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[Cladyclad]

nikka I was 16 when IWW came out

That shyt played EVERYWHERE and nikkas loved it

But let’s just agree to disagree

People love a lot of albums don’t mean they classic

Y’all kill me with this album popularity and sales mean everything. That’s a lot of y’all argument a lot of times with this album.

 

[Piff Perkins]

It’s pretty much the truth. Illmatic the only album he got that is a undisputed classic. Nas got a lot of good albums but none other than Illmatic are classic. So this album is getting championed by Nas fans

IWW being considered a classic album is not some Nas fan specific argument though. If you were to say the idea of Untitled or God's Son being classics are Nas fan/stan specific arguments then yea you'd be right. IWW being a classic is not some controversial take, and certainly not in New York.

The thing that confuses me is if everyone or most people think Nas only has one GREAT (or classic) album, why is he an automatic top 3-5 rapper in the eyes of so many people from that era and eras after? Clearly there's something missing here. You say he has multiple good albums and I'd agree, but there's a disconnect here. A lot of dudes from NY got one great or classic album. Why aren't they held in the same esteem, especially in New York?

 

[Cladyclad]

IWW being considered a classic album is not some Nas fan specific argument though. If you were to say the idea of Untitled or God's Son being classics are Nas fan/stan specific arguments then yea you'd be right. IWW being a classic is not some controversial take, and certainly not in New York.

The thing that confuses me is if everyone or most people think Nas only has one GREAT (or classic) album, why is he an automatic top 3-5 rapper in the eyes of so many people from that era and eras after? Clearly there's something missing here. You say he has multiple good albums and I'd agree, but there's a disconnect here. A lot of dudes from NY got one great or classic album. Why aren't they held in the same esteem, especially in New York?

The same way Snoop is looked at. One album can do wonders along with good albums through their career.

Please show me anywhere in 2006 where IWW was called a classic

Nobody was saying Jay u are wrong IWW is a classic. Not a damn soul said that even Nas stans

 

[HNIC973]

For the dumb nikkaz this is what makes IWW classic





Now please STFU not to mention IIRTW Suspect Watch dem nikkaz The set up Silent Murder Street Dreams Affirmative Action ect... This album being some Nas fan/ stan made up classic is bullshyt stfu

 

[Piff Perkins]

The same way Snoop is looked at. One album can do wonders along with good albums through their career.

I'd see your point if Snoop is considered a consensus top 3-5 guy but he's not. There is no other comparison to point to which is why it doesn't make sense. Why is this one guy considered in that discussion off one album (that didn't even sell well or was in casual fan discussion until what, 2000?). The more likely answer is that people consider IWW a classic as well, plus the good albums you mentioned. Nor is this a controversial take among media or other rappers. Budden, Royce, Lupe, Schoolboy Q....you can put together a pretty long list of good and meh rappers who casually view IWW as classic and influencial.

 

[JustCKing]

The same way Snoop is looked at. One album can do wonders along with good albums through their career.

Please show me anywhere in 2006 where IWW was called a classic

Nobody was saying Jay u are wrong IWW is a classic. Not a damn soul said that even Nas stans

Breh, who has Snoop Dogg on a Top 3-5 rappers.

And as for IWW being called a classic in 2006, I have a Scratch magazine from that year where it is called a classic and they did this breakdown of the album where they discussed the samples on each song. It was in depth too because they were listing zamples that weren't in the liner notes. The same year, Lupe was out here talking about how influential IWW was on Food & Liquor.

 

[Cladyclad]

@Piff Perkins 50 cent is also in a lot of peoples top 5-10 off one album with a even shakier catalog

Breh, who has Snoop Dogg on a Top 3-5 rappers.

And as for IWW being called a classic in 2006, I have a Scratch magazine from that year where it is called a classic and they did this breakdown of the album where they discussed the samples on each song. It was in depth too because they were listing zamples that weren't in the liner notes. The same year, Lupe was out here talking about how influential IWW was on Food & Liquor.

is vol 2 a classic?

 

[Piff Perkins]

All

is vol 2 a classic?

I'd say Vol 2 is a classic. Source gave it a 4.5 at the time, I don't think that's a far fetched argument to make today in hindsight.

 

[JustCKing]

@Piff Perkins 50 cent is also in a lot of peoples top 5-10 off one album with a even shakier catalog

is vol 2 a classic?

I have Vol. 2 as a classic because after it dropped, a lot of artist's copied that template for a successful album. These were the super producer, I need a song for every type of audience type albums. Jadakiss and Fabolous spent most of their careers trying to mimic what Jay had going on Vol. 2.

Try again, please.

 

[DontEemTry]

Of course this would turn into a Nas/Jay-Z thread.

Y'all really are sheep, god damn.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

This album has gotten more love from me over the years, but I didn't like it at all minus a few cuts when it first dropped. And I'd probably put Stillmatic over it tbh.

There's no beating around the bush about shyt like this was "ahead of its time" or whatever spin people wanna put on it. It got criticized when it came out because it was an album catering to a mainstream sound smack dab in the middle of a sound war in '96. The East vs. West beef wasn't the only friction in hip-hop that year. The battle for the direction of hip-hop was alive and well and I clearly remember it. Plenty of people felt (and still do) that Nas was selling the music short.

 

[HNIC973]

You can tell who was outside& who wasn't nikkaz who don't call IWW classic are the Vlad Elliot Wilson types

 

[HNIC973]

This album has gotten more love from me over the years, but I didn't like it at all minus a few cuts when it first dropped. And I'd probably put Stillmatic over it tbh.

There's no beating around the bush about shyt like this was "ahead of its time" or whatever spin people wanna put on it. It got criticized when it came out because it was an album catering to a mainstream sound smack dab in the middle of a sound war in '96. The East vs. West beef wasn't the only friction in hip-hop that year. The battle for the direction of hip-hop was alive and well and I clearly remember it. Plenty of people felt (and still do) that Nas was selling the music short.

maybe those so called "people" should've supported the sound & Illmatic back then

 

[Awesome Wells]

The only people that hated on the album when it dropped, were journalists outside of the community and "real Hip Hop" posers who hated anything that wasn't obscure or on some trash indie label at the time. Actual Hip Hop heads loved the album and played it crazy that summer!

You couldn't go anywhere in NYC that summer without hearing people blasting that in whips. The city loved that album when it came out! It wasn't Illmatic-level, but it was still going to be classic.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You can tell who was outside& who wasn't nikkaz who don't call IWW classic are the Vlad Elliot Wilson types