Cormega Giving Props To It Was Written

[Piff Perkins]

Hate to say this but Nas is mentioned because of his era by people from that era. He not consensus anymore breh. Them days long gone

I mentioned that earlier in a reply. I def think the days of it being Big/Pac/Nas/Jay are gone with 18-30 year olds. My point stands though. Assuming you are in your early to mid 30s, why does that generation (and the generation before) hold Nas on a pedestal? That's not off one album. If you were "outside" when IWW came out and weren't stuck on that "bububu the drums aren't boom bap this is heresy" bullshyt, you probably loved IWW. That's just reality. I was still a kid then so that's not my gen. My gen is moreso...the kids who were fighting over Jay v Nas in middle school and high school in 2001. That gen had Nas in their top 3-5 too. And that gen def thinks IWW is a classic overall, and would debate us on Stillmatic.

Point being it's clear the album is a classic in the eyes of many. If you want to say it's not undisputed...ok? But if we want to go that route Vol 2 isn't an undisputed classic either. Jay's undisputed classics are RD and Blueprint. Albums I'd throw in there, like Vol 2 and Black Album, might face an argument depending on who is who. Undisputed to me largely means it's an album the Source gave a 5, or an album we understood the Source fukked up on. Back when the mag meant something at least. Or if it came later, an album where no one has a logical argument against the classic stamp and the influence is undeniable. GKMC, Flokaveli etc.

 

[Funcrusher]

It was ahead of its time though. What other artist who was championed by the underground crossed the lines and unapologetically made a more mainstream sounding album? By 1997, what Nas was doing with IWW was common

This is what bugging me in pretty much every It Was Written thread. Praising going the commercial route because it launched Nas' commercial career. Most artists get flamed for selling out, yet for Nas it was a good move. And then disrespecting Illmatic saying he would still be on 'dusty beats ' if he didn't. I just don't get it.

And all the originality talk must be from that Lupe Fiasco interview back in the day. Always felt like It was Written was a more commercial combo of Cuban Link and the Infamous. High level rapping sure, original no.
I like the album, but the lengths people go to to praise it is just beyond me.

 

[JustCKing]

This is what bugging me in pretty much every It Was Written thread. Praising going the commercial route because it launched Nas' commercial career. Most artists get flamed for selling out, yet for Nas it was a good move. And then disrespecting Illmatic saying he would still be on 'dusty beats ' if he didn't. I just don't get it.

And all the originality talk must be from that Lupe Fiasco interview back in the day. Always felt like It was Written was a more commercial combo of Cuban Link and the Infamous. High level rapping sure, original no.
I like the album, but the lengths people go to to praise it is just beyond me.

Going back and looking at the reasons why people said Nas sold out never made sense. I never saw criticism of "If I Ruled The World" until forums. I knew nobody who did not like that song. Get on forums and people dismissed it largely because it had singing on it. Nas wasn't the first rapper to have a sung hook. I didn't see that same energy towards Biggie for "Juicy" or "One More Chance" or for Meth for "You're All I Need".

It is evident OB4CL and Infamous may have influenced IWW. Throw in Kool G. Rap's 4,5,6. Nas has classic verses on all three albums. So he was giving everyone a preview of where he was going.

 

[Cladyclad]

I mentioned that earlier in a reply. I def think the days of it being Big/Pac/Nas/Jay are gone with 18-30 year olds. My point stands though. Assuming you are in your early to mid 30s, why does that generation (and the generation before) hold Nas on a pedestal? That's not off one album. If you were "outside" when IWW came out and weren't stuck on that "bububu the drums aren't boom bap this is heresy" bullshyt, you probably loved IWW. That's just reality. I was still a kid then so that's not my gen. My gen is moreso...the kids who were fighting over Jay v Nas in middle school and high school in 2001. That gen had Nas in their top 3-5 too. And that gen def thinks IWW is a classic overall, and would debate us on Stillmatic.

Point being it's clear the album is a classic in the eyes of many. If you want to say it's not undisputed...ok? But if we want to go that route Vol 2 isn't an undisputed classic either. Jay's undisputed classics are RD and Blueprint. Albums I'd throw in there, like Vol 2 and Black Album, might face an argument depending on who is who. Undisputed to me largely means it's an album the Source gave a 5, or an album we understood the Source fukked up on. Back when the mag meant something at least. Or if it came later, an album where no one has a logical argument against the classic stamp and the influence is undeniable. GKMC, Flokaveli etc.

the source did neither with this album.

no Nas Stan from sohh was clamoring for it either. This is a phenomenon over the past decade by Nas Stan’s.

it’s a good album. Not classic

its a Nas classic

 

[iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King]

big L 7O.c. already made illmatic pt. 2 shiyet so did AZ!!!
nas made the right move.

It's not so much that they hated IWW (the streets loved IWW); it was more that it wasn't a dusty/backpack type rap, an image that they assigned to Nas and never wanted him to leave.

 

[Piff Perkins]

the source did neither with this album.

no Nas Stan from sohh was clamoring for it either. This is a phenomenon over the past decade by Nas Stan’s.

it’s a good album. Not classic

its a Nas classic

lmao hold on. Now you're claiming nikkas weren't crowning IWW on SOHH? People weren't calling IWW classic before the blog era? Come on man this is ducktales now. Nas was calling it a classic in 97, Queens thought it was a classic, and rap fans outside of "real rap" monks thought the same in the city. Outside the city it was way more accessible than Illmatic. People in the west and south probably fukk with it more than Illmatic. This isn't some new movement. And like I said if this was just Nas stans, why is the opinion so widely shared by rap fans from that generation lol? You still haven't answered that breh. Surely if this dude had one great or classic album he wouldn't be hailed as the GOAT or top 3 in the minds of people of a certain age. I got cousins in their teens and early 20s who don't fukk with Nas outside of Hate Me Now and Oochie Wally. I'm not talking about them.

