Copa América 2024 [6/20-7/14] “Coming 2 America” (Final: Argentina/Colombia)

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Cats acting like shyt is hyper expensive here when it's $200 to train your kids years 1-7 with the LA Galaxy camps for 8 classes over the entire summer.

$200 to join a competitive leagues for the Fall and Spring.

Folks acting like it's a crazy ass paywall that'll cost multi-millions of dollars :pachaha:

This is out in LA and Orange County so you know there are cheaper around the country.

That's $400/year to get a good soccer education, training and participation. That's less than $3k total years 1-7, putting your name with the program year-after-year. That's nearly as much as you'll spend on Netflix over the same period of time, so what's the excuse?

You want your kids to be a soccer star you drag them into these camps for the price of some of these streaming services. You don't need some country-wide scaled up marketing or culture shift :deadrose:

If your kids are special, then someone'll notice from there. Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. were special at 8 years old. So if someone's kid sticks out at that point, someone will sponsor them like they do everywhere else.

It's literally a lower to middle class suburbia sport, not some super high class 1% paywall on some :hhh:

So you decide: Netflix, Spotify and Disney Plus or Professional Soccer training. The choice and power is yours, nobody else's.

The defeatism here is crazy :snoop:
 
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With all due respect to you developing those kids is the product we already have so yes we do need to expand our base. We get fourth rate athletes those with 5 million are getting their top athletes. To think it’s only a development problem is ludicrous considering pretty much this entire national team has be developed by the top academies here or sent abroad to top programs

The kids in America aren't being developed properly. Isn't AAU basketball circuit also getting some blame for not developing the HS kids properly compared to their European counterparts? Is it only a football problem or is it a bigger America problem? Cool you can maximise athleticism but what about everything else?

So 209 out of the 210 countries in the Fifa World rankings are getting all the best athletes and America are putting together a motley crew of failed athletes from 5-6 different sports.

Countries like Slovenia and Georgia collection of best athletes aren't all playing football they are skiers ice hockey players cyclists handball rugby players wrestlers combat fighters or weightlifters.

You can have the players trained at Barca Sporting Lisbon PSG academies all you like but when they get back to the NT and being coached by a terrorist with limited football knowledge you arent going to get the best out of the players. And this all goes back to how your American coaches were developed when they were kids/playing the game. So yes it always comes back round to development. Basically the USSF don't like a dirty foreigner coming in and telling them your whole system is shyt and it needs a complete overhaul. You know why they won't like it because they don't like to be dictated too and they wont dismiss their friends/sleeper cells of terrorist and its easier to tell the foreigner to phucks off. We America Phuck Yeah. It takes more than your coach bringing his lunch pail showing passion and proud to be American is enough to win matches at the highest level
 

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The kids in America aren't being developed properly. Isn't AAU basketball circuit also getting some blame for not developing the HS kids properly compared to their European counterparts? Is it only a football problem or is it a bigger America problem? Cool you can maximise athleticism but what about everything else?

So 209 out of the 210 countries in the Fifa World rankings are getting all the best athletes and America are putting together a motley crew of failed athletes from 5-6 different sports.

Countries like Slovenia and Georgia collection of best athletes aren't all playing football they are skiers ice hockey players cyclists handball rugby players wrestlers combat fighters or weightlifters.

You can have the players trained at Barca Sporting Lisbon PSG academies all you like but when they get back to the NT and being coached by a terrorist with limited football knowledge you arent going to get the best out of the players. And this all goes back to how your American coaches were developed when they were kids/playing the game. So yes it always comes back round to development. Basically the USSF don't like a dirty foreigner coming in and telling them your whole system is shyt and it needs a complete overhaul. You know why they won't like it because they don't like to be dictated too and they wont dismiss their friends/sleeper cells of terrorist and its easier to tell the foreigner to phucks off. We America Phuck Yeah. It takes more than your coach bringing his lunch pail showing passion and proud to be American is enough to win matches at the highest level
Well our NT coaching is limited because we can’t pay a coach more than we pay the womens coach. And that’s just idiots upset that European players are good America still develops the Best basketball players in the world we won an Olympic medal with like the d team. Also first you said it was about developing then when I said we develop these guys now you saying it don’t matter that they go get developed like pick one either they aren’t developed or they are
 

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so other countries are developing their top players in professional academies and all american kids need is a ball and a 5x5 space to master the ball and they'll be alright.
Exactly they aren’t being serious because they said we don’t develop now it’s we just need a ball and some space that’s why we not good like what?
 

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Exactly they aren’t being serious because they said we don’t develop now it’s we just need a ball and some space that’s why we not good like what?
those drills are great and all and even the kids in academies are doing shyt at home in their free time to get better, but it's not an alternative to proper development.
 

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those drills are great and all and even the kids in academies are doing shyt at home in their free time to get better, but it's not an alternative to proper development.
I totally agree. I got his point that kids like internationally play soccer a lot or whatever but my whole argument was they have a culture for that we don’t like even our academies are lacking here because the best ones either cost a lot or the mls ones that are free have limited spots. In Brazil or Argentina for example they have like a billion academies then those feed up to the bigger ones and then Europe come pluck from those we have none of that
 

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Y'all not sick and tired of the nonsense for 20 pages now? We have more than enough players in this country for every sport. The team is regressing bad and it's clear that it lies with Berhalter and the administration that won't let him go.
 

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Stop with the excuses man.







Do people not have 5 feet of room to themselves now to practice day and night?

Like I get the aspect of team play, but it also comes down to how much people practice on individual levels.

You don't need world class facilities. You have the internet and a soccer ball. You can work on your game plenty just like kids out there with less doing it.

There are some kids out there right now who are going to make it and have made it because of the drills they got on the internet.

