Could a 03' 50 cent "ja rule" a current drake back in the early 00s landscape or naw

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as much as I hate Drake naw bruh

times have changed

Drake been a wannabe his whole life and people looked right past that :yeshrug:

real shyt might come back in style but I don't see it happening anytime soon
 

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Of course not.

That shyt was the perfect storm back then. You really can't replicate shyt like that.

50 Cent was the last major cash grab of the superthug Crack Era rapper. They knew that NO ONE else would come after him and be "realer" than him. He was the stereotypical black male times 1000 that made white record execs blush.

Kanye came in 04 and everything else changed.
 

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If Meek couldn’t end Drake armed with the knowledge and PROOF that he’s a fraud who can’t write a rhyme to save his life and allowed other men to piss on him then naw. Ain’t nobody bodying Drake the way 50 (and the feds) strong armed Ja.


The closest was Push
Meek ended his own career going after drake.
 

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Today? No
The reason is, they didn't let it happen to Ross
Coli loves to call drake a fake and all kinda shyt but they champion Ross who is a known fake and fraud lol

Times have changed.
Yeah Ross survived it but that was still after Lil Wayne kissing Birdman came out. That was when I knew the game changed when it came to what fans would accept from their favorite rapper.

The real Rick Ross dissing him + 50 Cent beef hurt his legacy a bit. Some people still hold those 2 things against him.
 

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50 cent didn't end Ja rule's career, Interscope did that. you guys got to realize that the machines behind these rappers is what keeps them from "losing battles". What Joe Budden and Pusha T did to Drake should have ended him, but he's got a powerful machine behind him with them promoting that "back to back" bullshyt like it was the hottest diss song ever. Ja rule and 50 were going back and forth for years, but as soon as Ja rule mentioned amerikkka's favorite kkkrakker, it was over for him. Add in that years following that, Interscope would have their artists on 8 of the 12 covers per year of XXL magazine. This shyt stop being about lyrics in battles once I saw people trying to convince me LL's "the ripper strikes back" was a good song.
 

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Totally different eras so you can't make the comparison. A better question would be...could a hood or more "rappity rap" dude have clowned Drake in the last decade, like 50 did Ja. My answer is no and it's why I've always felt like people saying Kendrick (or Cole) would destroy Drake haven't been paying attention. Both are better rappers, make better albums, and don't have ghostwriters. But people identity with Drake more than them, and audiences today are more like Drake than a dude who grew up poor in Compton or North Carolina. The melody stuff has been dominant for too long, nobody knocks him for his suburban roots, nobody cares that he's not a gangsta, and we saw that most people didn't even give a shyt that he has/had ghostwriters.

He's basically got that 8 Mile Rabbit thing where his weaknesses don't hurt him because he acknowledged them. Yea he's a simp, he's told you that for a decade so how can he be attacked on that.


Right. That to me is the key, and the shift occurred around 2009. For anyone to get "Ja Ruled", street rap has to be the dominant part of the culture, and it isn't anymore. It's still there, but the "rules" shifted.
 
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