 

[Cladyclad]

lmao hold on. Now you're claiming nikkas weren't crowning IWW on SOHH? People weren't calling IWW classic before the blog era? Come on man this is ducktales now. Nas was calling it a classic in 97, Queens thought it was a classic, and rap fans outside of "real rap" monks thought the same in the city. Outside the city it was way more accessible than Illmatic. People in the west and south probably fukk with it more than Illmatic. This isn't some new movement. And like I said if this was just Nas stans, why is the opinion so widely shared by rap fans from that generation lol? You still haven't answered that breh. Surely if this dude had one great or classic album he wouldn't be hailed as the GOAT or top 3 in the minds of people of a certain age. I got cousins in their teens and early 20s who don't fukk with Nas outside of Hate Me Now and Oochie Wally. I'm not talking about them.

yall Keep talking this popularity shyt lol. The album had too many mixed reviews to be a classic. The album was disappointing to a lot of people. It’s like I’m in bizarro world. It’s a reason why that takeover line hit. Because that’s how a lot of people felt about Nas albums after illmatic.

nas Stan’s trying their chip tooth hearts out to make this a classic. It’s not. This album is only considered classic to nas Stan’s. yall can’t just accept it’s just a good album with some missteps

 

[Mike Wins]

the source did neither with this album.

Go read The Source review of IWW. They gave it a 4 but the review read like a 4.5 mic verging on instant classic review

When they did the revisionist ratings Nas already had two albums that got 5 mics for real the first time around. He and Columbia ain't have to lobby for retroactive mics or talk about how Illmatic shoulda gone triple, unlike some

 

[Cladyclad]

Go read The Source review of IWW. They gave it a 4 but the review read like a 4.5 mic verging on instant classic review

When they did the revisionist ratings Nas already had two albums that got 5 mics for real the first time around. He and Columbia ain't have to lobby for retroactive mics or talk about how Illmatic shoulda gone triple, unlike some

Even when it’s in y’all face it’s doubt. You sound like a crazy republican. Yea they gave it 4 but it read like 4.5 lol

 

[Piff Perkins]

yall Keep talking this popularity shyt lol. The album had too many mixed reviews to be a classic. The album was disappointing to a lot of people. It’s like I’m in bizarro world. It’s a reason why that takeover line hit. Because that’s how a lot of people felt about Nas albums after illmatic.

nas Stan’s trying their chip tooth hearts out to make this a classic. It’s not. This album is only considered classic to nas Stan’s. yall can’t just accept it’s just a good album with some missteps

Nah. The Jay line bit because his last two albums were I Am and (especially) Nastradamus. Nobody outside of real rap nerds was lamenting IWW as some wack or even disappointing shyt in 2001. If anything they wanted a return to that shyt. Hell lot of people still want that today. And even back then it got a what, 4 in the Source?

You say it's only considered a classic to Nas stans yet can't bridge the issue of why do non-Nas stans have him in their top 3-5, from that era? It's not off one album, because nobody else on the list is based off one album. The streets fukked with that album heavy like it or not, and I'll always cater to their opinion over the Peter Rosenbergs of this thing. I'm done responding tho man. Album a classic, shoulda gone quadruple.

 

[Mike Wins]

Even when it’s in y’all face it’s doubt. You sound like a crazy republican. Yea they gave it 4 but it read like 4.5 lol

LMAO. Yet you'll call RD a classic even though it got similar reviews to IWW when it dropped. Even got the same rating in the Source. Suddenly in that span from 99-01 prior to Blueprint, Jay and his stans started claiming RD was received the same way as RTD or Illmatic. Then these gushing revisionist reviews started coming in.

"But that was different"

Far as being a crazy Republican ain't you a Trump supporter?

 

[Cladyclad]

Nah. The Jay line bit because his last two albums were I Am and (especially) Nastradamus. Nobody outside of real rap nerds was lamenting IWW as some wack or even disappointing shyt in 2001. If anything they wanted a return to that shyt. Hell lot of people still want that today. And even back then it got a what, 4 in the Source?

You say it's only considered a classic to Nas stans yet can't bridge the issue of why do non-Nas stans have him in their top 3-5, from that era? It's not off one album, because nobody else on the list is based off one album. The streets fukked with that album heavy like it or not, and I'll always cater to their opinion over the Peter Rosenbergs of this thing. I'm done responding tho man. Album a classic, shoulda gone quadruple.

Those rap nerds were the same people that made illmatic a classic. I didn’t say the album is wack. What don’t u get. It was a good album. Not a classic.

 

[Cladyclad]

LMAO. Yet you'll call RD a classic even though it got similar reviews to IWW when it dropped. Even got the same rating in the Source. Suddenly in that span from 99-01 prior to Blueprint, Jay and his stans started claiming RD was received the same way as RTD or Illmatic. Then these gushing revisionist reviews started coming in.

"But that was different"

Far as being a crazy Republican ain't you a Trump supporter?

Naw but probably some of your homeys are

 

[spliz]

the source did neither with this album.

no Nas Stan from sohh was clamoring for it either. This is a phenomenon over the past decade by Nas Stan’s.

it’s a good album. Not classic

its a Nas classic

This is pure cap. I tried to keep my opinions out of this thread but this is od.

 

[waynep]

Y'all gotta stop letting this Lakers fan from Detroit troll y'all.. Y'all take the bait every single time.