generally speaking if you can get yourself over you get pushed. The examples you used in this thread (The Rock, Austin, Foley) don’t serve your case well cause they all 3 clearly got themselves over.

Triple H got the same fan reaction when he was getting buried for the curtain call that he got after winning the King of Ring and up until DX:

 

[NYChase718]

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Triple H got the same fan reaction when he was getting buried for the curtain call that he got after winning the King of Ring and up until DX:

Whats funny about 1999 being "his time". Chyna was the one getting all the shine. First woman in royal rumble push. The KOTR push. HHH was being a corporate henchman doing nothing. Then summerslam came and they were legit considering putting the belt on chyna. HHH still didnt win at summerslam. Then of course he ditched her and joined stephanie and its easy to see what he did.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Anyone who knew how to play politics could have been HHH , but they didn’t , he did.

It’s all about the game


And how u play it

Yeah, it’s obvious. Paul Levesque the man got in with the right people, kissed the right ass and licked the right p*ssy.

Any random clone from the Lex Luger factory could’ve been Triple H the wrestler though.

 

[Techniec]

I agree 100%

I pretty much stopped watching wrestling around the time Triple H started getting his push. It wasnt just that alone, there were other factors for sure (botched WCW merger, invasion gimmick was fukked up, failure to develop credible new stars...Cena was a good, still is)

But ya man fukk Triple H. Dudes like the Jay Z of wrestling in a sense