Essential Conspiracy Thread

[Type Username Here]

Would you be upset with your seeds teacher if he/she told him it was ok for boys to kiss boys if your son was like , at that filth?

I've been honest around here on my thoughts on homosexuality. I don't find it visually appealing to see two men being affectionate. Also, while I think evidence shows that homosexual behavior is found in animals, and is something someone usually is born into, I don't think it's completely "natural" so to speak. I think it is a biological mutation of sorts, so if we are to be honest, we should clarify that it deviates from what "normal" is. For example, disabilities or something like vitiligo/albinosim, is certainly found in various animals, and occurs throughout human populations as well. I don't think anyone looks at a completely disabled child as "normal".

THAT BEING SAID

From a philosophical standpoint, I understand that my feelings on this matter is a mute point in the grand scheme of the social contract theory. Humans are born naturally free, and we set up governments to dictate limitations to our freedoms. So, I don't believe any government should have imminent domain on matters between consenting adults on matters of private relationships or sexual behavior. Once we as a society determine the age on which a person can make a legal decision (tricky part), then we should allow those individuals to do anything they wish in the privacy of their own home as long as all parties are able to consent to the event at hand. This includes drug use, sexual behavior, etc. Obviously it's not as black and white in implementation, especially when there are non-legal age parties present in the home.


But I ask you a question Mowgli, and hopefully you answer it honestly and not as a troll:

If certain religious groups wanted to ban all video games and films deemed impure, violent or sexual, how would you feel as an adult? I'm sure you wouldn't want your young child being exposed to such a thing, but what about yourself as an adult?

 

[cleanface coney]

@Type Username Here give me a reason why letting gays marry and have rights is a benefit to society in any way

besides the fact the they want rights, the same rights that other demographics have been fightin for ages

 

[daze23]

@Type Username Here give me a reason why letting gays marry and have rights is a benefit to society in any way

besides the fact the they want rights, the same rights that other demographics have been fightin for ages

how do you ask a question, and eliminate the obvious answer?

 

[Liu Kang]

WHY gay teens increased 900% since 1980: ILLUMINATI DRUGS agenda to advance PEDOPHILIA

DRUGS AGENDA - TYPOLOGY
ILLUMINATI DRUGS agenda has two main subtypes:
- hidden or not.

Not hidden
The not hidden agenda has two main subtypes:
- black is white - example: doping conspiracy agenda, pretending to fight drugs to market drugs.
- straight - examples: psychotropics agenda, ultimate example for children: RITALIN marketed by prime news packaged as "news"; doctors prescribing it to kids; water fluoridation agenda.
- mixed - example: marijuana agenda. The transition from mixed to the straight subtype is almost completed (1).

Hidden
The ultimate example of the drugs agenda of the hidden type is BPA.
It was the ultimate weapon to advance several agendas, including the pedophilia and gay agendas.
It is the main reason WHY the number of gay teens increased 900% and of lesbian teens 400% since 1980.

Notes
(1) Marijuana agenda - transition from mixed to the straight subtype. Example of the day:
Hawaii House Speaker Files Marijuana Legalization Bill | StoptheDrugWar.org

(2) Angelic google returns Last Prophet's words about the weapon of mass destruction BPA:
Google

Hum. I got time to lose so let's do some searching :
So I went to the sources which were supposedly here to back your point, I found this :
- Matt Marriot's post on Christian Forums
- LAST PROPHET's post on Lunatic Outpost
- TheTruthIsNeverTooHorrible's post on Forum Garden
- Kyoon_'s post on Something Awful
- LAST PROPHET's post on Godlike Productions
- TheTruthIsNeverTooHorrible's post on Scam
Same posting style, same theories, same you. There is also thie Bandarra SN you use for portuguese forums.

Doing this searching, I also stumbled upon this list of all your blogs under the Matt Marriott's name on BLOGGER. Those are sometimes blogs that you quote to back your theories in differents threads. You don't use the Matt Marriott name that much and when you quote to some of your blogs, it makes it appear as it was somebody else that wrote it.

And there is this typical way of writing, i'm not talking about your theories but the way you display them.


But let's talk about this very thread :

1. None of the "facts" you're presenting have legit sources :
- 900% of gay teens since 1980 ?
* I searched this figure associating with homosexuality and teenagers :
> The results shows your own posts on Lunatic Outpost and The-coli

- Illuminati drugs ?
* I didn't mind searching anything with "illuminati" written because it leads nowhere. But, what are those drugs ?
Are all drugs/pyschotropes/psychoactive substances Illuminati-made ?
Do you consider every chimical substances as Illuminati drugs ? Because you said BPA, ritalin, Marijuana, doping substances were all pushed by the Illuminati.

- That "black is white" agenda
* I searched that stuff on google
> Here are the result on the first page (didn't mind the other ones)
- NYC: Underwear model Seabra castrates Castro OR illuminati "black is white" - The Something Awful Forums
- Underwear model Seabra sentenced for castrating Castro * OR * "black is white" illuminati scripts at will using behind closed doors
- Pedophilia Agenda - how it was advanced
- LunaticOutPost
- Porn agenda: Dopamine, only chemical weapon the illuminati delivered on nuclear warhe - Christian Forums
Apart from being a typical conspiracy phrase, 5 outta 10 answers on the first page are from your own posts...

