Conway the Machine - La Maquina (Discussion Thread)

[Cladyclad]

I never understood this logic...nobody forcing you to listen to the joint when it drops, b

Listen to it when you feel like it.

It waters down the music man.

I love pizza but I don’t want to eat it everyday. Giving this much music shyt goes in one ear and out the other. I’m 100% certain if I name tracks the biggest GR fan could not 100% say for sure which tape it belonged to.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

It waters down the music man.

I love pizza but I don’t want to eat it everyday. Giving this much music shyt goes in one ear and out the other. I’m 100% certain if I name tracks the biggest GR fan could not 100% say for sure which tape it belonged to.

I’m caping a little bit, but I think the pandemic has played a role in more artists over releasing. 2020 was a rough year and it’s still hard to tour. I think a lot more artists are dropping more projects out of necessity to help themselves financially. Everyone is releasing a little too frequently for my taste.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I'm guessing we don't get that Shady album until summer?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I'm guessing we don't get that Shady album until summer?

Yeah, summer. Which is kind of weird because it’s definitely got a fall/winter vibe to it. Lot of introspective songs. But based on his IG comments to people asking about it on the new La Maquina posts, he’s apologizing for keeping people waiting, and is saying he doesn’t want to keep extending the wait.

It’s fully mixed and mastered though. Artwork done. I’d say mid-June to early-August would be my guess. But obviously I could be wrong.

And interestingly, he called King to a God an album and he’s calling La Maquina an actual album too, and not just a mixtape or a project.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Yeah, summer. Which is kind of weird because it’s definitely got a fall/winter vibe to it. Lot of introspective songs. But based on his IG comments to people asking about it on the new La Maquina posts, he’s apologizing for keeping people waiting, and is saying he doesn’t want to keep extending the wait.

It’s fully mixed and mastered though. Artwork done. I’d say mid-June to early-August would be my guess. But obviously I could be wrong.

And interestingly, he called King to a God an album and he’s calling La Maquina an actual album too, and not just a mixtape or a project.

He calls everything an album which muddies his other works as a result.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

He calls everything an album which muddies his other works as a result.

I thought it was the opposite and he just called everything a project or a tape. But I could be wrong. I know he called the food series all tapes, and both of the big ghost releases tapes.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Yeah, summer. Which is kind of weird because it’s definitely got a fall/winter vibe to it. Lot of introspective songs. But based on his IG comments to people asking about it on the new La Maquina posts, he’s apologizing for keeping people waiting, and is saying he doesn’t want to keep extending the wait.

It’s fully mixed and mastered though. Artwork done. I’d say mid-June to early-August would be my guess. But obviously I could be wrong.

And interestingly, he called King to a God an album and he’s calling La Maquina an actual album too, and not just a mixtape or a project.

All good to me, FKTG was one of my favorite projects last year. I can wait

 

[Khadafi1982]

I thought it was the opposite and he just called everything a project or a tape. But I could be wrong. I know he called the food series all tapes, and both of the big ghost releases tapes.

That is how you see that the word album still carries weight for people that grew in the previous era. Naming his albums projects or tapes relieves him of a psychological pressure to sell (real or unreal). His haters will point to low sales and consider it a flop. Nobody will questions sales figures for a mixtape and project. Styles P released four albums in the past 4 years but called them projects, he will never sells as in the 2000's and he knows it;

 

[mozichrome]

album/tape/project does it matter?

its not like breh out here freestyling over already established beats
these are projects with all original sounding joints
i honestly dont see point in that discussion

also the whole they release too much discussion, like u can choose not to listen at any point

 

[Funcrusher]

If it's good it's good. I'm actually intrigued by artists that record so much, basically all thoughts and ideas they have, and make it work musically. That's why Fahim is one of my favorite mc's.

 

[Rell Lauren]

album/tape/project does it matter?

its not like breh out here freestyling over already established beats
these are projects with all original sounding joints
i honestly dont see point in that discussion

also the whole they release too much discussion, like u can choose not to listen at any point

To me it does. The album is supposed to be a culmination of work. Example being Green Lantern and Nas' Nigg(er) Tape. It was a bunch of loose cuts that had an overarching theme but was the appetizer for the fully fleshed out album that explored it more. Production was tighter, etc.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Streets needed this! I’m gonna check this out for sure & obviously can’t wait for GDMM

 

[hex]

In.

Fred.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Joint is aight. I’m kind of at a point with Conway that I just don’t think he makes albums with heavy replay value. I hope GDMM is the one classic he’s got in the chamber but I won’t hold my breath. And Conway has A LOT of material that I fukk with HEAVY. It’s almost like he’s this generations Method Man. Just absolutely destroys every feature and has many classic verses but his solo albums just don’t hit like that!

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Joint is aight. I’m kind of at a point with Conway that I just don’t think he makes albums with heavy replay value. I hope GDMM is the one classic he’s got in the chamber but I won’t hold my breath. And Conway has A LOT of material that I fukk with HEAVY. It’s almost like he’s this generations Method Man. Just absolutely destroys every feature and has many classic verses but his solo albums just don’t hit like that!

I may be in the minority here among long time Griselda fans, but I prefer his new work. Reject 2, GOAT, Blakk Tape, etc. I definitely liked those, but like you said, I don't revisit them very much. I think in that period he cranked out so many joints with Daringer that were mostly interchangeable. And I'm wasn't even mad at that. But I had to be in the mood to listen.

A big reason I've gone from just thinking he's just a dope emcee to thinking he's got potential as a serious artist has been since Covid-19, and hearing the growth in subject matter, expanded production, etc. It's weird to think that someone with so much music out could be just finding their artistic footing. But I think he's actually poised to become an interesting artist if he stays on the path he's on. I'd really like to see him develop a stronger hook game without relying on doing the 50 Cent thing or using Jae Skeese.

I'm ready for a lot of these songs he's previewed to drop, because almost all of them I like better as songs than a lot of his older material. From King to a God is definitely his most well rounded album with the most replayability.