Conway the Machine - God Don't Make Mistakes (Discussion Thread)

[BK The Great]

• Not out yet but there’s the link

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I love the fact we’re witnessing Conway grow as an artist, and I also miss that Reject 2 sound which Daringer definitely brought back on the album…he spitting about some real life shyt and getting more in depth with how being famous interferes with his life

I'm way more interested in this Conway here than Reject/GOAT/Blakk Tape/Food Conway. I mean I'm sure he'll be back to shooting everyone and their family on his next tape with Big Ghost, and I'm sure Lulu 2 will have a few gritty joints on it.

But for the most part, if I wanna hear the old stick talk and brick talk Conway, I'm gonna go back to those old projects. I think this new era of him wrestling with fame, notoriety, where he stands amongst his peers as an emcee, trying to stay sober, opening up about his family life, contemplating spirituality and the meaning of life...all of these things are way more interesting to me than hearing him talk about shooting everybody. He's good at it but I don't want it to be his main bag.

Conway's an elite emcee and it'd be a shame if all of that skill was lost on just talking about dope and guns forever.

 

[Dump Gawd]

The way Conway talks about pain is on another level

bars be hitting your soul gotta listen again but man he's been saying some shyt that have you questioning shyt in life

he's been thru a lot this album is really an amazing listen

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Why is this not pinned yet

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I'm way more interested in this Conway here than Reject/GOAT/Blakk Tape/Food Conway. I mean I'm sure he'll be back to shooting everyone and their family on his next tape with Big Ghost, and I'm sure Lulu 2 will have a few gritty joints on it.

But for the most part, if I wanna hear the old stick talk and brick talk Conway, I'm gonna go back to those old projects. I think this new era of him wrestling with fame, notoriety, where he stands amongst his peers as an emcee, trying to stay sober, opening up about his family life, contemplating spirituality and the meaning of life...all of these things are way more interesting to me than hearing him talk about shooting everybody. He's good at it but I don't want it to be his main bag.

Conway's an elite emcee and it'd be a shame if all of that skill was lost on just talking about dope and guns forever.

It seems like him deciding to be more open about his life has made his pen game a lot stronger, you can see it on songs like Guilty, Stressed, and God Don’t Make Mistakes those are some next level Conway songs

 

[Corndog]

Yeah this album is crazy, Conway is really writing on this record. I can't believe he managed to actually release this on Shady of all places

 

[TheDarceKnight]

It seems like him deciding to be more open about his life has made his pen game a lot stronger, you can see it on songs like Guilty, Stressed, and God Don’t Make Mistakes those are some next level Conway songs

What'd you think about So Much More?

IMO those 4 songs are honestly 4 of the best in his entire catalogue.

There are actually a few spots in this album that may need to grow on me (the Sigel verse, the Novel hook, Drumwork, and Babas) but those 4 best songs on here are legit a perfect example of why I fell in love with hip-hop to begin with.

If Anderson .Paak had stayed on Wild Chapters instead of Novel and T.I. had been replaced with another Conway verse in the same vein of the first verse, I'd throw that in there as an arguable top 10 song of Con's career too. There's a video somewhere on YouTube where you can hear Anderson .Paak's part on Wild Chapters but I'm not sure where it is.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

The way Conway talks about pain is on another level

bars be hitting your soul gotta listen again but man he's been saying some shyt that have you questioning shyt in life

he's been thru a lot this album is really an amazing listen

You catch the bar on the title track where he said

I walked out that hospital twice/
My mother said I died both times, guess I did the impossible twice

I'm guessing that means he had health complications when he was born?

Why is this not pinned yet

I'm guessing they're waiting until midnight? Good question

 

[savoutch]

I'm on my first listen... Amazing. Perfect LP.

 

[BK The Great]

 

[BK The Great]

 

[TheDarceKnight]

The part where he talks about delays being due to sample clearances reminds me of a rumor I heard last month. This could totally go either way, so I'm not standing behind this. It's not a source I know personally.