Like people bringing up marketing and shyt, come on.

You work on skills, get them right and show up to play somewhere and connections will start forming.


None of those kids were practicing on overgrown public fields with half flat balls and no proper equipment. Again...you're proving my point. Explain to me how you work on positioning without 10 other kids at least? How you know how to set an offsides trap without defensive lines? How to properly shoot when no one tells you how?

https://fb.watch/t42uNkqQmv/ remember the Receba kid?
Guess what...he's not playing for a major team...not even a B team. He's playing 7 a side for Gremio, and even that's mostly because of being a social media star. Why? Because you don't learn technical ability and tactics playing on fukking dirt lots.


You basically are saying we can "we got McDonalds at home" our way through youth sports development. fukk outa here. :russ:

so other countries are developing their top players in professional academies and all american kids need is a ball and a 5x5 space to master the ball and they'll be alright.

It's insane. Entire academies dedicated to developing world class talent has brought Spain and France world cups within the last 15 years but nah, America just need to watch YouTube. FOH.

Cats acting like shyt is hyper expensive here when it's $200 to train your kids 1-7 with the LA Galaxy camps.

$200 to join a competitive leagues for the Fall and Spring. It'll add up over time, but folks acting like it's a crazy ass paywall that'll cost multi-millions of dollars.

This is out in LA and Orange County so you know there are cheaper around the country. You can put away $1k for about 5-6 sessions every Summer if you save about $100/month for a camp.

You know you can go to these camps, learn the drills with your kids build a relationship with your kid and practice with them. Then pay $200 for the league to let them work on their game vs competition.

If your kids are special, then someone'll notice from there. Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. were special at 8 years old. So if someone's kid sticks out at that point, someone will sponsor them like they do everywhere else.

The defeatism :snoop:

And the kids that SHOULD play the sport don't have parent's that even have that. Even on top of that, that's to join a one-time seasonal league. Elite level kids are playing all year round and no there's not a sponsor apparatus in the US because there's no academies in the US of any import. So all a sponsor is gonna do is get them to a level to play in college. By that time they are already behind. Why the fukk do you think all of the top USMNT players (Robinson, Weah, Balogun, Reyna, McKennie, Ream, Pulisic, Dest, and more) were all shipped off to Europe as teens?


But it's cool, next time we want to develop the next Jordan, we'll tell him to just watch YouTube.
 

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None of those kids were practicing on overgrown public fields with half flat balls and no proper equipment. Again...you're proving my point. Explain to me how you work on positioning without 10 other kids at least? How you know how to set an offsides trap without defensive lines? How to properly shoot when no one tells you how?

https://fb.watch/t42uNkqQmv/ remember the Receba kid?
Guess what...he's not playing for a major team...not even a B team. He's playing 7 a side for Gremio, and even that's mostly because of being a social media star. Why? Because you don't learn technical ability and tactics playing on fukking dirt lots.


You basically are saying we can "we got McDonalds at home" our way through youth sports development. fukk outa here. :russ:



It's insane. Entire academies dedicated to developing world class talent has brought Spain and France world cups within the last 15 years but nah, America just need to watch YouTube. FOH.



And the kids that SHOULD play the sport don't have parent's that even have that. Even on top of that, that's to join a one-time seasonal league. Elite level kids are playing all year round and no there's not a sponsor apparatus in the US because there's no academies in the US of any import. So all a sponsor is gonna do is get them to a level to play in college. By that time they are already behind. Why the fukk do you think all of the top USMNT players (Robinson, Weah, Balogun, Reyna, McKennie, Ream, Pulisic, Dest, and more) were all shipped off to Europe as teens?


But it's cool, next time we want to develop the next Jordan, we'll tell him to just watch YouTube.

Sports has always had a cost. This ain't nothing new. You acting like developing elite soccer talent is reserved for people living in mansions though, it's not.

A lot of kids from lower suburbs are in leagues and making names. Yeah, maybe not poverty-level, but that's the price of living in the States and for choosing to stay here.

I'd say if you can't afford saving $40 a month for a soccer camp, you probably SHOULD re-focus your priorities anyways. I'd take that money and dump it on something more reliable like education instead. Has nobody learned yet that chasing hoop dreams when you're down bad like that in America ain't the move?

This is basically wanting it to be one way.

Sad to say, but people are free to up and leave to try it somewhere else in another country for cheaper if they want it that bad. Some people from other parts of the world actually do do that for their kids.
 
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Cats acting like shyt is hyper expensive here when it's $200 to train your kids years 1-7 with the LA Galaxy camps for 8 classes over the entire summer.

$200 to join a competitive leagues for the Fall and Spring.

Folks acting like it's a crazy ass paywall that'll cost multi-millions of dollars :pachaha:

This is out in LA and Orange County so you know there are cheaper around the country.

That's $400/year to get a good soccer education, training and participation. That's less than $3k total years 1-7, putting your name with the program year-after-year. That's nearly as much as you'll spend on Netflix over the same period of time, so what's the excuse?

You want your kids to be a soccer star you drag them into these camps for the price of some of these streaming services. You don't need some country-wide scaled up marketing or culture shift :deadrose:

If your kids are special, then someone'll notice from there. Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. were special at 8 years old. So if someone's kid sticks out at that point, someone will sponsor them like they do everywhere else.

It's literally a lower to middle class suburbia sport, not some super high class 1% paywall on some :hhh:

So you decide: Netflix, Spotify and Disney Plus or Professional Soccer training. The choice and power is yours, nobody else's.

The defeatism here is crazy :snoop:
Its not just the price but the quality of these soccer camps. US has a shyt youth program. A "decent" one will cost more then the shytty LA galaxy experience
 
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