- Fighting doping to market drugs.
* Where are your evidence ?

- The ritalin stuff
* What's the problem ? where is your evidence ?

- The water fluoridation
* Again, what's the problem ? where is your evidence ?

- What's your problem on Marijuana and the Illuminati again ? I don't get why you throwing it here ?

At the end, I just mean, that all of your evidence... aren't.
Those are simply theories you throw as "facts" backed by your own posts/blogs : that's a never ending spiral where your posts are backed by your blogs and your blogs are backed by some of your posts. You make up your own sources, Where are your third party ones ?
Honestly, this can't definetely be an HL thread if we try to have a forum based on rigorous and documented claims.


2. Your "hidden agenda" is flawed.
- Drugs leading to a pedophilia agenda ? BPA being the main reason for homosexuality ?
* I searched that matter :
> There is no drug that leads to/push an agenda for pedophilia, that doesn't make sense.
> About your homosexuality claims, you surely talking about the BPA studies from Fredrick VOM SAAL and Cheryl ROSENFELD (full VOM SAAL study in .doc here (couldn't find the Rosenfeld one) :
http://endocrinedisruptors.missouri.edu/pdfarticles/Bisphenol_A_References.doc)

Here's an interview VOM SAAL explains his results :
LINK : Interviews - Fred Vom Saal | Fooling With Nature | FRONTLINE | PBS
Here's two articles about the ROSENFELD study (and the demasculinization) :
LINK : MU News Bureau | MU News Bureau
LINK : Bond LSC News - BPA Exposure In Utero Leads to Decreased Masculine Traits in Adult Male Deer Mice

There are few studies on the matter and those are only ones that conclude to the dangerosity of BPA exposition BUT that's not the problem considering the chemical industry involvement in some of the studies, it shouldn't be astonishing that many studies back BPA as safe (which I personnaly think is not).

What's interesting here is that none of those studies state that BPA induces homosexuality !
It does states that BPA males are less liked by females (by two to one) and that there is a demasculinization of male behaviours but that demasculinization is in their spatial navigational abilities. The change in this ability could lead to decreased reproductive fitness because with that type of mice, the ability to find female partners in the wild is important. That's why this is a "demasculinization" : because the change affects an apparent typical male trait.

My point here is simple : if you read the study (which I'm sure you did), you simply took a part of one of the multiple factors impaired or induced by BPA to serve your... agenda. According to the study BPA affects much more than just this "demasculinization" (which is a very marketable word IMO), it affects :
-the reproductive system growth in both females and males (low sperm count, abnormal urethra, early puberty in females)
-the metabolism (obesity, insuline resistance)
-the behaviour (abnormal socio-sexual behaviour, hyperactivity)
-and induces mammary and prostate hyperplasia leading to a cancer increase


3. You make it appear as a factual and documented thesis by presenting false sources :
- The first note is not related to the matter but at least it's not from you
- The second note is related to the matter but leads to your own theories


4. Using those 3 points, I strongly suggest Kyoon to be banned from HL.
Not because I don't agree with him or because he's a conspiracy theorist (I don't care honestly, a good debate can always come outta this, which is the point of HL ain't it ?) but because this user fabricates his theories quoting himself, non-related sources or partially quoting some to prove his point just to give to his threads the appearance of reliable matter.
This is not even theory, this is fantasy.

 

[Mowgli]

I've been honest around here on my thoughts on homosexuality. I don't find it visually appealing to see two men being affectionate. Also, while I think evidence shows that homosexual behavior is found in animals, and is something someone usually is born into, I don't think it's completely "natural" so to speak. I think it is a biological mutation of sorts, so if we are to be honest, we should clarify that it deviates from what "normal" is. For example, disabilities or something like vitiligo/albinosim, is certainly found in various animals, and occurs throughout human populations as well. I don't think anyone looks at a completely disabled child as "normal".

THAT BEING SAID

From a philosophical standpoint, I understand that my feelings on this matter is a mute point in the grand scheme of the social contract theory. Humans are born naturally free, and we set up governments to dictate limitations to our freedoms. So, I don't believe any government should have imminent domain on matters between consenting adults on matters of private relationships or sexual behavior. Once we as a society determine the age on which a person can make a legal decision (tricky part), then we should allow those individuals to do anything they wish in the privacy of their own home as long as all parties are able to consent to the event at hand. This includes drug use, sexual behavior, etc. Obviously it's not as black and white in implementation, especially when there are non-legal age parties present in the home.


But I ask you a question Mowgli, and hopefully you answer it honestly and not as a troll:

If certain religious groups wanted to ban all video games and films deemed impure, violent or sexual, how would you feel as an adult? I'm sure you wouldn't want your young child being exposed to such a thing, but what about yourself as an adult?

You didnt answer my question. If a teacher told your son who was expressing disgust at gay acts that it was ok, would you check the teacher or reinforce what the teacher said even though your gut tells you otherwise.

