Conway & The Alchemist - Lulu EP (Discussion Thread)

[W.I.Z.E.]

Let’s be real on this Daringer point, he’s a B maybe C list producer.

he ain’t as good as Alc, or Havoc which are squarely Griselda lane. When you broaden the lens and add Premolar, Pete Rock, still not even close. And we haven’t even touched in cats like Madlib, Diamond D, Large Pro, etc.


So it’s not Daringer hate, it’s a reality check. Conway and Benny starting to get Top Tier Emcee (Jay, Royce, Pusha, Em) nods so they deserve the same in the production lane.

 

[THE 101]

Beat on Gold BBS is FILTH

 

[Morose Polymath]

Daringer is not needed

Conway got shyt on deck thas even better.

Benny getting inspired to make even better shyt!

You nikkas just being extra now

Daringer is a great reason these nikkas got put on the map



He also responsible for the illest joint off Tana Talk 3

 

[Ty-Fife]

nikkas acting like these nikkas gon stop fukking with Daringer just because Alc did a project .

Daringer was literally there from the beginning and was Griselda before even Benny

 

[head shots101]

Daringer is dope as fukk and u can tell he was inspired by all the greats

 

[mr x]

nikkas acting like these nikkas gon stop fukking with Daringer just because Alc did a project .

Daringer was literally there from the beginning and was Griselda before even Benny

Talk to em!

 

[BK The Great]

Conway freestyle on Alchemist beats before

 

[Nero Christ]

LaFerrari I'm through walking

my compadres shoot carbons

bodies gon drop when they through sparking

now your mama gotta sell dentist just to get you a coffin

 

[Ty-Fife]

You nikkas just being extra now

Daringer is a great reason these nikkas got put on the map



He also responsible for the illest joint off Tana Talk 3

Let's not forget he produced arguably the best song on TPIM, too.

 

[Nero Christ]

Shoot Sideways

classic winter goon music right there

Q sounding Jamaican on it too

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Let's not forget he produced arguably the best song on TPIM, too.

fair point, because Sunday School was def the hardest joint on Plugs I Met.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Let’s be real on this Daringer point, he’s a B maybe C list producer.

he ain’t as good as Alc, or Havoc which are squarely Griselda lane. When you broaden the lens and add Premolar, Pete Rock, still not even close. And we haven’t even touched in cats like Madlib, Diamond D, Large Pro, etc.


So it’s not Daringer hate, it’s a reality check. Conway and Benny starting to get Top Tier Emcee (Jay, Royce, Pusha, Em) nods so they deserve the same in the production lane.

The bolded is a fair point. Though I'm no longer interested in a fully produced by Daringer project by Conway or Benny as of this point, I still think he brings something to the table. And he did produce probably the hardest track on Plugs I Met, and he's still improving.

He definitely ain't c-list breh. B is definitely fair, but C seems a bit harsh to me.

For better or worse he's a heavy part of their sound. There's also something to be said for loyalty. Daringer was a Griselda member before Benny was. That goes a long ways, and unless he was total trash, you should keep a guy like that in your circle.

 

[Harry B]

Let’s be real on this Daringer point, he’s a B maybe C list producer.

he ain’t as good as Alc, or Havoc which are squarely Griselda lane. When you broaden the lens and add Premolar, Pete Rock, still not even close. And we haven’t even touched in cats like Madlib, Diamond D, Large Pro, etc.


So it’s not Daringer hate, it’s a reality check. Conway and Benny starting to get Top Tier Emcee (Jay, Royce, Pusha, Em) nods so they deserve the same in the production lane.

You don't need the same producers to be in the same lane.

Then Jay-z would not use Kanye, Just Blaze and such dudes. Royce produced his own latest album. Em produced a lot of his own shyt as well and had those Bass Brothers who no one never heard of again. Having a unique and fresh sound >>>>

 

[Rell Lauren]

My dad said Cormega had no business being on the Sonny track. Should have put Benny on it. Stick to what works.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

My dad said Cormega had no business being on the Sonny track. Should have put Benny on it. Stick to what works.

pops has high standards