Cornel West reacts to Obama's remarks on GZ verdict. Calls Obama a hypocrite and global GZ.

[Mr. Somebody]

Cornell West seems to only speak when it concerns what the president is doing. Never do i hear him speak about other brands of demonic filth. Just the policies of the government and the president. I feel he should be speaking about the demonic culture that is influencing our people to engage in filth and what we need to do about that. I guess its difficult to be an advocate for real change when you're surrounded by academics in the hills sippin Pelligrino.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I want to add to this by relaying my personal experience with "anti-capitalist" Cornell West. My graduate department was holding a symposium, which was inspired by the OWS movement. I was in charge of securing a guest speaker, and given our larger than normal budget I reached out to Cornell West. His immediate response was to ask for twice the amount of our whole guest speaker coffers (the compensation was quite generous as is), a first class plane ticket, and limo transportation services to and from the best hotel in the area. The demands were exorbitant. I tried to scrounge up a few more dollars, and appeal to his commitment to student mind, body, and spirit, but I probably would have had better luck attempting to engage Bill O'Reilly. I still respect the man, but I walked away pretty disillusioned over him, personally.

Damn this is disheartening as fukk. Kinda predictable though, ivy tower intellectual stereotype.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You are reaching far too hard here for an argument. You read something I wrote and tried to contort it into an argument. .

I thought this portion of the site was about discourse. I might as well be in the locker room at this rate or on lipstick alley. Re-read my posts and please quote directly where I said 'he wasn't an activist or did anything besides talk'. Not to mention I could literally fill this page up with people who have started non-profit organizations to address issues they have come across in the world. You seriously can't be that dense. Seriously.

Furthermore I have no problem with Dr. West and I have a great deal of respect for him. I've seen him in person several times of my own volition. At one of the events (Home Depot Corporate Office) they even gave out this cd Amazon.com: Never Forget: A Journey of Revelations: Cornel West & BMWMB, Black Men Who Mean Business: Music .

Apparently you flat out didn't read the part where I said 'I do agree with Dr. West's main theme'. Are you seriously just here to argue and not read?

You are all over the place. First you mentioned social programs now your talking about nonprofits. do you even understand the difference?

Social programs in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im not sure what point your even trying to make Here.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@No_bammer_weed what starting offer did you make him? I understand if you can't comment tho

 

[iamstr8fire]

You are all over the place. First you mentioned social programs now your talking about nonprofits. do you even understand the difference?

Social programs in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im not sure what point your even trying to make Here.

on the pure definition of Social Programs you are right. +1 breh . I'm not going to argue semantics, b/c that will just dilute my point.

When I said social programs I meant putting programs together that address and/or eliminate social issues. In my opinion if something irks you enough you don't have to be part of the government to create a solution. That's why I mentioned non profits.

My point is Cornell West isn't the kind of person that is going to put a ton of energy into something like that. I'm not trying to discredit him (as you seem to think). I am saying that he isn't going to be out in front actually putting solutions in place. Ultimately, it is his choice to be an activist, thought leader, adviser, etc. No one is locking him into that, nor have I ever faulted him for staying in his own lane.

The point I've been making this entire time is that I don't personally get behind people like that because they are not out there eliminating problems. Doesn't mean I don't respect them for who they are, they just aren't people that I am clamoring to emulate.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

@No_bammer_weed what starting offer did you make him? I understand if you can't comment tho

several thousand dollars...exact dollar amount escapes me, because the figures kept changing as we constantly increased the compensation package. Crazy thing is that we didnt want him for anything super formal. We just wanted pick his brain and shoot the sht with him mainly.

 

[iamstr8fire]

several thousand dollars...exact dollar amount escapes me, because the figures kept changing as we constantly increased the compensation package. Crazy thing is that we didnt want him for anything super formal. We just wanted pick his brain and shoot the sht with him mainly.

This article seems to suggest that his fee was $25k as recently as February 2012. That's not really unreasonable for someone of his celebrity.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

This article seems to suggest that his fee was $25k as recently as February 2012. That's not really unreasonable for someone of his celebrity.

We weren't charging for our symposium, or trying to make a dollar off of anything --- everything was out of pocket. It wasnt a capitalist-minded endeavor like the event you linked; it was centered around the OWS movement. I never even set a specific date --- there was 100% flexibility around his schedule. I dont want to get too deep into this, but for someone who espouses the rhetoric that he does, his response to our overtures was a bit of a disappointment; however, he is free to set any personal fee standard he sees fit. Thats the American capitalist way.