But I heard that when they all signed their deals at Shady, that Conway was the first to start working on his album, and apparently there was a situation where Conway misinterpreted (via his A&R at Shady) that he was fine to proceed with using all the samples he wanted to. So he made an album full of samples and found out later that it was a problem, and what we ended up with is an album with only about 20% samples on it.

This kind of makes sense hearing him in this interview say they had to go back and replay a lot of the samples on here. It also makes sense why on WWCD and WMTSS that they just knew ahead of time to avoid the headache by just using Beat Butcha and Daringer on everything to not even try and sample.

@Piff Perkins is that believable to your A&R ears? He also says in this interview above that some of the co-producers that had to come in and recompose some of the music didn't agree on some of the percentages and contracts, and that was a hold up as well.

@areohbee824 tagging you too

 

[BK The Great]

The part where he talks about delays being due to sample clearances reminds me of a rumor I heard last month. This could totally go either way, so I'm not standing behind this. It's not a source I know personally.

But I heard that when they all signed their deals at Shady, that Conway was the first to start working on his album, and apparently there was a situation where Conway misinterpreted (via his A&R at Shady) that he was fine to proceed with using all the samples he wanted to. So he made an album full of samples and found out later that it was a problem, and what we ended up with is an album with only about 20% samples on it.

This kind of makes sense hearing him in this interview say they had to go back and replay a lot of the samples on here. It also makes sense why on WWCD and WMTSS that they just knew ahead of time to avoid the headache by just using Beat Butcha and Daringer on everything to not even try and sample.

@Piff Perkins is that believable to your A&R ears? He also says in this interview above that some of the co-producers that had to come in and recompose some of the music didn't agree on some of the percentages and contracts, and that was a hold up as well.

@areohbee824 tagging you too

Watching the interview now

 

[Heavy_Handz]

The part where he talks about delays being due to sample clearances reminds me of a rumor I heard last month. This could totally go either way, so I'm not standing behind this. It's not a source I know personally.

But I heard that when they all signed their deals at Shady, that Conway was the first to start working on his album, and apparently there was a situation where Conway misinterpreted (via his A&R at Shady) that he was fine to proceed with using all the samples he wanted to. So he made an album full of samples and found out later that it was a problem, and what we ended up with is an album with only about 20% samples on it.

This kind of makes sense hearing him in this interview say they had to go back and replay a lot of the samples on here. It also makes sense why on WWCD and WMTSS that they just knew ahead of time to avoid the headache by just using Beat Butcha and Daringer on everything to not even try and sample.

@Piff Perkins is that believable to your A&R ears? He also says in this interview above that some of the co-producers that had to come in and recompose some of the music didn't agree on some of the percentages and contracts, and that was a hold up as well.

@areohbee824 tagging you too

Since when did clearing samples become such a problem for record labels? Didn’t Kanye West have hits for years using samples? Doesn’t nearly every album from the golden era have multiple cleared samples throughout every album?

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

What'd you think about So Much More?

IMO those 4 songs are honestly 4 of the best in his entire catalogue.

There are actually a few spots in this album that may need to grow on me (the Sigel verse, the Novel hook, Drumwork, and Babas) but those 4 best songs on here are legit a perfect example of why I fell in love with hip-hop to begin with.

If Anderson .Paak had stayed on Wild Chapters instead of Novel and T.I. had been replaced with another Conway verse in the same vein of the first verse, I'd throw that in there as an arguable top 10 song of Con's career too. There's a video somewhere on YouTube where you can hear Anderson .Paak's part on Wild Chapters but I'm not sure where it is.

I’m still trying to get used to hearing Conway on the Justice League mainstream type beats, I liked it but it didn’t hit me like the other 3 songs you named did


Honestly I think he should’ve put the Beanie Sigel song more in the middle I definitely don’t agree with starting your debut album with a flabby Beanie verse(only talking about the voice though he was kinda spitting)


Other than that I was throughly surprised with T.I.’s verse he came with some heat…and Babas



Babas is heat…Daringer byke and I can’t wait to hear TT4