Evil Grandson
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it's very much an issue. Hella songs are dropped on albums then taken off now. Artists don't know how to clear things the way nikkas did in the past + labels being picky with shyt.
Conway the Machine - God Don't Make Mistakes (Discussion Thread)
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Heavy_Handz
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It just doesn’t make sense that a major label can’t clear samples when throughout history millions of samples have been cleared in order for classic albums to be released.
TheDarceKnight
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There's a few problems now.
Back then record sales generated enough money to warrant it. In the streaming era, albums don't really make any money. Albums are basically promotional vehicles to sell merch and to advertise for touring.
Back when people used to buy physical CDs, millions of dollars were made on hip-hop album sales alone. That's not the case now at all. The budgets simply aren't there to warrant it. Not only that, but many of the artists on major labels these days don't use very many samples. A lot of popular beats today are trap beats that don't use samples.
A final factor that may make it seem weird is you must be thinking, "but all of these indie releases have samples on them, so if they can have them...why can't major label albums have samples?"
Good question...the not-so-secret secret is that 90% of the samples you hear on independent hip-hop releases aren't cleared at all. Most of the music we bump is vulnerable to cease and desist letters. It's a big reason why purists hate WhoSampled and the Alternate Intro craze.
BK The Great
Veteran
Conway seemed positive in the HOT 97 interview.
TheDarceKnight
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Artists often just don't even clear them breh. So little money is made off of streaming music that a lot of people who have been sampled know they've been sampled but know that it would take too much time to sue over it, and there's not even much money to recover.
You need about 300 streams to make just 1 dollar as an artist. So if some singer from the 70's finds out that a Griselda artist sampled them and got 10,000 streams or whatever, is it really worth suing over 450 dollars?
So a lot of times they just say fukk it and stay quiet and don't make a fuss, or they send a cease and desist letter to get the song removed from streaming.
It often costs more to clear a sample than the final song would ever generate in revenue from streaming.
TheDarceKnight
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I agree. Matter fact I generally hate the idea of having any features on your opening song. My favorite intros of all time are ones where it's just the main artist.
The main exception is the other way where you get some left-field situations where they have someone else do the intro entirely. That shyt is experimental and ballsy and I fukk with it.
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
I agree. Matter fact I generally hate the idea of having any features on your opening song. My favorite intros of all time are ones where it's just the main artist.
The main exception is the other way where you get some left-field situations where they have someone else do the intro entirely. That shyt is experimental and ballsy and I fukk with it.
Benny & Conway need to spit on this beat for Benny’s Def Jam debut
This beat too
Just an album full of dope beats that didn’t really get rapper on before
About the Sigel feature on the opener: yeah generally I'd go with a solo song up front, but to me this one kind of hits different because it's two rappers whose vocal style has been seriously transformed by getting shot. It feels like it puts things in perspective right at the beginning and sets the stage for how personal and dark the record is going to get
TheDarceKnight
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I didn't really think about it that way. Good point. You may have just made me like it more. BTW they recorded a lot more together apparently, and I hope they drop a little EP or something.
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
One more @TheDarceKnight !! Imagine Conway spitting over the Intro beat to Jewelz! That shyt would be crazy i might be on to something
Dope take, adds an extra perspective to the song
Guilty…man that beat is beautiful, gives me 2002 Roc-A-Fella vibes
GollyImGully
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man i really cant believe the schoolboy q song didnt make it
TheDarceKnight
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One more @TheDarceKnight !! Imagine Conway spitting over the Intro beat to Jewelz! That shyt would be crazy i might be on to something
This is a dope idea.
Have you noticed Alchemist is starting to give some of his old interludes to rappers right now for new songs? He did it on the most recent Boldy James and Currensy projects. I know it's not the same as what you're talking about but it reminded me of it.
TheDarceKnight
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man i really cant believe the schoolboy q song didnt make it
Apparently that song belongs to Q and it's not Conway's to do anything with.I'll try to find this article/interview for you. Conway said they recorded Fork in the Pot and Kilo in the Trunk on the same day. Fork was given to him and Kilo was given to Q.