Conway Agrees With Lord Jamar: “The Hood Doesn’t Listen To Eminem”

[Greenhornet]

That Eminem verse ruined a Conway song and it's already forgotten. You guys make so many damn excuses for that dude. He has a major ego problem. He couldn't just rap on a Conway beat he made a Frankenstein like creation of a mess to fit a bad verse on top of someone else song. Just because you helping doesn't mean you can do anything you want. Like if this was any other rapper we can say yo, they ruined a song.

Forcing a really bad cee-lo hook on a slaughterhouse song made them look bad like some try hards. His exec producing skills are not good. People even panned his feature on Boogie album.

Imagine Jay and Nas giving bad features and input into acts they have. They would be destroyed. But Eminem nah we are bullies for talking about it

nikka you are his brand you signed to him, If I dont like driving I dont get a job with a trucking company

imagine me walking into my bosses office and they say something and I'm like "nah we dont fukk with you like that"

Whats the point of signing to a person you dont like? If its about the money and the push, then eminem being on your album proves my point
music is a business, people arent just signing flop artists out of love, you're there to further the label and make them money


I could go on and on, not to defend em, cause I dont care about him... but just out of principle


the point im trying to prove is, you are allowed to have an ego when you're running your own shyt
Ive never met an owner of some shyt that gives a fukk about entry level employees opinion


its a trap because did you sign to him for money or love? because you are saying you want neither



you're supposed to get the money while you can so you can build your own empire down the line
it makes no sense to sign to someone you dont like thats all on you at that point

 

[JustCKing]

He stated an objective fact about a demographic. No shame in that.

That's like saying that it was disrespectful when Ice T and Ras Kass were talking about how Ras' fanbase is all college students and convicts.

It's like saying Beyonce has no straight male audience.

What about it?

But none of this objective or factual though. It's a blanket statement and a generalization. There are a lot of Ras Kass fans that are neither college students or convicts. There are Beyonce fans that are straight males.

Thinking like that is dangerous because it is the same kind of thinking that forms stereotypes.

 

[Deltron]

people arent just signing flop artists out of love, you're there to further the label and make them money

Em more or less signed SH out of love.

 

[Sinister]

But none of this objective or factual though. It's a blanket statement and a generalization. There are a lot of Ras Kass fans that are neither college students or convicts. There are Beyonce fans that are straight males.

Thinking like that is dangerous because it is the same kind of thinking that forms stereotypes.

No pattern is absolute. There are exceptions.

 

[JustCKing]

Breh even my sister who only listened to shyt like Xscape, Changing faces and 702 and shyt bought Eminems album, dude was just like (a milder version) Beatles or MJ in terms of popularity. Where A lot of people fukked with him of hype, and of course others cause they were rap nerds. Up In smoke tour, Dr. Dre and Snoop, MTV 24/7, rap magazines minus the source, shyt even BET.

Then we had the rap nerds, we were on that freestyle, battles, rhyming and on, we all saw the movie, all his associations were black. Just like Bill Clinton he got that Dave Chapelle cac black trade.

Then he managed to extend that a bit by landing 50, but after that he was gone.

That's my take on it at least, perhaps I'm overestimating other places and circles.

This is my experience with his music in regard to people in my circle as well. People who were heavy into Too Short, Eightball & MJG, CMR, No Limit, Pac, Biggie, Bone, Kast all were into Em's music heavy.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Clearly Conway shouldve signed with ICP instead of slim anus

 

[JustCKing]

LOL @ Stat Quo being shelved because he made a joke that Em couldn't take. Hilarious. Stat Quo was shelved because he had no buzz. Dude had a song produced by Dre and some other singles that made no noise. He was from Atlanta during a time when ATL artists were blowing up left and right. He was on Shady/Aftermath and still had people in Atlanta who had no idea who a Stat Quo was. Bobby Creekwater and Al Gator had more buzz than Stat.

If Em is that thin skinned, I don't see how he survived Aftermath given Dre has made him rewrite songs and verses.

 

[Greenhornet]

Em more or less signed SH out of love.

halfway agree, everything is done for money... otherwise there wouldnt be a point of promotion and doing it

if it was about love, mad nikkas would be signed.

 

[Deltron]

LOL @ Stat Quo being shelved because he made a joke that Em couldn't take. Hilarious. Stat Quo was shelved because he had no buzz. Dude had a song produced by Dre and some other singles that made no noise. He was from Atlanta during a time when ATL artists were blowing up left and right. He was on Shady/Aftermath and still had people in Atlanta who had no idea who a Stat Quo was. Bobby Creekwater and Al Gator had more buzz than Stat.

If Em is that thin skinned, I don't see how he survived Aftermath given Dre has made him rewrite songs and verses.

prob. cause he respects Dre?

While you're probably right Stat was shelved for more than some Em shyt, it could very well have been a factor too.

shyt, em made an entire album shytting on critics of Revival, went at Joe, and Joe never formally even reviewed the album

 

[Greenhornet]

Hell the Sequel also further proves my point


Royce just ran with it and he's got a number 1 album now in 3 countries and 1 million albums sold

so like I said, did you sign with him for recognition or money? if neither than why did you even sign?

 

[banner34]

Lord jamar is a Eminem hater lol

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

My POV is skewed cause I’m from Detroit and we always listened to Marshall but I can agree nation wide

 

[JustCKing]

prob. cause he respects Dre?

While you're probably right Stat was shelved for more than some Em shyt, it could very well have been a factor too.

shyt, em made an entire album shytting on critics of Revival, went at Joe, and Joe never formally even reviewed the album

Eminem has always went after critics, but shelving an artist for making a joke is a whole other level.

And yeah, I read the article where Stat talks about Em writing a chorus for him and Stat said it wasn't a hit. Same article Stat blamed himself because he told someone who had all these hits that this song ("Dance On It") wasn't a hit. The song may have been wack, but Stat had no hits to be telling someone who had hit records that it wasn't. To this day, I detest "Got Some Teeth", but that song was a hit for Obie and homie put out a dope album that went platinum in spite of that song being wack.

 

[The Ruler 09]

And then Jamar gonna go and act like that Eminem corny ass bars didn't ruin that Conway song

That's not what he said, he was saying he did ruin it.

 

[Billy Ocean]

That's not what he said, he was saying he did ruin it.

I know now. I clarified myself already several times in the thread already.