 

[Type Username Here]

I want to add to this by relaying my personal experience with "anti-capitalist" Cornell West. My graduate department was holding a symposium, which was inspired by the OWS movement. I was in charge of securing a guest speaker, and given our larger than normal budget I reached out to Cornell West. His immediate response was to ask for twice the amount of our whole guest speaker coffers (the compensation was quite generous as is), a first class plane ticket, and limo transportation services to and from the best hotel in the area. The demands were exorbitant. I tried to scrounge up a few more dollars, and appeal to his commitment to student mind, body, and spirit, but I probably would have had better luck attempting to engage Bill O'Reilly. I still respect the man, but I walked away pretty disillusioned over him, personally.

May I ask what does this have to do with countering the points he has brought up in this video?

Even if true (right now we have to take your word for it), how is that an indictment on the points he raised about the issues he spoke of?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

How are we going to press on when this nikka is fightin us every step of the way and he's the fukkin president. If he didnt 'make em so mad' I would slap the shyt outta him myself.

Hey, stop whining and PRESS ON. Didn't you hear the president?



BTW, what the fukk does it mean to "press on" anyways? I swear this nikka has the black community so wrapped around his finger its hilarious!

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

We weren't charging for our symposium, or trying to make a dollar off of anything --- everything was out of pocket. It wasnt a capitalist-minded endeavor like the event you linked; it was centered around the OWS movement. I never even set a specific date --- there was 100% flexibility around his schedule. I dont want to get too deep into this, but for someone who espouses the rhetoric that he does, his response to our overtures was a bit of a disappointment; however, he is free to set any personal fee standard he sees fit. Thats the American capitalist way.

This is ridiculous. Your essentially upset Dr. West wouldn't come to your little mixer, so now your holding this pathetic grudge against the man. Im sure Dr. West gets hundreds of solicitations to speak at various functions. The guy is a worldwide figure. Get over it.

I once was in charge of organizing a large premedical conference and tried to get Dr. Ben Carson to speak at our function. After alot of correspondence initially, he ultimately declined but sent us an autographed letter expressing his sorrow. I was admittedly disappointing in his not being able to attend, but i'm not going to hold pathetic grudge for years and besmirch the man's name because of it.

In short, stop being sensitive.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I want to add to this by relaying my personal experience with "anti-capitalist" Cornell West. My graduate department was holding a symposium, which was inspired by the OWS movement. I was in charge of securing a guest speaker, and given our larger than normal budget I reached out to Cornell West. His immediate response was to ask for twice the amount of our whole guest speaker coffers (the compensation was quite generous as is), a first class plane ticket, and limo transportation services to and from the best hotel in the area. The demands were exorbitant. I tried to scrounge up a few more dollars, and appeal to his commitment to student mind, body, and spirit, but I probably would have had better luck attempting to engage Bill O'Reilly. I still respect the man, but I walked away pretty disillusioned over him, personally.

@Walt

What do you expect from a dude who played in the Matrix and tried to qualify a fukking rap album as an academic publishing?

I'm laughing at this dude @Nigerianwonder talking
about him like he's James Baldwin or something. He WAS impactful and accomplished. He's been an academically and socially useless self-promoting joke for like 2 decades now.

 

[Type Username Here]

@Walt

What do you expect from a dude who played in the Matrix and tried to qualify a fukking rap album as an academic publishing?

I'm laughing at this dude @Nigerianwonder talking
about him like he's James Baldwin or something. He WAS impactful and accomplished. He's been an academically and socially useless self-promoting joke for like 3 decades now.

Merely my opinion, but I think leading one of the only, and by far largest, poverty awareness campaigns in the last 10 years is an attempt at making an impact. Going to protest and being arrested for peaceful protesting against corporate corruption in our government is an attempt at making an impact.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

@Walt

What do you expect from a dude who played in the Matrix and tried to qualify a fukking rap album as an academic publishing?

I'm laughing at this dude @Nigerianwonder talking
about him like he's James Baldwin or something. He WAS impactful and accomplished. He's been an academically and socially useless self-promoting joke for like 3 decades now.

Oh so he WAS impactful because he so mercilessly shyt on your president so eloquently?

Liberals are like women I swear. You make decisions based on your emotions instead of your brain.

BTW, feel free to educate us simpletons on how Dr. West was incorrect or inappropriate in his assessment of the presidnet's half assed Race Speech part deux.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

May I ask what does this have to do with countering the points he has brought up in this video?

Even if true (right now we have to take your word for it), how is that an indictment on the points he raised about the issues he spoke of?

I just decided to offer a story of my personal dealings with Mr. West, to allow others to position it against his doctrines, values, rhetoric and damming of others as "hypocrites". If you feel I made the story up simply to throw shade on Mr. West, you are free to conclude what you wish. As far as the issues raised by West they arent meritless, but its hard for me to shake this idea that hes fallen in love with being a provocative critic of Obama. He oversimplifies Obama's role, and our impossible political environment. His critiques are often too one-dimensional.