Cook-Out Vs. D!ck's Drive-In: NFL Divisional Round - #4 Panthers @ #1 Seahawks 8pm

Who wins this NFC Divisional Round??

  • Carolina Panthers

    Votes: 47 37.9%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 77 62.1%

  • Total voters
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Labadi_Mantse

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Josh Freeman has finished top 10 in TDs too. That make him above average too.

Who's moving the goal posts now? Is it about passing stats or about rings or winning seasons? Which one?

You have hung your whole hat on top 10 or top 15 passing stats and then DIRECTLY contradict yourself.

Top 10 finishes
Cam: 2 in 4 years
Flacco: 1 in 8 years

Not to mention since 2011 (time both have spent in the league) Cam has finished ahead of Flacco most passing categories.

But I look forward to hearing why passing stats don't matter now and how it's really about ___________. :mjlol:

You claim you are all about the FACTS but when them FACTS don't support your argument you reverting back to bullshyt without context.


Prove Cam isn't average with stats? Prove Flacco is better than him with STATS. (and team records are NOT player stats)


Breh stop deviating from the original argument. This is about cam being an average qb. Flacco is average too. Hes just better than cam and most nfl teams would take flacco before cam. Freeman was average as well. All that shyt is irrelevant and it is deflection. Go back to the first posts that began this discussion. I have maintained that cam is averagr. Discuss that. You tried to do this with Steve Smith. Now you're taking about Joe Flacco. I don't really care about either. They were brought up in the context of the argument they are not what it is about move on. This about cam. Again, back to the original point, prove cam hasn't been average based on stats and winning percentage.
 

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Breh stop deviating from the original argument. This is about cam being an average qb. Flacco is average too. Hes just better than cam and most nfl teams would take flacco before cam. Freeman was average as well. All that shyt is irrelevant and it is deflection. Go back to the first posts that began this discussion. I have maintained that cam is averagr. Discuss that. You tried to do this with Steve Smith. Now you're taking about Joe Flacco. I don't really care about either. They were brought up in the context of the argument they are not what it is about move on. This about cam. Again, back to the original point, prove cam hasn't been average based on stats and winning percentage.

Naw.. what people like yourself fail to realize is that credibility is important, context is important. When those 2 are lost, there is no discussion. Just meaningless words strung together. That's is what your posts are right now. Meaningless garbage.

You can't say a nikka is average because of X then say another QB is better than him based on a direct contradiction of your first point. It blows your whole logic to shreds. There is no logic to your point, thus nothing to address. How do you not get this?
 

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Panthers and Scumbag Smitty both out of the playoffs. Wot a day :blessed:

Shout out to @portcityplaya and @AVXL for hating on the Kitties while I was at work.

Rich Sherman did it for Founder's Day GOMAB :salute:

Rally's >>>>> Cookout ya bish :pacspit:

i wasn't even hatin on the cats. knew cam would play like the nonreadin qb he is :youngsabo:
 

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Naw.. what people like yourself fail to realize is that credibility is important, context is important. When those 2 are lost, there is no discussion. Just meaningless words strung together. That's is what your posts are right now. Meaningless garbage.

You can't say a nikka is average because of X then say another QB is better than him based on a direct contradiction of your first point. It blows your whole logic to shreds. There is no logic to your point, thus nothing to address. How do you not get this?
I was actually marveling at how quickly Cam is average and XYZ QB is better because whatever receiver is doing turned into "I don't care about these things because I've been proven wrong, prove Cam isn't average".
 

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Naw.. what people like yourself fail to realize is that credibility is important, context is important. When those 2 are lost, there is no discussion. Just meaningless words strung together. That's is what your posts are right now. Meaningless garbage.

You can't say a nikka is average because of X then say another QB is better than him based on a direct contradiction of your first point. It blows your whole logic to shreds. There is no logic to your point, thus nothing to address. How do you not get this?

Is cam average or not? I contend that he is. His stats prove that he is a middle of the road QB. his career winning percentage isn't great either. We can talk about weapons and context but fact is there are plenty of qbs with their own personal handicaps who perform better than cam regularly whether it be statistically or by number of games won. Flacco happens to be one of those guys. Again, no one that knows football is taking cam over Flacco if they are building a team and want a proven winning qb. U can't argue against that
 

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I was actually marveling at how quickly Cam is average and XYZ QB is better because whatever receiver is doing turned into "I don't care about these things because I've been proven wrong, prove Cam isn't average".

Is cam average or not?
 

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No, prove that he is.

He has finished in the middle of the pack statistically throughout his career. His winning percentage as well. Furthermore there is no way you argue he is a top 10 qb. Manning Brees Brady rivers Rodgers Roethlisberger Wilson luck Romo are all better than him and arguments can be made for second tier guys like Matt ryan, Carson palmer and Matt Stafford. There are 32 staring qbs. You can't be number 12 or 13 and be considered anything but average. You are middle of the pack
 

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No you illterate dog shyt, I was saying Cam is inferior to Russell and Luck in that department. Damn, I know your life ain't amount to shyt if you couldn't read that simple sentence.
:mjlol: Are really saying Wilson is a inferior decision maker compared to luck. Take this neg fukkboi
 

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I'd definitely take him at this point over Eli and Ryan, maybe Palmer and Stafford too. I'd put him at like 10th when he's at his best
He has finished in the middle of the pack statistically throughout his career. His winning percentage as well. Furthermore there is no way you argue he is a top 10 qb. Manning Brees Brady rivers Rodgers Roethlisberger Wilson luck Romo are all better than him and arguments can be made for second tier guys like Matt ryan, Carson palmer and Matt Stafford. There are 32 staring qbs. You can't be number 12 or 13 and be considered anything but average. You are middle of the pack
 

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I'd definitely take him at this point over Eli and Ryan, maybe Palmer and Stafford too. I'd put him at like 10th when he's at his best

Based on what? You can't put someone in the top ten that's not even finishing there in passing statistics which are the barometer for a qbs effectiveness. That doesn't make sense. The ten guys I listed are at the top year in and year out across the board in passing categories. Cam has never been there save for once. How can u include him with those ten?
 
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