Copa América 2024 [6/20-7/14] “Coming 2 America” (Final: Argentina/Colombia)

[Gilver]

This will be forgotten by the majority of the American public in 24 hours. You fat crackers will be slitting your wrists and punching your wives after you fail to win a trophy for the 70th straight year.

We'd have beaten Panama though.


BUMS.

NBA ran by Europeans, no one cares about the NFL. What does america have left? Baseball? Oh wait...

Wow, truly the P4P WOAT sporting nation.

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

How can you have countries like Uruguay, who literally have 1% of the population that the US has, and you cant find 25 good soccer players to put a good product on the field?
US mens soccer has been an embarassment for years. All these soccer academies and they cant win a damn thing.

The same way the Dominican Republic produces a massive amount of world class baseball players from a tiny island compared to the USA.

It's a culture that's embedded into the country, the Uruguayan players know the financial possibilities of leaving for Europe so they break their backs to be the best they can, same way Juan Soto busted his ass and went to 50 tryouts before he was signed, trained everyday in broken down fields with no league in the country, but before that growing up the only sport he knew was baseball, and they know the only way off the island is to get signed.

That narrative, "why can't the US find 25 good players" has been floating around the internet for decades now, and it's not that simple to "just find" some players in the streets of L.A. The US will produce world class players when the game itself is embedded into American culture.

 

[JDH]

Steel sharpen steel

it's all good beating up on countries like Trinidad & Tobago and Barbados but the inexperience shows when it's crunch time

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

Steel sharpen steel

it's all good beating up on countries like Trinidad & Tobago and Barbados but the inexperience shows when it's crunch time

I'm not a Klinsmann fanboy, and I ripped him apart on another forum years ago.
But he told the US federation a lot of truths they don't wanna hear.
The nations league is nice to beat Mexico in the final, but outside of that there is zero value in that competition for the US.

 

[Mister Terrific]

We'd have beaten Panama though.


BUMS.

NBA ran by Europeans, no one cares about the NFL. What does america have left? Baseball? Oh wait...

Wow, truly the P4P WOAT sporting nation.

You couldn’t beat us The only reason Berhalter had a job because people were fooled into thinking a good performance against you bums meant something. Europeans run the NBA? What is the ethnic makeup of the Boston Celtics

The only thing you fat pale snaggletooth fukks are good at are having p4p the ugliest people on the planet.

 

[Gilver]

You couldn’t beat us The only reason Berhalter had a job because people were fooled into thinking a good performance against you bums meant something. Europeans run the NBA? What is the ethnic makeup of the Boston Celtics

The only thing you fat pale snaggletooth fukks are good at are having p4p the ugliest people on the planet.

This is just sad. Very sad.

A black man caping for the red white and blue. Is this what the coli is now?

 

[charknicks]

The same way the Dominican Republic produces a massive amount of world class baseball players from a tiny island compared to the USA.

It's a culture that's embedded into the country, the Uruguayan players know the financial possibilities of leaving for Europe so they break their backs to be the best they can, same way Juan Soto busted his ass and went to 50 tryouts before he was signed, trained everyday in broken down fields with no league in the country, but before that growing up the only sport he knew was baseball, and they know the only way off the island is to get signed.

That narrative, "why can't the US find 25 good players" has been floating around the internet for decades now, and it's not that simple to "just find" some players in the streets of L.A. The US will produce world class players when the game itself is embedded into American culture.

I hear all of this. But I see that as far as the youth go, the game is embedded in the culture, and is more and more into the culture every day. Again, there are youth leagues everywhere. There are multiple levels of 'professional' soccer leagues. There are people who fill these stadiums week in and week out to support these players. Obviously, there has to be a culture in order to have people play.

No one said just 'find' players, but just like your quote about the DR and baseball, that can be culture, but they have academies that specialize in baseball. There are academies that specialize here in soccer. So whats the difference?

Eastern Europeans (Serbia, Yugoslavia, etc), didnt have a culture for basketball, and now they are producing top NBA stars. France didnt have a culture for basketball, and now 3 of the top 6 in the draft just came from there, as well as the #1 star from last draft. Where is that French 'culture'?

Its just excuses at this point

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Eastern Europeans (Serbia, Yugoslavia, etc), didnt have a culture for basketball, and now they are producing top NBA stars.

 

[Gilver]

I hear all of this. But I see that as far as the youth go, the game is embedded in the culture, and is more and more into the culture every day. Again, there are youth leagues everywhere. There are multiple levels of 'professional' soccer leagues. There are people who fill these stadiums week in and week out to support these players. Obviously, there has to be a culture in order to have people play.

No one said just 'find' players, but just like your quote about the DR and baseball, that can be culture, but they have academies that specialize in baseball. There are academies that specialize here in soccer. So whats the difference?

Eastern Europeans (Serbia, Yugoslavia, etc), didnt have a culture for basketball, and now they are producing top NBA stars. France didnt have a culture for basketball, and now 3 of the top 6 in the draft just came from there, as well as the #1 star from last draft. Where is that French 'culture'?

Its just excuses at this point

Have you considered that it's because Americans aren't athletic enough to play soccer?

They think former Yugoslavian states are in Siberia.

 

[charknicks]

You are going to the 90s (Drazen Petrovic, Toni Kukoc), and they were fringe All Stars. Great players, but not all-NBA. Now, they have developed all-NBA players like Jokic and Doncic.

The US has been playing soccer since the 50s, and never had a top star. Who is the best US player ever? How close to all-world type team was he? Thats the point/comparison

 

[charknicks]

Have you considered that it's because Americans aren't athletic enough to play soccer?

Interesting. So then I'm asking why is this? 'Americans' are athletic enough for basketball, baseball, track, all other sports but soccer, no one in America is good enough. Why is that?

 

[Bigwhite2498]

This will be forgotten by the majority of the American public in 24 hours. You fat crackers will be slitting your wrists and punching your wives after you fail to win a trophy for the 70th straight year.

Are you Haitian lmao

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

You are going to the 90s (Drazen Petrovic, Toni Kukoc), and they were fringe All Stars. Great players, but not all-NBA. Now, they have developed all-NBA players like Jokic and Doncic.

The US has been playing soccer since the 50s, and never had a top star. Who is the best US player ever? How close to all-world type team was he? Thats the point/comparison

So this isn't basketball culture?

 

[Gilver]

Interesting. So then I'm asking why is this? 'Americans' are athletic enough for basketball, baseball, track, all other sports but soccer, no one in America is good enough. Why is that?

Those sports are far less athletic than soccer. The only requirement of being a good basketball player is being tall, for example.

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

You are going to the 90s (Drazen Petrovic, Toni Kukoc), and they were fringe All Stars. Great players, but not all-NBA. Now, they have developed all-NBA players like Jokic and Doncic.

The US has been playing soccer since the 50s, and never had a top star. Who is the best US player ever? How close to all-world type team was he? Thats the point/comparison

Eh, not exactly. Even Joe Gaetjens who scored against England in 1950 was Haitian.
The US didnt' start to take the game serious right up until 1989 or so when they were pushing to qualify for Italia 90.
I suggest the documentary 'The One Billion Dollar Goal' on Paramount to get an idea of how lost the USA was in terms of the sport from 1950 - 1989