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Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic
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The stats are the stats
A not insignificant percent of people require breathing assistance to pull through this. Those machines, tanks, trained medical workers etc only exist in finite quantities. How do you square that?
Emotions are painful, if you recognize that they lose a lot of their grip.. you're being emotional
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Change is inevitable...
Restoring the feeling....of your soul leaving your body due to infectious diseaseNYC continues to be the goat city of ignorance
First because school aged children are thankfully not greatly affected by the virus (although they'll probably spread it the mostWhy why is this city so hard on keeping schools open?As a kid I remember mayor Bloomberg making us go to school in 3 feet of snow. shyt makes no sense. It’s not like our school system is the best. NYC educational system is trash.
)Secondly because we have no social services to handle all children being out of school. If 40% of just nurses have children do they go to work or stay with their children?
Thirdly because we have very high poverty rate. Those two schools that are closed in the Bronx will still give out lunches because kids have nothing to eat. We basically have soup lines.
Bu bu but socialism
They should do skeleton school for kids who dont have a good situation while parents are working. Put them all in the gym with some kickballs and let em go off. Feed them two meals, a movie here and there, and call it good
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for cities with 250-1000 person caps, i'm wondering if people can go to church?
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Thats why Lindsay has been so quiet. He has it. 
BReh kids in schools don’t need breathing assistance even if they get infected. They are not at risk for this disease. I understand sending older staff or teachers home but shutting down the school is going too far in my opinion, you want to just shut down the whole country for a virus that only affects a tiny portion of the population, then that’s fine, but you have to recognize there are trade offs, kids not in school, people losing jobs. For me it’s not worth it. I don’t deny that there’s a psychological and emotional aspect to this, but a lot of that is media driven
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Q: Do you think COVID-19 is the worst outbreak in modern times in terms of scale and severity (versus SARS, MERS, H1N1 e.g.)?
A: COVID-19 is definitely worse than its cousins, SARS and MERS.
Time will tell where COVID-19 ranks among influenza pandemics and other major epidemics.
If COVID-19's case-fatality ratio remains the same and the virus infects as many people as the 2009 H1N1 pandemic (60.8 million) or more, then COVID-19 could certainly go down as one of the worst, if not the worst, outbreak of all time.
Follow up Q: What about as bad as Spanish flu? Are you saying it is inside the realm of possibility that more than 50,000,000 people will die? With the current WHO lethality estimate of 3.4% that would require ~1.5 billion people be infected.
Follow up A: Two of the leading epidemiologists on outbreaks--Gabriel Leung of Hong Kong University and Harvard's Marc Lipsitch--predicted that up to 60 percent of the planet could be infected by the novel coronavirus.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...nymore-a-03d404e6-762b-42fb-ac48-e4a8f03a2f2b
World population: 7,700,000,000
60 percent of ^^: 4,600,000,000
3.4 percent of ^^: 156,000,000
The overall case-fatality ratio might improve if a larger fraction of mild cases are revealed, or it might worsen if the virus spreads widely in countries with a high proportion of high-risk individuals (ex. Italy).
The takeaway: If this virus reaches a lot of people, it has the potential to do serious damage
Q: Do you think COVID-19 is the worst outbreak in modern times in terms of scale and severity (versus SARS, MERS, H1N1 e.g.)?
A: COVID-19 is definitely worse than its cousins, SARS and MERS.
Time will tell where COVID-19 ranks among influenza pandemics and other major epidemics.
If COVID-19's case-fatality ratio remains the same and the virus infects as many people as the 2009 H1N1 pandemic (60.8 million) or more, then COVID-19 could certainly go down as one of the worst, if not the worst, outbreak of all time.
Follow up Q: What about as bad as Spanish flu? Are you saying it is inside the realm of possibility that more than 50,000,000 people will die? With the current WHO lethality estimate of 3.4% that would require ~1.5 billion people be infected.
Follow up A: Two of the leading epidemiologists on outbreaks--Gabriel Leung of Hong Kong University and Harvard's Marc Lipsitch--predicted that up to 60 percent of the planet could be infected by the novel coronavirus.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...nymore-a-03d404e6-762b-42fb-ac48-e4a8f03a2f2b
World population: 7,700,000,000
60 percent of ^^: 4,600,000,000
3.4 percent of ^^: 156,000,000
The overall case-fatality ratio might improve if a larger fraction of mild cases are revealed, or it might worsen if the virus spreads widely in countries with a high proportion of high-risk individuals (ex. Italy).
The takeaway: If this virus reaches a lot of people, it has the potential to do serious damage
I went back and forth about the fatality rate wit someone a few pages ago. The fatality rate is not reliable because of selection bias. You need a sample with comprehensive testing, which right now is probably only South Korea (.6% fatality). Italy is way behind on testing in comparison, and so are we
im just not seeing the menace that other people are. What’s really going on is boomers getting scared shytless they’re gonna die early and fukking the rest of us over
In the philly area church services can still happen, but they strongly advise them to cancel or at least limit the handshaking and stuff like that
edit: I should add it seems that the forced cancellations are things that the cities/counties approve permits for