Well man ill be honest with you. Ive been fully indoctrinated into the demonic culture that makes violent entertainment enjoyable for me. If all of it was destroyed i cant say it would be worth fighting over but i would be very, VERY sad to see it go. I'd just do other things like learn a language, get into science, and hone my jiujitsu. In my youth i wasnt allowed to watch those kinds of programs anyway and spent a lot of time outside, playing. There is life outside of televisions, i remember these times so while id be upset to lose demonic entertainment, its probably for the best.

 

[cleanface coney]

cuz that seems to be the only answer

imo you cant compare the struggle of other demographics,groups to the gay struggle

@daze23

 

[Type Username Here]

@Type Username Here give me a reason why letting gays marry and have rights is a benefit to society in any way

besides the fact the they want rights, the same rights that other demographics have been fightin for ages

It doesn't matter to me if it benefits society or not. I personally believe that letting two people in love share a legal union, be able to visit each other in hospitals, make legal life and death decisions for one another, be able to add their lover on a health insurance plan, and other things of the sort benefits society because those people will work harder to contribute to a society that seems them as human beings.

But it shouldn't matter if it benefits society. An adult human being should have the capacity to make their own decisions in life, and a government should only limit those things if it provides a secular, well documented reason to limit those decisions.

How do violent films or video games benefit society? How do drugs benefit society? How does one night stands benefit society? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

[daze23]

cuz that seems to be the only answer

imo you cant compare the struggle of other demographics,groups to the gay struggle

@daze23

but why do you need another answer if you already got one?

 

[Brown_Pride]

how do you ask a question, and eliminate the obvious answer?

lol
Answer me this Daze23

Chocolate or vanilla, but you can't pick vanilla.

The issue isn't about normal or not normal it has been and always will be about equality of rights.

 

[daze23]

Chocolate or vanilla, but you can't pick vanilla.

are you trying to say that would be the obvious answer because I'm white?

'cism!

 

[Type Username Here]

You didnt answer my question. If a teacher told your son who was expressing disgust at gay acts that it was ok, would you check the teacher or reinforce what the teacher said even though your gut tells you otherwise.

I answered the question. I wouldn't like it. I'd get home and talk to my son, but I would teach him to be tolerant and loving to those who are born different.

I also wouldn't like my son watching Saving Private Ryan or Lisa Ann fit two dikks in her a$$hole in school. I wouldn't want my son listening to some inappropriate music at school. I wouldn't want my son watching two heterosexuals tongue wrestling either.

But It doesn't mean those things should be illegal for adults to engage in. Same with drugs. I'm for the legalization of drugs, but I now the scientific evidence is strong in the damages it does to growing children.

Well man ill be honest with you. Ive been fully indoctrinated into the demonic culture that makes violent entertainment enjoyable for me. If all of it was destroyed i cant say it would be worth fighting over but i would be very, VERY sad to see it go. I'd just do other things like learn a language, get into science, and hone my jiujitsu. In my youth i wasnt allowed to watch those kinds of programs anyway and spent a lot of time outside, playing. There is life outside of televisions, i remember these times so while id be upset to lose demonic entertainment, its probably for the best.

You said the right thing: In your youth. No one is stopping you now from not engaging in video games, pornography, etc.. You made that decision as an adult.

 

[Brown_Pride]

are you trying to say that would be the obvious answer because I'm white?

'cism!

while still 'cism i said it because i thought you were black and it was the obvious answer

 

[cleanface coney]

It doesn't matter to me if it benefits society or not. I personally believe that letting two people in love share a legal union, be able to visit each other in hospitals, make legal life and death decisions for one another, be able to add their lover on a health insurance plan, and other things of the sort benefits society because those people will work harder to contribute to a society that seems them as human beings.

But it shouldn't matter if it benefits society. An adult human being should have the capacity to make their own decisions in life, and a government should only limit those things if it provides a secular, well documented reason to limit those decisions.

How do violent films or video games benefit society? How do drugs benefit society? How does one night stands benefit society? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

so the way in which they are passing laws and pushin this agenda doesnt bother you

its too blantant imo not to be an agenda

and you right video games and drugs might not benefit society but at the same time they arent being pushed on us

we make conscious decisons to play video games and do drugs

if your child goes to school and has a gay man/woman preachin or teaching to them about gay rights( using an extreme example)

would you consider that to be a conscious decision that your child has made to be around that?

imo the gay agenda blurs the lines too much and can easily be considered an civil rights issue when imo its just someones preference to be attracted to the same sex

thats my biggest problem

 

[cleanface coney]

but why do you need another answer if you already got one?

for something to be so blatant and agenda driven they dont have too many reasons for it to be as accepted as it is

people who arent even gay are fightin for these people but will turn around and completely ignore real social/civil rights issues goin on

 

[daze23]

for something to be so blatant and agenda driven they dont have too many reasons for it to be as accepted as it is

people who arent even gay are fightin for these people but will turn around and completely ignore real social/civil rights issues goin on

but why do they need a reason outside of equal rights?

if people aren't consistent, or pick and choose their battles, that's besides the point