Could a 03' 50 cent "ja rule" a current drake back in the early 00s landscape or naw

[Budda]

"Authencity" like goons that TRIED to rap, led to 50 Cent because image and background story was worth more than timeless music.

50 cent music was timeless, wtf

 

[Budda]

This. When he sold so much but guys like Nas & Jada couldn’t go multi platinum that was the nail in the coffin. Controversy helped him sell but people got tired of that gimmick. That’s why the south took over. His sales dipped with each album release.

Get rich or die tryin> Any Jada album.

 

[BK The Great]

Get rich or die tryin> Any Jada album.

That’s 50’s best album, but Jadakiss Kiss of Death might be better than everything after that. Lyrically it’s not even close though. Jada’s solo album got DJ Premier on it and Nas on a feature. Production carried 50 more than his lyrics.

 

[Budda]

That’s 50’s best album, but Jadakiss Kiss of Death might be better than everything after that. Lyrically it’s not even close though. Jada’s solo album got DJ Premier on it and Nas on a feature. Production carried 50 more than his lyrics.

No 50 songwriting carried the album more than the production, some of the production even sounds dated but 50 hooks, rhymes and general ability to construct classic songs stood out.

 

[BK The Great]

No 50 songwriting carried the album more than the production, some of the production even sounds dated but 50 hooks, rhymes and general ability to construct classic songs stood out.

Guess people don’t like bars or lyrical ability then cause that’s just generic music. Songwriting sounds good but that’s pretty much it. I want a combination of both but more about lyrics and skill.

 

[Budda]

Guess people don’t like bars or lyrical ability then cause that’s just generic music. Songwriting sounds good but that’s pretty much it. I want a combination of both but more about lyrics and skill.

I like both nothing generic about 21 Questions Heat Many Men, these are legendary tracks monumental, for example Jada Nas Jay could have had the Many Men beat spit a bunch of multis and not even come close to the level of emotion and pain 50 evoked on that track, no other rapper at that moment could make that track what it was but 50

The Massacre was a good album too it might be better than GRODT, if you take away a couple tracks, 50’had a great run from 02-06 he made classic music, and so did Ja Rule, I look back on those times with fondness.

 

[CHICAGO]

IN 03?

OF COURSE...

BACK WHEN nikkaS STILL
CARED ABOUT GHOST WRITERS
AND BLACK FACE...

THERE WAS NO SOCIAL MEDIA
STANNING TO SPIN NARRATIVES
SO LS REALLY MATTERED.



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[BK The Great]

I like both nothing generic about 21 Questions Heat Many Men, these are legendary tracks monumental, for example Jada Nas Jay could have had the Many Men beat spit a bunch of multis and not even come close to the level of emotion and pain 50 evoked on that track, no other rapper at that moment could make that track what it was but 50

The Massacre was a good album too it might be better than GRODT, if you take away a couple tracks, 50’had a great run from 02-06 he made classic music, and so did Ja Rule, I look back on those times with fondness.

Massacre will never be better than GRODT. Way too mainstream with the wack songs brought that album way down. I find myself listening to his mixtapes more than his albums. Again, you’re a fan of songwriting. So you won’t really like listening to guys like Jada or Nas or a Jay. 50 lacks rapping ability, so he uses charisma. That doesn’t mean guys like Nas or Jada don’t have that cause they do.

 

[Professor Polo]

"Authencity" like goons that TRIED to rap, led to 50 Cent because image and background story was worth more than timeless music.

Authenticity like writing your own lyrics

 

[the elastic]

Drake Kanye West'ing 50 is more likely

 

[SilverSamurai]

This would have been a dream come true

 

[banner34]

No, not in this era. Drake also have a cult like fan base now.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Totally different eras so you can't make the comparison. A better question would be...could a hood or more "rappity rap" dude have clowned Drake in the last decade, like 50 did Ja. My answer is no and it's why I've always felt like people saying Kendrick (or Cole) would destroy Drake haven't been paying attention. Both are better rappers, make better albums, and don't have ghostwriters. But people identity with Drake more than them, and audiences today are more like Drake than a dude who grew up poor in Compton or North Carolina. The melody stuff has been dominant for too long, nobody knocks him for his suburban roots, nobody cares that he's not a gangsta, and we saw that most people didn't even give a shyt that he has/had ghostwriters.

He's basically got that 8 Mile Rabbit thing where his weaknesses don't hurt him because he acknowledged them. Yea he's a simp, he's told you that for a decade so how can he be attacked on that.

The simp shyt isn’t the only shot he has against him

I’m convinced You Ain’t gotta Lie was a Drake sub

And that’s how I’d expect Kendrick to go at him

 

[ISO]

Totally different eras so you can't make the comparison. A better question would be...could a hood or more "rappity rap" dude have clowned Drake in the last decade, like 50 did Ja. My answer is no and it's why I've always felt like people saying Kendrick (or Cole) would destroy Drake haven't been paying attention. Both are better rappers, make better albums, and don't have ghostwriters. But people identity with Drake more than them, and audiences today are more like Drake than a dude who grew up poor in Compton or North Carolina. The melody stuff has been dominant for too long, nobody knocks him for his suburban roots, nobody cares that he's not a gangsta, and we saw that most people didn't even give a shyt that he has/had ghostwriters.

He's basically got that 8 Mile Rabbit thing where his weaknesses don't hurt him because he acknowledged them. Yea he's a simp, he's told you that for a decade so how can he be attacked on that.

Drake album wise is more critically acclaimed than Cole with a certified classic album in Take Care so not sure where better albums is coming from

Overall Drake’s music also resonates more even with those who grew up poor in North Carolina and Compton

 

[Bolzmark]

The further you go back the more people cared if you wrote your own rhymes or not so maybe.